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BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
November 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#3001
@ Maenander
Gold cannot be manipulated such as paper money so, the prices stays steady and keep going up.

Guess how much Gold was in 1970's? 38 dollars an ounce. How much is gold today an ounce? like $1,800 an ounce.

Here is a chart of the history of Gold which shows how steady it has been these past 40 years:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-historical-price-of-gold.htm

Do you want to know the real reason we invaded Libya?

synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 21 2011 21:38 GMT
#3002
My phone (CNN app) tells me that Gingrich is leading the polls... haven't heard much about this guy tbh o_o
:)
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
November 21 2011 21:51 GMT
#3003
Well bob, you also have to remember that as long as gold is being valued according to dollars, we must take into account the inflation that the dollar has undergone to create such a high price of gold. But I guess you could use that as an argument in favor of gold over fiat currency as well.

There's an important lesson in that. During times of great inflation, there are two primary groups who benefit:

1) Those who hold debt.

2) Those who hold tangible assets.

The people who hold cash are having their wealth indirectly transferred to these other two groups. Inflation is really an indirect form of taxation, but people never really see it that way.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 21 2011 23:10 GMT
#3004
On November 22 2011 06:24 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote:
@ Maenander
Gold cannot be manipulated such as paper money so, the prices stays steady and keep going up.

Guess how much Gold was in 1970's? 38 dollars an ounce. How much is gold today an ounce? like $1,800 an ounce.

Here is a chart of the history of Gold which shows how steady it has been these past 40 years:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-historical-price-of-gold.htm

Do you want to know the real reason we invaded Libya?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O35_Ai6EsMU



Can we not derail this thread with conspiracies and shit? Save that for reddit or 4chan or something
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BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
November 22 2011 00:31 GMT
#3005
@liberal

I see. So, the more we print...the higher the gold prices goes up. Correct?

@ 1Eris1

Sorry. Sometimes thinking outside the box is the way to go. We were there for their resources for sure and RT news makes you think if there were more reasons. I think you should go back to page 150 and watch the vid talking about the Fed. Which is something you might need to watch to understand what my real message is.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:49:19
November 22 2011 00:38 GMT
#3006
On November 22 2011 06:51 liberal wrote:
Well bob, you also have to remember that as long as gold is being valued according to dollars, we must take into account the inflation that the dollar has undergone to create such a high price of gold. But I guess you could use that as an argument in favor of gold over fiat currency as well.

There's an important lesson in that. During times of great inflation, there are two primary groups who benefit:

1) Those who hold debt.

2) Those who hold tangible assets.

The people who hold cash are having their wealth indirectly transferred to these other two groups. Inflation is really an indirect form of taxation, but people never really see it that way.

It's only a form of taxation as long as there is no growth and wages don't match/outpace the rate of inflation. In the current economic model, with a controlled and somewhat predictable rate of inflation increases incentives for investment in tangible goods and business enterprise. It encourages savings in the form of either safe or risky investment, instead of "mattress stashing."
On November 22 2011 09:31 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote:
@liberal

I see. So, the more we print...the higher the gold prices goes up. Correct?

Not exactly. Commodities are generally traded on futures, with maturity being the differeing aspect between them. For example, an investment in food futures today is a sign of how well you think the market for that food will be when it actually hits the market (3-12 months). Gold is seen as a long term invesment choice. When the price of gold skyrockets (like it has in the past few years), it's a better indicator of investor confidence and lack of safe choices in the market.

It's the same force behind low yields on on t-notes.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
November 22 2011 20:36 GMT
#3007
Wait a sec. There's yet another GOP debate tonight? How many of these do we need? By the time the nominee makes it to a general debate, Obama is going to know exactly how to stomp every single policy and ideal coming out of the GOP candidate's mouth... -_-
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
November 22 2011 20:42 GMT
#3008
On November 23 2011 05:36 aksfjh wrote:
Wait a sec. There's yet another GOP debate tonight? How many of these do we need? By the time the nominee makes it to a general debate, Obama is going to know exactly how to stomp every single policy and ideal coming out of the GOP candidate's mouth... -_-


Well, the debates are always the same anyway.

