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discodancer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
October 08 2011 03:18 GMT
#2381
Some people are delusional and borderline insane. Hyping up some psychopath who has no shot at the election? It's okay to bash Muslims because apparently >50% of Americans do that? ROFL. Get a reality check, your fucking head is not right. Quote your shit in a month when someone entirely different leads the polls.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 08 2011 03:41 GMT
#2382
Someone who has no shot at an election. You're describing many presidents with that statement. Barack Obama was a long shot. So was Lincoln (he was the 9th man of 12 expected to win the Republican primary if my memory servers me). Hell Obama is known to have been with terrorists, the Black Panthers, and anti-semites, but I guess a few things Mr. Cain does makes him too much of a long shot.
discodancer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
October 08 2011 03:52 GMT
#2383
I don't care for Obama personally but if you want my opinion he didn't sound like a complete moron. In fact he spoke in intelligent manner, maybe that's why he got elected? I don't remember him saying anything about his affiliation with terrorism, black panthers or antisemitism (I hope you don't actually believe this shit yourself, just using it as a tool for argument). In contrast, this Cain guy just says most outrageous crazy stuff that is not suitable for president of Russia, let alone US. I mean there would be an uproar if a president of goddamn Russia said this, are you seriously considering this as a non-issue? LMAO
CleanableCow
Profile Joined August 2011
United States18 Posts
October 08 2011 04:04 GMT
#2384
Bachmann is a too radical in my opinion. Go look at the Christian radicals she studied law under and the Chicago municipal laws she broke by turning a charter school into a Christian academy as the Chairman of the Board for that school. That makes me a little worried to put her in charge of a nation.
Black Grapes
Profile Joined October 2011
3 Posts
October 08 2011 04:20 GMT
#2385
Can you believe this guy:

CleanableCow
Profile Joined August 2011
United States18 Posts
October 08 2011 04:29 GMT
#2386
He's a political genius!
Senorcuidado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States700 Posts
October 08 2011 05:03 GMT
#2387
I was listening to Rick Perry give a speech on the way home from work and he said (this is from memory so maybe not perfect): "People aren't looking for government to lead the way, they're looking for America to get out of the way." /facepalm

I know what he was trying to say, but jeez he can't catch a damn break.

I'm sure the actual quote will be out pretty soon and I can source it accurately
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 08 2011 06:08 GMT
#2388
So Romney wants to resurrect Bush Foreign Policy, he is really reaching far right for votes.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LennyLeonard
Profile Joined September 2011
United States48 Posts
October 08 2011 06:21 GMT
#2389
Bachmann in 1st? I don't know whether to laugh, or vomit.
Conditioned since birth...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45089 Posts
October 08 2011 06:37 GMT
#2390
On October 08 2011 05:40 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:34 TOloseGT wrote:
On October 07 2011 16:08 lizzard_warish wrote:
Well compared to the known radicial affiliations and positions of Obama, I cant help but find the fixation on cains [something id consider race baiting rather than a conviction] remarks rather bizarre. Obamas radicalism is tried and tested, we know it. Cain said a few remarks about a very small minority in what I can say was fairly obviously just an attempt to get his face out there and get votes- it didnt work at all. He's still an accomplished businessmen and IMO far more suitable for the presidency than Obama is.


Yes, lets completely disregard Cain's position on issues like abortion, same sex marriage, and Muslims.


No one one should give two shits about those issues in this election. That's like worrying about what your flower garden looks like when your house is on fire.


To be fair, women, gays, Muslims, and other people who care about equality and civil rights might give at least two- if not more- shits about those topics.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
October 08 2011 07:58 GMT
#2391
On October 08 2011 11:42 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 23:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 07 2011 22:45 Klamity wrote:
On October 07 2011 16:08 lizzard_warish wrote:
Well compared to the known radicial affiliations and positions of Obama, I cant help but find the fixation on cains [something id consider race baiting rather than a conviction] remarks rather bizarre. Obamas radicalism is tried and tested, we know it. Cain said a few remarks about a very small minority in what I can say was fairly obviously just an attempt to get his face out there and get votes- it didnt work at all. He's still an accomplished businessmen and IMO far more suitable for the presidency than Obama is.


