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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:13:04
August 01 2011 17:11 GMT
#61
On August 02 2011 02:10 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 00:54 WniO wrote:
the problem with this is they cant render it in real time, or animate for that matter.


wasn't that the whole point of the video? was saying that they CAN render it real time?

no

okay i'm just going to put this out there

NOTHING is going to come from this
you've already been given the technical reasons why
now you have to understand that australia's game industry is virtually non-existent
we don't have the industry as a country to suddenly come out with amazing breakthrough technology, we just don't
lalala
Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:16:00
August 01 2011 17:12 GMT
#62
Their atom count. Its over 9000!

I can't see any machine render animated battles in real time with such big atom count ;<

Edit: 20 fps with no animation and same trees and rocks copied over and over.

This seems great but a budged for any AAA game with this engine would be so big it wouldn't bay back for itself.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
August 01 2011 17:14 GMT
#63
On August 02 2011 02:11 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:10 Keitzer wrote:
On August 02 2011 00:54 WniO wrote:
the problem with this is they cant render it in real time, or animate for that matter.


wasn't that the whole point of the video? was saying that they CAN render it real time?

no

okay i'm just going to put this out there

NOTHING is going to come from this
you've already been given the technical reasons why
now you have to understand that australia's game industry is virtually non-existent
we don't have the industry as a country to suddenly come out with amazing breakthrough technology, we just don't



so if the only thing they can do with this is render epic-looking cinematics, then sweet, now we have better cinematics.... why do you assume nothing? are you the terminator back from the future to make sure it doesn't happen?
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
August 01 2011 17:15 GMT
#64
The future looks cool!
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Neb1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States183 Posts
August 01 2011 17:17 GMT
#65
On August 02 2011 01:57 Blyadischa wrote:
I don't understand this...

Does anyone think that their "atom"-based graphics look like graphics from games from like 7 years ago?

No not at all.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
August 01 2011 17:17 GMT
#66
This does look amazing, hopefully we will see stuff like this within this decade.
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
August 01 2011 17:19 GMT
#67
It looks very good. But there might be some problems ahead with lighting, animation, more then 5 models and fps with all these implemented. I hope it turns out for the best.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
August 01 2011 17:20 GMT
#68
is this kind of technology applicable at all for lets say starcraft 2? like would it add detail to rubble when you blow up a siege tank or something?
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
August 01 2011 17:21 GMT
#69
Wow our technology in the next five years is this slow people are actually debating whether it is possible? Sigh wtf are our researchers doing...
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
August 01 2011 17:21 GMT
#70
On August 02 2011 01:07 Thrill wrote:
This is bullcrap, sadly. It's even harder to render than tessellation.

Best proof that this is a hoax is the voice they used for the video, that alone is enough to tell you they're not serious about it.


Technology progresses forward. Whether or not this is real, you can't just look at everything better than the current and call it fake just because you want to believe it isn't real.

If I find a way to cure cancer that requires super advanced technology that doesn't exist yet, the cure is not a hoax. It just needs technological advances before it can be utilized. Kinda like this.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 01 2011 17:21 GMT
#71
The demonstration, while completely static, still impresses me, but the announcer, the technology, basically everything about this reeks of bullshit.

I would love to be contradicted.
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Haegr9599
Profile Joined April 2011
United States210 Posts
August 01 2011 17:22 GMT
#72
This is pretty amazing. Just how realistic it is though... thats a different story.

To be perfectly honest, and as a few people above me have stated, i would think that animated objects with the atom style of graphics would be VERY CPU - intensive.

Just my two cents.
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daytrippers
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:25:51
August 01 2011 17:23 GMT
#73
So cool. I hate polygons now though.

I feel they didnt touch on the subject of collision detection and movement though.
DeltaSigmaL
Profile Joined July 2011
United States205 Posts
August 01 2011 17:24 GMT
#74
Many people seem to doubt the demonstration based on the supposed memory requirements the system would need. Is there a demonstration using polygons that can acheive detail like this? Even if this does take up absurd amounts of memory, it's still cool that you can render those scenes so quickly.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
August 01 2011 17:24 GMT
#75
i think polygons work just great tbh



lol
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FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
August 01 2011 17:25 GMT
#76
If this is true. WOW amazing.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 01 2011 17:25 GMT
#77
On August 02 2011 02:14 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:11 youngminii wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:10 Keitzer wrote:
On August 02 2011 00:54 WniO wrote:
the problem with this is they cant render it in real time, or animate for that matter.


wasn't that the whole point of the video? was saying that they CAN render it real time?

no

okay i'm just going to put this out there

NOTHING is going to come from this
you've already been given the technical reasons why
now you have to understand that australia's game industry is virtually non-existent
we don't have the industry as a country to suddenly come out with amazing breakthrough technology, we just don't



so if the only thing they can do with this is render epic-looking cinematics, then sweet, now we have better cinematics.... why do you assume nothing? are you the terminator back from the future to make sure it doesn't happen?

yes
i am the terminator sent back in time to convince the public that this will never work so that they cannot get funding to build their super atom computer which has the power to control all the atoms that the company has the patent. unfortunately the entire world decided to adopt this atom graphical power so these guys decide to make the world nuke themselves with atom bombs

in funnier news:

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lalala
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
August 01 2011 17:30 GMT
#78
Let me know when they develop technology that allows them to make great games like they did in the 16-bit era please
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 01 2011 17:31 GMT
#79
I don't really believe this, but would love to see it happen
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:32:36
August 01 2011 17:32 GMT
#80
On August 02 2011 01:57 Blyadischa wrote:
I don't understand this...

Does anyone think that their "atom"-based graphics look like graphics from games from like 7 years ago?


Like they said, they aren't artists.

A lot of what you see today is just artistic, from the high contrast to the exaggerated blurs. They don't seem to have very interesting lighting or specular mapping so it looks boring and bland, but the detail is a lot higher otherwise.

Also, he's throwing around unlimited and unlimited is, of course, technically impossible because even with compression and decompression and streaming, you still need to have space for it all.

In all likelihood, just like all graphics technology, you'll be able to utilize this technology in bits and pieces where it seems fit and not just render a whole world with it and every little granulation of it you can think of. I would expect maybe world objects, like trees or leaves, to be utilizing point-cloud atoms while the character models still use normal polygons (if it's an FPS, probably the gun would also use atoms). The dirt would probably still be a textured surface of polygons done in a more regular fashion, with maybe certain objects (still objects) utilizing atoms.

Maybe someday it can be utilized for everything. Maybe.

Still, I want to see a better tech demo than this. I'm skeptical, but the cries of "impossible" are as exaggerated as this promo video.
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