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Dzemoo
Profile Joined January 2012
48 Posts
February 11 2012 18:14 GMT
#8481
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 11 2012 18:17 GMT
#8482
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 11 2012 18:17 GMT
#8483
On February 12 2012 03:04 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:54 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 11 2012 20:13 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 11 2012 15:11 Yongwang wrote:
On February 11 2012 12:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 11 2012 08:48 Njbrownie wrote:
Idk why noone has the slightest interest in any republican candidate that isn't one of the "big frontrunners" that everyone constantly has something bad to say about each and every one when you can change the result of an election by simply voting for somone else... it's insane how many people dodge that idea.

For those thinking Ron Paul is the greatest thing since sliced bread, your wrong. His stand on foriegn policy is outright dangerous. I will be voting for Santorum and proudly so. He will work for the people the most. Hell the man went door to door in a pick-up truck trying to get votes in iowa's caucus. Although I don't see eye to eye with him on his views of the gay community; I do like his commitment to the people of this great nation. He upholds the values that I see fit for a presidential figure and I believe he's very capable of productivity in the white house. He's already successfully gone up against big business interests as a senator. He'll get my vote.

For those who may want more information about him here's a link to his accomplishments / credentials
http://www.ricksantorum.com/why-rick


Lol...Santorum is a joke, not only with his policy on gay rights, but also of abortion and many other hypocritical stances. (i.e tort reform)

Yeah he is really a joke, not only his policy on gays and abortion though. He has state that he opposes the right to privacy and here are his views on libertarianism:


I wouldn't trust the libertarians either if I were American.

Let the states decide? Ha! I think the American Civil War started because the president at the time was a compromiser and let Kansas choose if it wanted slavery or not... then all sorts of crazy stuff happened.


No the civil war started because a free-soil president won the election of 1860 and slave states in the south saw this as the end of their 'right' to property so they made the argument that a state could secede if the national government didn't protect their rights. Lincoln argued that states couldn't secede because it took the people along with it, and this is a government of the people and not the states. The issue was solved over war. North won. States can't secede.

This. But history is written by the victors.

It's not like they killed such a large amount of southerners in the Civil War that their side was never told...
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 11 2012 18:18 GMT
#8484
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.

Obama's healthcare plan is a threat? lol
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 18:25:15
February 11 2012 18:19 GMT
#8485
On February 12 2012 03:17 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:04 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:54 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 11 2012 20:13 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 11 2012 15:11 Yongwang wrote:
On February 11 2012 12:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 11 2012 08:48 Njbrownie wrote:
Idk why noone has the slightest interest in any republican candidate that isn't one of the "big frontrunners" that everyone constantly has something bad to say about each and every one when you can change the result of an election by simply voting for somone else... it's insane how many people dodge that idea.

For those thinking Ron Paul is the greatest thing since sliced bread, your wrong. His stand on foriegn policy is outright dangerous. I will be voting for Santorum and proudly so. He will work for the people the most. Hell the man went door to door in a pick-up truck trying to get votes in iowa's caucus. Although I don't see eye to eye with him on his views of the gay community; I do like his commitment to the people of this great nation. He upholds the values that I see fit for a presidential figure and I believe he's very capable of productivity in the white house. He's already successfully gone up against big business interests as a senator. He'll get my vote.

For those who may want more information about him here's a link to his accomplishments / credentials
http://www.ricksantorum.com/why-rick


Lol...Santorum is a joke, not only with his policy on gay rights, but also of abortion and many other hypocritical stances. (i.e tort reform)

Yeah he is really a joke, not only his policy on gays and abortion though. He has state that he opposes the right to privacy and here are his views on libertarianism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQnoVpkyqc


I wouldn't trust the libertarians either if I were American.

Let the states decide? Ha! I think the American Civil War started because the president at the time was a compromiser and let Kansas choose if it wanted slavery or not... then all sorts of crazy stuff happened.


No the civil war started because a free-soil president won the election of 1860 and slave states in the south saw this as the end of their 'right' to property so they made the argument that a state could secede if the national government didn't protect their rights. Lincoln argued that states couldn't secede because it took the people along with it, and this is a government of the people and not the states. The issue was solved over war. North won. States can't secede.

