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chriswilliam
Profile Joined June 2021
United States1 Post
June 02 2021 15:08 GMT
#221
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 31 2021 14:24 GMT
#222
Publicly NASA is still holding onto the possibility of a 2021 launch date for the debut flight of its Space Launch System rocket. This week, an agency spokesperson told Ars that "NASA is working toward a launch for the Artemis I mission by the end of this year."

However, a source said the best-case scenario for launching the Artemis 1 mission is spring of next year, with summer the more realistic target for a test flight of the heavy lift rocket and Orion spacecraft. The space agency is already running about two months behind internal targets for testing and integrating the rocket at Kennedy Space Center, and the critical pre-flight tests remain ahead.

NASA's Kathryn Hambleton acknowledged that the space agency has seen schedule slips. "The agency continues to monitor the rise of COVID cases in the Kennedy area, which combined with other factors such as weather and first time operations, is impacting our schedule of operations," she said. "Moving step by step, we are progressing toward launch while keeping our team as safe as possible."

Earlier this summer technicians and engineers in Florida completed stacking the SLS rocket, along with its side boosters. A "mass simulator" for Orion was then placed atop the rocket. At present NASA and its contractors are working on vibration tests of the assembled rocket, with the goal of better understanding the difference between the natural vibrations of the full stack versus those caused by external forces. This information will be fed into flight software.

NASA originally hoped to complete this work in July, but Hambleton confirmed to Ars that this vibration, or "modal" testing, is ongoing in the Vehicle Assembly Building at Kennedy Space Center.

Following this testing, the mass simulator will be removed, and the Orion spacecraft with its launch abort system will be stacked carefully on top of the rocket. This process may take a few weeks. Following this assembly and further tests, the SLS stack will be rolled to Launch Pad 39B for a "wet dress rehearsal," during which the vehicle will be fueled and much of an actual countdown simulated. However, the vehicle's engines will not be fired. A source said this wet-dress test will likely take place in November or December.

Following this test, the vehicle will be rolled back into the Vehicle Assembly Building for final checks and closeouts. Assuming the wet dress rehearsal proceeds nominally and other activities continue on schedule, the SLS rocket could launch next spring. However if there are further delays, or if the wet dress rehearsal identifies new issues, the launch would more likely slip to next summer.

Hambleton said NASA plans to soon offer an update on launch dates. After modal testing and stacking of Orion on top of the rocket, she said the agency will release a projected date for the wet dress rehearsal and the launch of the rocket itself. "As always, we will fly only when we are ready," she said.

Although years late and many billions of dollars over budget, the launch of this rocket will in some ways be a minor miracle. For a large bureaucracy like NASA, completing complex human spaceflight tasks is difficult. And the SLS rocket is complex both technically and politically.

Concerned about job losses after the space shuttle retired, Congress imposed this rocket on the space agency, down to dictating its various components to ensure that space shuttle contractors such as Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and Aerojet Rocketdyne continued to receive substantial space program funding. Each contractor was given a "cost plus" contract that ensured funding but provided little incentive for on-time delivery.

The legislation creating the Space Launch System was passed in October 2010, at which time the rocket was expected to be ready for operations in 2016. One of the key legislators behind the rocket's creation was then Florida-Senator Bill Nelson. He relentlessly fought against the Obama administration's effort to see if private companies, such as United Launch Alliance and SpaceX, could more efficiently build a large rocket for NASA. The space agency and its traditional contractors could do the job better than anyone, he said.

"This rocket is coming in at the cost of what not only what we estimated in the NASA Authorization act, but less,” Nelson said at the time. “The cost of the rocket over a five- to six-year period in the NASA authorization bill was to be no more than $11.5 billion.” Later, he went further, saying, "If we can't do a rocket for $11.5 billion, we ought to close up shop."

More than a decade later, NASA has spent more than $20 billion to reach the launch pad. And Nelson is no longer a US Senator, he is the administrator of the space agency. The shop remains open.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 22 2021 20:50 GMT
#223
Ninja bump. Mark your calendars.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 27 2021 16:17 GMT
#224
Pffft lol. This has Bill Nelson written all over it.

NASA has asked the US aerospace industry how it would go about "maximizing the long-term efficiency and sustainability" of the Space Launch System rocket and its associated ground systems.

The request comes as NASA and its chief contractor for the rocket, Boeing, are nearing the launch pad after a long, arduous, and expensive development process that has lasted more than a decade. The heavy lift SLS rocket, carrying an Orion space capsule, should finally make its debut during the first half of 2022.

In its request NASA says it would like to fly the SLS rocket for "30 years or more" as a national capability. Moreover, the agency wants the rocket to become a "sustainable and affordable system for moving humans and large cargo payloads to cislunar and deep-space destinations."

NASA sees itself as the "anchor tenant" of the launch system and procuring one crewed flight per year for the next decade or longer. Where appropriate, the agency said, industry will "market" the large launch vehicle to other customers, including the science community and other government and non-government entities.


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Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States830 Posts
October 28 2021 04:40 GMT
#225
On October 28 2021 01:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Pffft lol. This has Bill Nelson written all over it.

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NASA has asked the US aerospace industry how it would go about "maximizing the long-term efficiency and sustainability" of the Space Launch System rocket and its associated ground systems.

The request comes as NASA and its chief contractor for the rocket, Boeing, are nearing the launch pad after a long, arduous, and expensive development process that has lasted more than a decade. The heavy lift SLS rocket, carrying an Orion space capsule, should finally make its debut during the first half of 2022.

In its request NASA says it would like to fly the SLS rocket for "30 years or more" as a national capability. Moreover, the agency wants the rocket to become a "sustainable and affordable system for moving humans and large cargo payloads to cislunar and deep-space destinations."