Please, enlighten me on his radical affiliations and positions + the sources.



Also, out of curiosity, how does someone being a businessman mean you're suitable for the presidency? I'm having trouble following the logic there. Running the country really isn't the same as running a business.

And we're not even talking Donald Trump- level businessman here. Being a board member and CEO of some restaurants and pizza chains? And not even Domino's or Pizza Hut... but "Godfather's Pizza".

Everyone was ridiculing Obama for having no experience when he was running for president, but Cain has far less political experience than Obama did- and Obama now has a full term of presidency under his belt. Granted, I'm sure this election is going to be "Do you really want to re-elect that guy again, or elect someone new?", but I don't see why I should have any reason to think that Cain would know what the heck he's doing if he became president.

I need to take that into account if I'm going to compare Cain to some other Republican candidates who have actually been in politics for a while. Ignoring platforms for a second, what experience does Cain actually have?

And... this:

People were bashing Obama for having no experience, political or otherwise. Being a first term senator hardly qualifies you to make decisions on a global scale, and it hardly gives any indication on whether you have a fucking clue what your talking about [and obviously enough obama did not]. Having a degree in economics or decades of experience in the economy, well, herpy derpy, that might just give you some credible experience in making real decisions effecting the economy.

And oh my GAWD Hermann Cain alongside the other 85+% of Americans who are christian think homosexuality is a sin? Why thats just...well completely average.
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 05:34 TOloseGT wrote:
On October 07 2011 16:08 lizzard_warish wrote:
Well compared to the known radicial affiliations and positions of Obama, I cant help but find the fixation on cains [something id consider race baiting rather than a conviction] remarks rather bizarre. Obamas radicalism is tried and tested, we know it. Cain said a few remarks about a very small minority in what I can say was fairly obviously just an attempt to get his face out there and get votes- it didnt work at all. He's still an accomplished businessmen and IMO far more suitable for the presidency than Obama is.


Yes, lets completely disregard Cain's position on issues like abortion, same sex marriage, and Muslims.
My post was in reply to the muslim thing. As to abortion and gay marriage...he holds a position that roughly half of Americans hold, so the fuck what? Sorry, but outside of your little college socialist bubble such positions arent extreme or surprising. Nor can he really effect them outside of supreme court justice appointments so you take your sensationalistic panic attacks somewhere else.


Thinking homosexuality is a sin and actively campaigning against same sex marriage is different. It's a shame you can't see that, when this country was built on the foundations of tolerance.

Also, where was I being sensational here? I dislike the candidate because his views are abhorrent, oh no, call TMZ! Who the fuck cares what the majority of ignorant WASPs think. The far right can keep those votes.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 08 2011 14:17 GMT
#2392
So Romney wants to resurrect Bush Foreign Policy, he is really reaching far right for votes.


If that was true (Romney reaching far right for votes through his foreign policy talking points), he'd be talking like Ron Paul. The far right is neo-isolationist, not neo-con.

Bush's foreign policy is in substance Obama's foreign policy, nothing has changed but the man in the Oval Office and the words he says. All style changes, substance still the same. So acting like it would be resurrected is kind of inexplicable. Can't resurrect something that never died.

So you say the wars are unimportant because they're obsolete to world-politics, but then come up with 9/11 which "only" was 10 years ago.


My goodness are you really so angry and dense that you can't figure out that I turned your logic against you to show you it supported a position that you would vehemently disagree with?

What does your talking about the blood feuds mean? The only blood feud is the afghan war. It's officialy revenge for 9/11. Do you want me to tell, that because islamic terrorism still exists, it's okay that the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq still continue?


Well of course it's okay they continue as their governments say we're okay to be there, but that isn't what I was saying.