This. But history is written by the victors.

It's not like they killed such a large amount of southerners in the Civil War that their side was never told...

Their side isn't really being told. Teachers MIGHT mention something briefly along the lines of "some people think the war was over states' rights," but then wouldn't elaborate much more than that. Then they'd go on talking for a week about how it was about slavery.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 11 2012 18:20 GMT
#8486
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Saying Obama and Romney are the same person is like saying LoL and DOTA 2 are the same game, or that beer and wine are the same drink.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
February 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#8487
On February 12 2012 03:19 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:17 aksfjh wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:04 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:54 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 11 2012 20:13 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 11 2012 15:11 Yongwang wrote:
On February 11 2012 12:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 11 2012 08:48 Njbrownie wrote:
Idk why noone has the slightest interest in any republican candidate that isn't one of the "big frontrunners" that everyone constantly has something bad to say about each and every one when you can change the result of an election by simply voting for somone else... it's insane how many people dodge that idea.

For those thinking Ron Paul is the greatest thing since sliced bread, your wrong. His stand on foriegn policy is outright dangerous. I will be voting for Santorum and proudly so. He will work for the people the most. Hell the man went door to door in a pick-up truck trying to get votes in iowa's caucus. Although I don't see eye to eye with him on his views of the gay community; I do like his commitment to the people of this great nation. He upholds the values that I see fit for a presidential figure and I believe he's very capable of productivity in the white house. He's already successfully gone up against big business interests as a senator. He'll get my vote.

For those who may want more information about him here's a link to his accomplishments / credentials
http://www.ricksantorum.com/why-rick


Lol...Santorum is a joke, not only with his policy on gay rights, but also of abortion and many other hypocritical stances. (i.e tort reform)

Yeah he is really a joke, not only his policy on gays and abortion though. He has state that he opposes the right to privacy and here are his views on libertarianism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQnoVpkyqc


I wouldn't trust the libertarians either if I were American.

Let the states decide? Ha! I think the American Civil War started because the president at the time was a compromiser and let Kansas choose if it wanted slavery or not... then all sorts of crazy stuff happened.


No the civil war started because a free-soil president won the election of 1860 and slave states in the south saw this as the end of their 'right' to property so they made the argument that a state could secede if the national government didn't protect their rights. Lincoln argued that states couldn't secede because it took the people along with it, and this is a government of the people and not the states. The issue was solved over war. North won. States can't secede.

This. But history is written by the victors.

It's not like they killed such a large amount of southerners in the Civil War that their side was never told...

There side isn't really being told. Teachers MIGHT mention something briefly along the lines of "some people think the war was over states' rights," but then wouldn't elaborate much more than that. Then they'd go on talking for a week about how it was about slavery.

That says more about schools and teachers than it does about historians.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#8488
On February 12 2012 03:20 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Saying Obama and Romney are the same person is like saying LoL and DOTA 2 are the same game, or that beer and wine are the same drink.

It's quite obvious that Romney is nothing more than a RINO. Anyone who votes for him expecting a revival of America is instead going to get second term Obama. Romney created the blueprint for Obamacare, he isn't going to repeal it, despite what he says. I wouldn't buy into his vague plans for spending-cuts that he keeps mentioning, but neglects to mention what he is going to cut exactly.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 18:26:20
February 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#8489
On February 12 2012 03:24 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:20 aksfjh wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Saying Obama and Romney are the same person is like saying LoL and DOTA 2 are the same game, or that beer and wine are the same drink.

It's quite obvious that Romney is nothing more than a RINO. Anyone who votes for him expecting a revival of America is instead going to get second term Obama. Romney created the blueprint for Obamacare, he isn't going to repeal it, despite what he says. I wouldn't buy into his vague plans for spending-cuts that he keeps mentioning, but neglects to mention what he is going to cut exactly.


You do realize that politicians normally attempt to do what they promise.
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 11 2012 18:35 GMT
#8490
On February 12 2012 03:18 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.

