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I thought that too when I first heard the name, but I think Cain's referring to someone else.
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These moderators are fucking awful.
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Cain is irking me more and more. It's probably because i'm left, but he seriously sounds like an illiterate dumbass who has no respect for foreign policy, not to mention knowledge.
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On October 12 2011 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Cain is irking me more and more. It's probably because i'm left, but he seriously sounds like an illiterate dumbass who has no respect for foreign policy, not to mention knowledge.
He hasn't really said much on foreign policy. All he has said is that he would identify our friends, identify our enemies, and stop sending money to our enemies. His foreign policy is fairly undeveloped beyond that point.
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On October 12 2011 09:51 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Cain is irking me more and more. It's probably because i'm left, but he seriously sounds like an illiterate dumbass who has no respect for foreign policy, not to mention knowledge. He hasn't really said much on foreign policy. All he has said is that he would identify our friends, identify our enemies, and stop sending money to our enemies. His foreign policy is fairly undeveloped beyond that point.
Have you seen the clip of him and hard questions? (it was a question sort of dealing with uzbekistan. i don't have a link atm but he came across as a douchebag, saying that he doesn't care about all the "insignificant countries")
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On October 12 2011 09:58 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 09:51 xDaunt wrote:On October 12 2011 09:49 darthfoley wrote:
Cain is irking me more and more. It's probably because i'm left, but he seriously sounds like an illiterate dumbass who has no respect for foreign policy, not to mention knowledge. He hasn't really said much on foreign policy. All he has said is that he would identify our friends, identify our enemies, and stop sending money to our enemies. His foreign policy is fairly undeveloped beyond that point. Have you seen the clip of him and hard questions? (it was a question sort of dealing with uzbekistan. i don't have a link atm but he came across as a douchebag, saying that he doesn't care about all the "insignificant countries")
I don't think that I've seen that one. Cain obviously has minimal experience with regards to foreign policy (as evidenced by his "right of return" flub). That said, I don't think that anyone has sufficient foreign policy experience unless they have already served in a high level foreign policy office in the executive branch (like secretary of state or one of the intelligence branches). There's just so much information that only the president is privy to that it's almost meaningless for candidates to talk specifically about what they'd do in the presidency with regards to foreign policy. Obama's a classic example of this. How many of his foreign policy promises that he made during his campaign has he broken so far? Like all of them? Obviously, he learned something new in the Oval Office that changed his mind.
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I don't get why people keep hammering Romney on Romneycare at the debates. Romney always has a good answer available. Perry just stupidly asked Romney about Romneycare. Predictably, Romney threw a crushing answer right back at him, comparing the rates of uninsured children in Massachusetts (very low) to Texas (over 1 million). So bad.
Yes, Romneycare is a liability for Romney, but it's not something that should be raised at the debates. It only needs be mentioned on stump speeches. Everyone knows about it. It's not like republicans need more education on this point.
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Lol @ Bachmann plugging her website
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On October 12 2011 09:45 xDaunt wrote:I thought that too when I first heard the name, but I think Cain's referring to someone else.
you're right, it's this guy: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rich-lowrie/a/74b/805
I think romney had the strongest debate today
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Its going to be Romney, whether the GOP likes it or not. With Chris Christie not joining and endorsing Romney, there's no one sane left to challenge Romney.
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Absolutely horribly moderated debate tonight. The moderators had fairly open contempt for the candidates, which was reflected in their questions. The segment where each candidate had an opportunity to ask a question of another candidate was interesting, but I think that only Romney understood the trap that this opportunity presented. He smartly lobbed an innocuous question at Bachmann rather than trying to go after Romney or Cain. Everyone else who tried to be aggressive with their questions had their questions thrown right back in their faces with no opportunity for response (See my prior post on Perry).
Anyway, here are my thoughts on the candidates:
Romney: Another strong performance. Interestingly, he laid off Herman Cain and only lobbed a few grenades into Perry's foxhole. I think he senses that he can win the nomination with his superior organization as long as Perry is neutralized. He may be right about this. Romney's weakest answers came in response to the Eurozone Crisis of 2013 hypothetical. Admittedly, it was stupid question, but Romney's response was surprisingly nonsensical (not that I think that any other candidate would have answered it better).
Cain: Cain had a good showing too. He took some fire on his 999 plan, but I doubt that it will adversely affect him. The only answer of Cain's that I didn't like was his very first answer about how he would bridge the divide in Washington, which was basically unresponsive.
Perry: Seriously, wtf is wrong with this guy? He's been taking fire for weeks for poor debate performances, he knew that this debate was about the economy, and he still didn't have a plan. Worse still for him, his attack question on Romney catastrophically failed. I think Perry's done.
Huntsman: I've been hard on this guy and I don't like him. That said, he had a very good showing tonight. A few his answers were excellent both in substance and presentation.
Bachmann: Well, she avoided shooting herself in the face for the first time in a while (probably because she wasn't given an opportunity to do so).
Santorum: Still an asshole.
Gingrich: Surprisingly, I don't think that Gingrich was particularly good tonight. He didn't really offer any specifics as to what he would do.
Paul: Paul was Paul. We basically know what to expect from him. at this point.
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On October 12 2011 10:52 ZeaL. wrote:Its going to be Romney, whether the GOP likes it or not. With Chris Christie not joining and endorsing Romney, there's no one sane left to challenge Romney.
None of them are really sane, and that's what makes me sad. I want Goldwater back >_<.
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lol at the end them showing "highlights" from all nominees except for Paul... Standard.