What I'm saying is that you are setting a ridiculously low standard for justification of the kind of mindless anger that causes things like September 11th and the invasion of Iraq in the first place.

You still want to be so angry about the wars, fine. Then we get to still be equally angry as well about terrorists, and we've already seen where both roads go. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, except it's good for neither here.

But I suppose you probably never thought about it that way. Too blinded by anger at the United States.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
BlackFlag
Profile Joined September 2010
499 Posts
October 08 2011 14:59 GMT
#2393
On October 08 2011 23:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
So Romney wants to resurrect Bush Foreign Policy, he is really reaching far right for votes.


If that was true (Romney reaching far right for votes through his foreign policy talking points), he'd be talking like Ron Paul. The far right is neo-isolationist, not neo-con.

Bush's foreign policy is in substance Obama's foreign policy, nothing has changed but the man in the Oval Office and the words he says. All style changes, substance still the same. So acting like it would be resurrected is kind of inexplicable. Can't resurrect something that never died.

Show nested quote +
So you say the wars are unimportant because they're obsolete to world-politics, but then come up with 9/11 which "only" was 10 years ago.


My goodness are you really so angry and dense that you can't figure out that I turned your logic against you to show you it supported a position that you would vehemently disagree with?

Show nested quote +
What does your talking about the blood feuds mean? The only blood feud is the afghan war. It's officialy revenge for 9/11. Do you want me to tell, that because islamic terrorism still exists, it's okay that the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq still continue?


Well of course it's okay they continue as their governments say we're okay to be there, but that isn't what I was saying.

What I'm saying is that you are setting a ridiculously low standard for justification of the kind of mindless anger that causes things like September 11th and the invasion of Iraq in the first place.

You still want to be so angry about the wars, fine. Then we get to still be equally angry as well about terrorists, and we've already seen where both roads go. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, except it's good for neither here.

But I suppose you probably never thought about it that way. Too blinded by anger at the United States.


I am still angry at the wars because they _still continue_, imagine a 9/11 every month since the start of the Iraq War. If there would be reconciliation, troops removed etc. blabla Then I would change my opinion. But they are not over, they still rage on, they are not history but present. Do you really not understand me? And I don't have irrational anger at the USA. Some or many things I'm not ok with, and then I name them and talk about them. If the USA would change tomorrow and would champion humanity like they represent themselves, then I would stop criticizing.
Holey
Profile Joined December 2010
United States68 Posts
October 08 2011 17:11 GMT
#2394
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol
Dandy Lion
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy11 Posts
October 08 2011 17:56 GMT
#2395
On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol

So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol
I'm a fucking dreamer, man! But I'm not the only one.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 18:10:38
October 08 2011 18:10 GMT
#2396
On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol

So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol


If that is what you wish, then you will have the freedom to do so.

If not, buy insurance.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dandy Lion
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy11 Posts
October 08 2011 18:20 GMT
#2397
On October 09 2011 03:10 stevarius wrote:

If that is what you wish, then you will have the freedom to do so.

If not, buy insurance.


I agree completely. I cannot understand why some people are so stubbornly poor. I'd just like to tell them "Be rich, goddamnit!".
I'm a fucking dreamer, man! But I'm not the only one.
Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 18:23:40
October 08 2011 18:23 GMT
#2398
On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol

So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol



Who's fault is it that "they" cant afford insurance?
4 Corners in a day.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 08 2011 18:25 GMT
#2399
On October 09 2011 03:10 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:
On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol

So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol


If that is what you wish, then you will have the freedom to do so.

If not, buy insurance.

How much is American insurance anyhow?
Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
October 08 2011 18:25 GMT
#2400
On October 09 2011 03:23 Papulatus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:
On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol

So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol



Who's fault is it that "they" cant afford insurance?


It can be for a variety of reasons. But the fact is, not everyone has the same opportunities. That's why the Republican party's ideas don't work.
"If you give up on yourself, you give up on the world."
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