Obama's healthcare plan is a threat? lol

Once you nationalize healthcare, it gives the government complete control over every aspect of your life. People doing things that the government feels is unhealthy? Intervene in their personal life and take away their right make their own decisions in the name of "lowering the government healthcare burden." Not to mention it's been proven that welfare makes people lazy and dependent on the government. Then you have to look at the economic aspect, we're in a massive recession right now, and Obama thinks that having the federal government pay for the health costs of over 300 million people is somehow going to rejuvenate the economy?
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 11 2012 19:00 GMT
#8491
On February 12 2012 03:35 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:18 Roe wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.

Obama's healthcare plan is a threat? lol

Once you nationalize healthcare, it gives the government complete control over every aspect of your life. People doing things that the government feels is unhealthy? Intervene in their personal life and take away their right make their own decisions in the name of "lowering the government healthcare burden." Not to mention it's been proven that welfare makes people lazy and dependent on the government. Then you have to look at the economic aspect, we're in a massive recession right now, and Obama thinks that having the federal government pay for the health costs of over 300 million people is somehow going to rejuvenate the economy?

Oh dear....
yeah, living in canada the government has complete control over every aspect of my life. LOL
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
February 11 2012 19:00 GMT
#8492
On February 12 2012 03:35 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:18 Roe wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.

Obama's healthcare plan is a threat? lol

Once you nationalize healthcare, it gives the government complete control over every aspect of your life. People doing things that the government feels is unhealthy? Intervene in their personal life and take away their right make their own decisions in the name of "lowering the government healthcare burden." Not to mention it's been proven that welfare makes people lazy and dependent on the government. Then you have to look at the economic aspect, we're in a massive recession right now, and Obama thinks that having the federal government pay for the health costs of over 300 million people is somehow going to rejuvenate the economy?

I am canadian, we have universal healthcare, and I don't feel like government has complete control over every aspect of my life. That is just silly.

The concept of "freedom" became so twisted over the years to fit with the libertarian views. It has been proven that welfare makes people lazy ? Yeah right, Canada employment rate is higher than in the USA, and we have more welfare. Canada wasn't hit as hard as you guys were during this recession. Maybe you just don't know what you are talking about.

Seriously I hope Santorum win the republican nomination, such a cool dude. Can't wait to see him debate Obama... Oh yeah !
quote unquote
Dzemoo
Profile Joined January 2012
48 Posts
February 11 2012 19:01 GMT
#8493
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.


dude staying out of other countries problems is the best thing America can do. Just imagine having peace with Iran instead of escalating violence.
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
February 11 2012 19:03 GMT
#8494
On February 12 2012 03:25 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:24 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:20 aksfjh wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Saying Obama and Romney are the same person is like saying LoL and DOTA 2 are the same game, or that beer and wine are the same drink.

It's quite obvious that Romney is nothing more than a RINO. Anyone who votes for him expecting a revival of America is instead going to get second term Obama. Romney created the blueprint for Obamacare, he isn't going to repeal it, despite what he says. I wouldn't buy into his vague plans for spending-cuts that he keeps mentioning, but neglects to mention what he is going to cut exactly.


You do realize that politicians normally attempt to do what they promise.


"Do or do not, there is no try."
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 11 2012 19:07 GMT
#8495
On February 12 2012 04:01 Dzemoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.


dude staying out of other countries problems is the best thing America can do. Just imagine having peace with Iran instead of escalating violence.

just imagine Iran expanding into afghanistan/pakistan/iraq and getting a nuke. all the while the "shining beacon" of democracy and human rights sits by and lets fundamentalism and regression take over.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
February 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#8496
On February 12 2012 04:03 Dapper_Cad wrote:
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On February 12 2012 03:25 aksfjh wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:24 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:20 aksfjh wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Saying Obama and Romney are the same person is like saying LoL and DOTA 2 are the same game, or that beer and wine are the same drink.

It's quite obvious that Romney is nothing more than a RINO. Anyone who votes for him expecting a revival of America is instead going to get second term Obama. Romney created the blueprint for Obamacare, he isn't going to repeal it, despite what he says. I wouldn't buy into his vague plans for spending-cuts that he keeps mentioning, but neglects to mention what he is going to cut exactly.


You do realize that politicians normally attempt to do what they promise.


"Do or do not, there is no try."

