The founders of pirate bay have started a new "legal" file sharing service much like rapidshare. It allows users to anonymously upload files and share them with a group of people. If the copyright holders contact Bayfiles about a copy write infringement they will take the file down, but it can be re-hosted under a different name. If the file is compressed or encrypted it makes it much harder for copyright holders to identify the file.
This system is legal as long as it doesn't encourage or promote copyright infringement, and because the users are anonymous it is harder to catch the up-loaders and people sharing the files.
What do you guys think? Will this become as popular as torrents now that they are coming under fire?
No time restrictions. Without premium you can only download one file an hour. With premium, there's no limit.
Sorry. But I'll stick to Mediafire.
Pretty much this. I couldn't care less that its the same owners as TPB. The 250MB file size is nice to be sure, but if it's gonna impose download restrictions and make me enter captchas, I'm gonna stay with mediafire and megaupload.
i don't know how mediafire does it, they're the only site that allows download managers and no wait time on downloads @_@
as for bayfiles... i don't think it matters if it's the same owners as TPB, there's nothing special about this site that differentiates it from the other DDl sites
On September 01 2011 20:22 Nefariously wrote: as for bayfiles... i don't think it matters if it's the same owners as TPB, there's nothing special about this site that differentiates it from the other DDl sites
Are you sure mediafire doesn't track who uploads what? I don't know how mediafire works, but that's the main perk of this site, anonymity. Besides I trust the owners of TBP a hell of allot more then mediafire's, who i've never even heard about.
No time restrictions. Without premium you can only download one file an hour. With premium, there's no limit.
Sorry. But I'll stick to Mediafire.
Mediafire has been blocked in China for a long time now. You guys are so lucky T_T
In fact by now, pretty much all file sharing sites have been blocked here. Rapidshare, Megaupload, Mediafire, Fileserve, Filesonic, and Hotfile are all down.
On September 01 2011 21:57 writer22816 wrote: Mediafire has been blocked in China for a long time now. You guys are so lucky T_T
In fact by now, pretty much all file sharing sites have been blocked here. Rapidshare, Megaupload, Mediafire, Fileserve, Filesonic, and Hotfile are all down.
Tryin' to preserve the livelihood of those guys selling infringed material eh?
this isn't going to be anymore legal then torrent or any file hosting website, people will just use msg boards to link illegal downloads on passworded ziped files. In fact the part that encourages anonymity encourages illegal activity t-t
im in canada, this is me not giving a fuck about illigally downloading shit. it sounds like it will just be about playing hide-n-seek, a lot will get taken down quickly
On September 02 2011 02:23 semantics wrote: this isn't going to be anymore legal then torrent or any file hosting website, people will just use msg boards to link illegal downloads on passworded ziped files. In fact the part that encourages anonymity encourages illegal activity t-t
it is legal, as long as they comply to take-down notices, which they do.
Don't compare to torrents, torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download, unlike a DDL site.
I'll stick with Megaupload for now. Maybe if this get's more popular and all that, i might check the premium out. But there is already so many services out there, so we will see.
Of course I will start using it if it becomes awesome! Don't some colleges have some sort of thing like this too? Students all over can share files which is really nice but for now I'm sticking with media, mega, and all the other wonderful ones.
On September 02 2011 02:23 semantics wrote: this isn't going to be anymore legal then torrent or any file hosting website, people will just use msg boards to link illegal downloads on passworded ziped files. In fact the part that encourages anonymity encourages illegal activity t-t
it is legal, as long as they comply to take-down notices, which they do.
Don't compare to torrents, torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download, unlike a DDL site.
Torrenting Linux ( Free Distributable ) ??? it's not legal in anyway...
Just because something is a torrent does not make it illegal...
Benefits of a torrent... corrupt hashes---> redownloaded hashes/automatically fixes it...
Direct download sites... corrupt hashes---> you might as well redownload the whole file...
On September 02 2011 02:23 semantics wrote: this isn't going to be anymore legal then torrent or any file hosting website, people will just use msg boards to link illegal downloads on passworded ziped files. In fact the part that encourages anonymity encourages illegal activity t-t
it is legal, as long as they comply to take-down notices, which they do.
Don't compare to torrents, torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download, unlike a DDL site.
Torrenting Linux ( Free Distributable ) ??? it's not legal in anyway...
Just because something is a torrent does not make it illegal...
Benefits of a torrent... corrupt hashes---> redownloaded hashes/automatically fixes it...
Direct download sites... corrupt hashes---> you might as well redownload the whole file...
Torrenting Linux is very legal. what are you on about.
Way to miss the point, it is not about corrupt hashes, but whether or not you upload copyrighted material.
On September 02 2011 02:23 semantics wrote: this isn't going to be anymore legal then torrent or any file hosting website, people will just use msg boards to link illegal downloads on passworded ziped files. In fact the part that encourages anonymity encourages illegal activity t-t
it is legal, as long as they comply to take-down notices, which they do.