More soundbites and no actual policy.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#3009
On November 22 2011 06:38 synapse wrote:
My phone (CNN app) tells me that Gingrich is leading the polls... haven't heard much about this guy tbh o_o


Newt is a longtime Republican leader... he's had several failed runs, never able to get mainstream support. He always polls relatively high, but never seems to win. Honestly, I don't think he could win a general election. It's Huntsman or Romney if the Repubs want to win this time around.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
November 23 2011 01:16 GMT
#3010
Took me ~4 minutes to give up on tonight's debate.

Just nominate Romney already he's the only one up there who doesn't make me go "??? ... !! ..." when I imagine them as actually occupying the position of President of the United States.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
November 23 2011 01:45 GMT
#3011
On November 23 2011 10:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Took me ~4 minutes to give up on tonight's debate.

Just nominate Romney already he's the only one up there who doesn't make me go "??? ... !! ..." when I imagine them as actually occupying the position of President of the United States.


You have a very sophisticated criteria for evaluating candidates.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 01:51:53
November 23 2011 01:48 GMT
#3012
Lol I laughed when Perry said "Pakistan is the 6th largest country". I'm pretty sure he meant by population, but definitely stood out to me.

And Cain talking about a "power vacuum" in Iran, wtf?
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
November 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#3013
Am I hearing things or did Rick Santorum just call Africa a country?
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
FrodoAndTheSlobStix
Profile Joined September 2011
United States158 Posts
November 23 2011 02:04 GMT
#3014
where can I watch?1
You eat meat? Then your evil. Simple as that.
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
November 23 2011 02:09 GMT
#3015
On November 23 2011 11:04 FrodoAndTheSlobStix wrote:
where can I watch?1


I'm watching on cnn.com
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
November 23 2011 02:09 GMT
#3016
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvplive/cvpstream1#/video/cvplive/cvpstream1
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 23 2011 02:18 GMT
#3017
Bleh, this debate is less than exciting.
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 02:31:13
November 23 2011 02:28 GMT
#3018
On November 23 2011 05:36 aksfjh wrote:
Wait a sec. There's yet another GOP debate tonight? How many of these do we need? By the time the nominee makes it to a general debate, Obama is going to know exactly how to stomp every single policy and ideal coming out of the GOP candidate's mouth... -_-


Yeah...I'm not too sure about that. Obama is just another corporate shill that bends down to wallstreet. I'm still surprised by how many people still look up to him. If this doesn't convince you he's not on our side...I don't know what will :
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 02:50:15
November 23 2011 02:42 GMT
#3019
You have a very sophisticated criteria for evaluating candidates.


If you'd like I could give detailed reasons for why each candidate except Romney inspires that reaction in me, they're an underwhelming bunch anymore. The ridiculous length of campaign season has something to do with it as well as the candidates themselves.

Wait a sec. There's yet another GOP debate tonight? How many of these do we need? By the time the nominee makes it to a general debate, Obama is going to know exactly how to stomp every single policy and ideal coming out of the GOP candidate's mouth... -_-


Televised debates are more about how a candidate looks and sounds than scoring debate points, unless one or both candidates has an explicit attacking strategy. "There you go again" (Reagan vs. Carter), or "Wanna buy some wood?" (Bush vs. Kerry), or Kennedy looking handsome and Nixon ugly in the first 1960 debate, or Al Gore looking arrogant in the 2000 debates had nothing to do with ability to rebut an argument, but they were all reasons for the public's beliefs why one candidate had "won" the debate(s) and another "lost."
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
November 23 2011 02:48 GMT
#3020
On November 23 2011 11:42 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
You have a very sophisticated criteria for evaluating candidates.


If you'd like I could give detailed reasons for why each candidate except Romney inspires that reaction in me, they're an underwhelming bunch anymore. The ridiculous length of campaign season has something to do with it as well as the candidates themselves.

Ron Paul is a hell of a lot better than Romney and Grintrich combined:



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