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Romney and Cain seem to be hogging most of the spotlight, with 90% of the questions targeted towards them. Perry and Bachmann getting the leftover questions, and the rest getting the scraps.
It's pretty sad how these debates basically already chose the candidates by giving them all of the spotlight. Why can't these debates ever have equal amounts of questions and air time for each candidate? They've already picked the frontrunners for us.
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I think they should be asked on other issues as well, because talking about what they are going to do and not what they've done is a mistake here.
If you look at their records all of them supported the bailouts, except Paul, not all voted, but when asked about it they've always supported it. They all support the patriot act, well except Paul once gain, they all support the TSA with of course the exception of Paul and most of them support the wars and the killing of American citizens by the president.
So my question too all of them would be why you support the above mentioned stuff.
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Your favorite color is blue, and you'll like it. Matter of fact, it will probably be Romney.
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On October 10 2011 01:44 0mar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 03:25 Roe wrote:On October 09 2011 03:10 stevarius wrote:On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol If that is what you wish, then you will have the freedom to do so. If not, buy insurance. How much is American insurance anyhow? Depends. Typically it starts at around 200/person and goes up from there. If you have something pre-existing, such as hypertension or diabetes, forget about it. No one will insure you or if they do, it'll start at ludicrous prices like 1500/month. That's why having a job that provides healthcare is so important because then you can get covered with pre-existing conditions as well as pay much less per month in premiums. For a family of 4, you'll pay about 100/month with your employer picking the rest up. That's far better than the 800-1200 it normally would be.
Of course, having health insurance doesn't protect you from bankruptcy, or death if they decide not to cover your treatment or medicine based on technicalities. I really don't care for the deceptive arguments about taking your own risks by not buying insurance. Nobody, except the super rich, is safe, and pretending that the system is fine is...trying to be nice here...wrong?
I'm not attacking you, but I just wanted to clear that up. For someone from another country, just hearing that insurance costs X dollars doesn't do justice to how bad our health care system really is.
Anyway, I'm at work and missed the debate  . Highlights, anyone? I really wanted to hear Cain elaborate some more about the 999 plan.
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I don't understand how Rick Perry, governor of the state with the most job creation in the last 3 years, failed to take advantage of a debate on economics. And no I don't really believe that Perry caused said job creation or that he has the best policies (though some are useful and have helped Texas), but it's a damn effective talking point to have, and Perry needed to re-energize his campaign tonight after Cain had clearly taken his place as the Anybody-but-Romney candidate.
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On October 12 2011 11:47 Senorcuidado wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 01:44 0mar wrote:On October 09 2011 03:25 Roe wrote:On October 09 2011 03:10 stevarius wrote:On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol If that is what you wish, then you will have the freedom to do so. If not, buy insurance. How much is American insurance anyhow? Depends. Typically it starts at around 200/person and goes up from there. If you have something pre-existing, such as hypertension or diabetes, forget about it. No one will insure you or if they do, it'll start at ludicrous prices like 1500/month. That's why having a job that provides healthcare is so important because then you can get covered with pre-existing conditions as well as pay much less per month in premiums. For a family of 4, you'll pay about 100/month with your employer picking the rest up. That's far better than the 800-1200 it normally would be. Of course, having health insurance doesn't protect you from bankruptcy, or death if they decide not to cover your treatment or medicine based on technicalities. I really don't care for the deceptive arguments about taking your own risks by not buying insurance. Nobody, except the super rich, is safe, and pretending that the system is fine is...trying to be nice here...wrong? I'm not attacking you, but I just wanted to clear that up. For someone from another country, just hearing that insurance costs X dollars doesn't do justice to how bad our health care system really is. Anyway, I'm at work and missed the debate . Highlights, anyone? I really wanted to hear Cain elaborate some more about the 999 plan.
There really isn't much to understand about the 999 plan. It's pretty simple. That said, Cain was asked some loaded questions about the 999 plan, but he fielded them fairly well. He definitely understands the ins and outs of what he's advocating.
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On October 12 2011 11:47 Senorcuidado wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 01:44 0mar wrote:On October 09 2011 03:25 Roe wrote:On October 09 2011 03:10 stevarius wrote:On October 09 2011 02:56 Dandy Lion wrote:On October 09 2011 02:11 Holey wrote:
Ron Paul!
we all know why we want him to get elected ^^ lol So that sick people will die untreated in their homes because they can't afford healthcare ^^ lol If that is what you wish, then you will have the freedom to do so. If not, buy insurance. How much is American insurance anyhow? Depends. Typically it starts at around 200/person and goes up from there. If you have something pre-existing, such as hypertension or diabetes, forget about it. No one will insure you or if they do, it'll start at ludicrous prices like 1500/month. That's why having a job that provides healthcare is so important because then you can get covered with pre-existing conditions as well as pay much less per month in premiums. For a family of 4, you'll pay about 100/month with your employer picking the rest up. That's far better than the 800-1200 it normally would be. Of course, having health insurance doesn't protect you from bankruptcy, or death if they decide not to cover your treatment or medicine based on technicalities. I really don't care for the deceptive arguments about taking your own risks by not buying insurance. Nobody, except the super rich, is safe, and pretending that the system is fine is...trying to be nice here...wrong? I'm not attacking you, but I just wanted to clear that up. For someone from another country, just hearing that insurance costs X dollars doesn't do justice to how bad our health care system really is. Anyway, I'm at work and missed the debate . Highlights, anyone? I really wanted to hear Cain elaborate some more about the 999 plan.
he didn't say anything new about his plan. he didn't reveal anything about his numbers except the final result and starting point, and he didn't reveal any economists standing behind it besides that wells fargo guy i linked above.
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