Don't compare to torrents, torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download, unlike a DDL site.
Torrenting Linux ( Free Distributable ) ??? it's not legal in anyway...
Just because something is a torrent does not make it illegal...
Benefits of a torrent... corrupt hashes---> redownloaded hashes/automatically fixes it...
Direct download sites... corrupt hashes---> you might as well redownload the whole file...
Torrenting Linux is very legal. what are you on about.
Way to miss the point, it is not about corrupt hashes, but whether or not you upload copyrighted material.
He was being sarcastic about this remark "torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download". Basically what you said there implies all torrents are illegal, and he was sarcastically saying that linux torrents are illegal.
And to the OP, I don't think it'll make much of a difference really. Torrents work so well for most people as it is that I don't see this working out so well. I mean I guess it would be handy for a few instances but all in all I still think torrents are better
No time restrictions. Without premium you can only download one file an hour. With premium, there's no limit.
Sorry. But I'll stick to Mediafire.
Mediafire has been blocked in China for a long time now. You guys are so lucky T_T
In fact by now, pretty much all file sharing sites have been blocked here. Rapidshare, Megaupload, Mediafire, Fileserve, Filesonic, and Hotfile are all down.
No time restrictions. Without premium you can only download one file an hour. With premium, there's no limit.
Sorry. But I'll stick to Mediafire.
Mediafire has been blocked in China for a long time now. You guys are so lucky T_T
In fact by now, pretty much all file sharing sites have been blocked here. Rapidshare, Megaupload, Mediafire, Fileserve, Filesonic, and Hotfile are all down.
Can you access TPB?
There's sites like verycd and 115 that are available for the ones in china... they don't work like mediafire though ( verycd uses emule )
On September 02 2011 02:23 semantics wrote: this isn't going to be anymore legal then torrent or any file hosting website, people will just use msg boards to link illegal downloads on passworded ziped files. In fact the part that encourages anonymity encourages illegal activity t-t
it is legal, as long as they comply to take-down notices, which they do.
Don't compare to torrents, torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download, unlike a DDL site.
Torrenting Linux ( Free Distributable ) ??? it's not legal in anyway...
Just because something is a torrent does not make it illegal...
Benefits of a torrent... corrupt hashes---> redownloaded hashes/automatically fixes it...
Direct download sites... corrupt hashes---> you might as well redownload the whole file...
Torrenting Linux is very legal. what are you on about.
Way to miss the point, it is not about corrupt hashes, but whether or not you upload copyrighted material.
He was being sarcastic about this remark "torrents are illegal because you upload data while you download". Basically what you said there implies all torrents are illegal, and he was sarcastically saying that linux torrents are illegal.
And to the OP, I don't think it'll make much of a difference really. Torrents work so well for most people as it is that I don't see this working out so well. I mean I guess it would be handy for a few instances but all in all I still think torrents are better
originally meant to say "it's not illegal in any way" in my head, but my fingers didn't seem to have typed those out... and he already posted before I could edit it anyways... I guess either way works though
On September 01 2011 20:22 Nefariously wrote: i don't know how mediafire does it, they're the only site that allows download managers and no wait time on downloads @_@
For awhile they were fighting JDownloader tooth and nail, changing stuff every few days to break JDownloader's hoster plug-in. I think they gave up, since it was too much effort.
I thought mediafire was already the new piratebay? Well at least file hosting servers in general. Oh copyright claim from "X" company. Okay I'll take it down. I'm not going to stop people from uploading the same exact thing 5 seconds later. I really wonder how mediafire is up able to keep doing this stuff.
I see people already shitting on this service, but personally I like having more alternatives, and especially one where the goal is to offer ANONYMITY...
You know, that 9letters word used to mean something on the internet.......... -_-
If I recall correctly the only thing illegal about file sharing is uploading copyrighted content that is able to be downloaded by others for free. Correct me if I'm wrong but downloading torrents isn't illegal, at least in Canada.
Also, this new site is not comparable to the pirate bay at all. On most (all?) torrent search engines you can download as much and whatever you want for free and don't have to make any kind of account if you don't want to (Except Demonoid, maybe a few others, but the account itself is free). The point of torrents is that they are completely free, this site is not completely free.
Also, the site isn't completely anonymous unless you use an anti-tracking program like Ghostery (google it), as every single site you go to is tracked by Google Analytics, Facebook or other similar things, and I'm pretty sure your ISP can find out anything you've been doing as well no matter what.
On September 03 2011 02:07 Geovu wrote: If I recall correctly the only thing illegal about file sharing is uploading copyrighted content that is able to be downloaded by others for free. Correct me if I'm wrong but downloading torrents isn't illegal, at least in Canada.