NASA sees itself as the "anchor tenant" of the launch system and procuring one crewed flight per year for the next decade or longer. Where appropriate, the agency said, industry will "market" the large launch vehicle to other customers, including the science community and other government and non-government entities.


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arstechnica's comment section is brutal.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 27 2021 23:44 GMT
#226
Always a good sign.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2021 03:01 GMT
#227
I mean what else can, honestly, go wrong at this point?

NASA plans to replace an engine controller aboard its massive SLS rocket after finding a communications glitch with the system’s avionics during pre-flight testing, the latest setback in a program for which Boeing Co. is the main contractor and that has been plagued by years of delays and billions of dollars in costs beyond its initial budget.

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration also said Friday it will explore launch dates for a test flight in March and April.

The rocket, which Congress authorized and began funding in 2010, was supposed to fly in late 2016. In October, NASA solicited ideas from the aerospace industry about ways to lower the costs associated with the Space Launch System.

Replacing the unit on one of the SLS’s four RS-25 engines is “the best course of action,” the agency said. The update comes after engineers preparing the rocket for flight detected a communications problem last month between the rocket’s avionics system and the No. 4 engine, and began troubleshooting the issue.

NASA plans to use the Space Launch System rocket and Orion crew capsule to return astronauts to the moon later this decade. It had set a tentative launch date of Feb. 12 for the SLS-Orion system’s initial uncrewed Artemis 1 test flight around the moon.

Boeing is the rocket’s prime contractor and the RS-25 engines, which date to the Space Shuttle program, are supplied by Aerojet Rocketdyne Holdings Inc. The main contractor for the Orion crew capsule, which is designed to take astronauts to deep space, is Lockheed Martin Corp.

For its initial four Artemis flights, NASA will likely spend $4.1 billion per launch for SLS and the Orion capsule, totaling $16.4 billion, according to a Nov. 15 NASA Inspector General report. The agency has spent more than $11 billion to date on the rocket. That document also predicted the first Artemis flight won’t be ready to launch before the summer of 2022.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 05 2022 21:58 GMT
#228
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-09 16:23:56
February 09 2022 16:21 GMT
#229


Narrator: Each engine costs NASA $146 million. That is enough for 1 Falcon Heavy launch, or 3 falcon 9 launches.
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TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia316 Posts
February 09 2022 18:29 GMT
#230
Damn that's super expensive? Is the SLS that much bigger to justify the price?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 24 2022 19:41 GMT
#231
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 01 2022 17:34 GMT
#232
New figures for the SLS came out, and it's not good. For just FOUR launches will total 16.4 BILLION dollars.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 14 2022 21:50 GMT
#233
NASA is hosting a Press Briefing on the SLS before the rollout.

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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8979 Posts
March 14 2022 23:59 GMT
#234
As much as I want SLS to succeed, I really want NASA to pull the plug on this after the first launch. It's an absurd amount of money to pay for substandard contractor work. The delays, costs overruns, and poor planning should have killed it after 5 years imo. Charge the money lost to the game and move on.
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-15 02:41:40
March 15 2022 02:41 GMT
#235
On March 15 2022 08:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
As much as I want SLS to succeed, I really want NASA to pull the plug on this after the first launch. It's an absurd amount of money to pay for substandard contractor work. The delays, costs overruns, and poor planning should have killed it after 5 years imo. Charge the money lost to the game and move on.

Too entrenched politically to make that happen, (barring it doesn't explode on the pad). Block 2 of SLS is a solid workhorse to be used for the Lunar Surface and TLI. 40-50 tons with one launch is a useful skill toi have. But yeah, if Bridenstine was still in charge I could see SLS getting stripped away. howevers ... 4-5 billion a launch ... that could be 20-30 Falcon Heavy's. That be the entire Lunar Gateway set up + some actual habitation modules on the surface for a single SLS launch.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8979 Posts
March 15 2022 03:27 GMT
#236
On March 15 2022 11:41 Husyelt wrote:
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On March 15 2022 08:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
As much as I want SLS to succeed, I really want NASA to pull the plug on this after the first launch. It's an absurd amount of money to pay for substandard contractor work. The delays, costs overruns, and poor planning should have killed it after 5 years imo. Charge the money lost to the game and move on.

Too entrenched politically to make that happen, (barring it doesn't explode on the pad). Block 2 of SLS is a solid workhorse to be used for the Lunar Surface and TLI. 40-50 tons with one launch is a useful skill toi have. But yeah, if Bridenstine was still in charge I could see SLS getting stripped away. howevers ... 4-5 billion a launch ... that could be 20-30 Falcon Heavy's. That be the entire Lunar Gateway set up + some actual habitation modules on the surface for a single SLS launch.

Agreed that the Block 2 is useful. Like I said, I want it to succeed but I cannot justify that price at all. I'm not saying give it all to SpaceX but they're the furthest ahead and have a really good thing going with Starship and their other systems. I can see them not wanting to be shown playing favorites or creating a monopoly with SpaceX but until others catch up or at least prove they can deliver as SpaceX has, then fuck seeming impropriety and get that show on the road. You could launch 10 Starships for the price of 1 SLS and get a lot more stuff into orbit.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 17 2022 20:45 GMT
#237
Rollout begins in about 15 minutes.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 17 2022 21:54 GMT
#238
After delays rollout has finally started. Time to get to the pad is almost 12 hours.

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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4159 Posts
March 17 2022 22:10 GMT
#239
Is this a test or an actual mission?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 17 2022 22:16 GMT
#240
Test. Basically a dress rehearsal.
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