Now that is a problematic attitude in a negotiation. If the parties agree all is fine and dandy. If parties disagree the do or do not's will just have to sabotage any compromise since it is either or.
Repeat before me
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#8497
On February 12 2012 04:01 Dzemoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.


dude staying out of other countries problems is the best thing America can do. Just imagine having peace with Iran instead of escalating violence.

Or you know the US and/or our allies get nuked. But let's just ignore the consequences of ignoring threats and pretend that if we adopted a non-interventionist foreign policy that nobody would ever attack us. Tell me, did Poland have an interventionist foreign policy in 1939? What about Finland?
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 19:19:34
February 11 2012 19:18 GMT
#8498
On February 12 2012 03:35 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:18 Roe wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.

Obama's healthcare plan is a threat? lol

Once you nationalize healthcare, it gives the government complete control over every aspect of your life. People doing things that the government feels is unhealthy? Intervene in their personal life and take away their right make their own decisions in the name of "lowering the government healthcare burden." Not to mention it's been proven that welfare makes people lazy and dependent on the government. Then you have to look at the economic aspect, we're in a massive recession right now, and Obama thinks that having the federal government pay for the health costs of over 300 million people is somehow going to rejuvenate the economy?


Don't you think those 60 million, if they were healthy, would fuel the economy?
Obama is doing the right thing, healthcare is something the US had been behind in for decades.

And please state your sources on the welfare making people lazy.

I'd rather pay to help some worker get scanned for possible illness than to bail out a bank or invade a country unjustly.
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
February 11 2012 19:19 GMT
#8499
On February 12 2012 04:09 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 04:01 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.


dude staying out of other countries problems is the best thing America can do. Just imagine having peace with Iran instead of escalating violence.

Or you know the US and/or our allies get nuked. But let's just ignore the consequences of ignoring threats and pretend that if we adopted a non-interventionist foreign policy that nobody would ever attack us. Tell me, did Poland have an interventionist foreign policy in 1939? What about Finland?


Both warmongering and isolationism is completely out there in the land of Utopia. You need a balance and you need to understand that USA is not the only country in the world. Europe is almost at the same military capabilities if you disregard the political differences. It is not always USA having to make the decisions of war and peace for anyone else for who are you to judge? FN is a dead end for almost any kind of interventions anywhere, but there are other possibilities for finding military alliances beginning to show and it would be wise to make those alliances grow and you do not do that by ignoring the rest!
Repeat before me
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 11 2012 19:24 GMT
#8500
On February 12 2012 03:35 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:18 Roe wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:17 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:14 Dzemoo wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:52 Yongwang wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:48 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
On February 12 2012 02:46 Kickboxer wrote:
I have an uncanny feeling Paul wins this nomination & election and improves the USA by several orders of magnitude (and maybe gets shot in the process). Posting this for future bragging rights!


He's not. As much as I would love him to, it's not going to happen. Stop relying on one man to change the country, only the people can do that.

I agree. Really a lot of Ron Paul's policies are horrible, especially considering he is an isolationist. Really the only reason Ron Paul has a cult following is because he's one of the few honest politicians and he'll say it as it is. That being said, he's probably the best choice out of the two major parties, and he's obviously a trillion times better than Obama/Romney (who are pretty much the same person)

Dude, really? Ron Paul an isolationist? The only policy that is "horrible" is his policy on health care. Everything else is spot on.

You're joking right? He doesn't seem to have any grasp on how foreign relations work and his foreign policy is quite possibly a bigger threat than Obamacare.

Obama's healthcare plan is a threat? lol

Once you nationalize healthcare, it gives the government complete control over every aspect of your life. People doing things that the government feels is unhealthy? Intervene in their personal life and take away their right make their own decisions in the name of "lowering the government healthcare burden." Not to mention it's been proven that welfare makes people lazy and dependent on the government. Then you have to look at the economic aspect, we're in a massive recession right now, and Obama thinks that having the federal government pay for the health costs of over 300 million people is somehow going to rejuvenate the economy?


Your posts lack any form of intelligence. I can't believe you actually believe the Republican formed myth about "Obamacare" and how it's going to somehow end up like 1984. Take of your tin foil hat, and realize that other countries with socialized medicine/healthcare are doing well, if not better than the US in many aspects of everyday life. Your WWII comparisons also lack validity because of the huge differences between nazi germany/poland finland and current day society.
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