Also, this new site is not comparable to the pirate bay at all. On most (all?) torrent search engines you can download as much and whatever you want for free and don't have to make any kind of account if you don't want to (Except Demonoid, maybe a few others, but the account itself is free). The point of torrents is that they are completely free, this site is not completely free.
Also, the site isn't completely anonymous unless you use an anti-tracking program like Ghostery (google it), as every single site you go to is tracked by Google Analytics, Facebook or other similar things, and I'm pretty sure your ISP can find out anything you've been doing as well no matter what.
fairly sure you're wrong i am aware that there is some sort of deal dealing with canadan music being downloaded w.e that means ionno, but i don't think that canadians only dl canadian made music or dont dl games or movies.
All sites aren't anonymous at best this site is hosted in some state that would allow it not to keep track of any of it's users but sense you can register as a user they are keeping track of you and thus can be subjected to subpoena if court cases are bought against it just like any file hosting site.
Problem with torrents is that by the fundamental design they openly link your IP and content you download or share. A DDL site can operate without any sort of logging making it almost impossbile to track a link between uploaded file and the uploader. They don't eliminate the possibility of organizations like RIAA or government agencies to violate your privacy completely, but make their work significantly harder. (And getting access to information about what kind of message and where was sent is damn hard violation of privacy and should be much more serious crime than file sharing in my opinion, but that's another story)
On September 02 2011 23:51 lurked wrote: I see people already shitting on this service, but personally I like having more alternatives, and especially one where the goal is to offer ANONYMITY...
You know, that 9letters word used to mean something on the internet.......... -_-
"Which data does Bayfiles store about the files I upload?
With every upload the following data is stored in addition to the actual file:
SHA1 checksum of the uploaded file IP address of the computer from which the upload is started time of the upload to which account the file is supposed to be attached."
I don't understand the draw to these types of services. Big files always have multiple parts, which means you need to download multiple things, but sites like megaupload and whatnot only let you download 1 file at a time Unless people have found a way around that O_o
On September 02 2011 10:27 forcestealer wrote: This seems like it would be incredibly easy to spread a virus...
Because its impossible to get viruses from torrents, right? -_-
On September 03 2011 03:35 Mohdoo wrote: I don't understand the draw to these types of services. Big files always have multiple parts, which means you need to download multiple things, but sites like megaupload and whatnot only let you download 1 file at a time Unless people have found a way around that O_o
The advantage of DDL is that it isn't a torrent. First, its a little more difficult for companies to trace your IP compared to torrents (do note that more difficult does not mean impossible). Second, torrents can sometimes be poorly seeded, if they are seeded at all. This is a particularly big problem with old or unpopular torrents. Contrast that with DDL, which offers the advantage of a relatively constant download speed.
As for dealing with multiple files, well, that's what download managers are for.
On September 02 2011 23:51 lurked wrote: I see people already shitting on this service, but personally I like having more alternatives, and especially one where the goal is to offer ANONYMITY...
You know, that 9letters word used to mean something on the internet.......... -_-
They are shitting on it because it's nothing new.
You have services like Rapidshare, Netload, Megaupload, Wupload, fileserve, filesonic, x7, ul, and so forth since ages. Rapidshare is up since 2004, with a revenue of 5 million euro per month and is ranked in the top 100 in traffic rank (most of the time).
On September 02 2011 23:51 lurked wrote: I see people already shitting on this service, but personally I like having more alternatives, and especially one where the goal is to offer ANONYMITY...
You know, that 9letters word used to mean something on the internet.......... -_-
They are shitting on it because it's nothing new.
You have services like Rapidshare, Netload, Megaupload, Wupload, fileserve, filesonic, x7, ul, and so forth since ages. Rapidshare is up since 2004, with a revenue of 5 million euro per month and is ranked in the top 100 in traffic rank (most of the time).
Torrent is dead.
Torrent is far from dead.
You just have to find a seperate tracker for a seperate type and you are good to go.
Torrents are free with 0 limits, not really dead. The very fact that Rapidshare has a revenue proves my point - they're charging money to do anything worthwhile.
Also, Torrents have no central business/owner, so forming a lawsuit based on them is harder, where as hosting websites will get notices all the time of Copyright infringement.
On September 03 2011 04:56 Kurr wrote: IRC was and still is the best place to download things. It takes a little bit to get used to but it's much safer than anything else.
Second would be finding a warez site uploading RS,MU, etc links.
Torrenting has already declined a bit because of legal issues, it's become dangerous to tempt your chance with them for no reason.
There is not tempting chances with torrents. You risk a way higher chance of being involved ina car crash when ever you drive.
On September 02 2011 23:51 lurked wrote: I see people already shitting on this service, but personally I like having more alternatives, and especially one where the goal is to offer ANONYMITY...
You know, that 9letters word used to mean something on the internet.......... -_-
It still does mean something, although said meaning is very much convoluted with trolls, annoying internet memes, and excessive gore.
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