[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 123

On July 26 2011 05:27 Shikyo wrote:

but socialist in this context isn't really socialist, it's more like social liberalist or something of that effect

On July 26 2011 05:38 Sandermatt wrote:



I hope they will not charge him for "war crimes". This would imply he acted as some kind of soldier. The ability to wage war against norway makes him more important than he is.

On July 26 2011 06:22 plated.rawr wrote:
Let's stop comparing this to american whatevers. That discussion will always devolve into a US versus the world, and there's plenty other threads already going in that direction. In general, norwegian society has different values than the american society, so the actions and reactions of the other will always be somewhat alien. Comparisons are moot.


http://www.bt.no/nyheter/innenriks/Breivik-risikerer-30-rs-fengsel-2543511.html

Norwegian source. Basically what it says in regard to the 30 year sentence possibility, is that if Breivik's actions fall under crimes against humanity, which is a war crime, he can be sentenced for that maximum sentence. Otherwise, he's limited to the 21 year life time sentence, plus additional 5 year periods of 'forvaring' after that, depending on the mental state of the prisoner.

Wether or not that would make him into some sort of soldier or not is up to interpretation. What matters is wether or not his act is rated as a crime against humanity or not.

On July 26 2011 06:44 Sandermatt wrote:


To the maximum of 5 years forvaring. In case the therapeuts would say he is likely to kill again, can't they keep him longer?

On July 26 2011 05:04 TokO wrote:
Just want to clarify, most youth politicians I know are intelligent people who are actively contributing to democracy in Norway. I'm actually insulted that Glenn Beck would even make that ignorant statement given the situation. People are there voluntarily because they agree with their respective party, and most of all, they want to make Norway a better country. They all are an inspiring group of people for the democratic world.

On July 26 2011 05:04 TokO wrote:
Just want to clarify, most youth politicians I know are intelligent people who are actively contributing to democracy in Norway. I'm actually insulted that Glenn Beck would even make that ignorant statement given the situation. People are there voluntarily because they agree with their respective party, and most of all, they want to make Norway a better country. They all are an inspiring group of people for the democratic world.

On July 26 2011 06:44 Sandermatt wrote:


To the maximum of 5 years forvaring. In case the therapeuts would say he is likely to kill again, can't they keep him longer?

On July 26 2011 07:01 Lobo2me wrote:


Many on the camp were there probably just because it was a free trip. That was what a couple of classmates did when they went there some years ago, it was a free trip to Oslo and an island with hundreds of other kids, it was fun for them even if they didn't care about politics.

On July 26 2011 07:18 BlackJack wrote:


I'm equally insulted that one off-the-cuff comment during a 3 hour radio show generates the headline "Glenn Beck On Norway Killings: Children Like 'Hitler Youth" (Huffingtonpost headline). Using this tragedy to score a cheap political win with a sensationalist and misleading headline for an off-the-cuff comment taken out of context is equally outrageous, imo. I'm no fan of Beck, but it's clear to me that he's not the only one out of line here.

On July 26 2011 08:05 AikaEU wrote:
http://www.google.si/imgres?q=Anders+Behring+Breivik


Not sure if this has been posted already, but here is picture of Anders with his sister and mother.

On July 26 2011 08:58 Quotidian wrote:



that's EXTREMELY unproffessional of The Telegraph. His mother and sister are entitled to as much anonymity as they can get at this point, this situation has already ruined their lives. His mother even needed emergency psychiatric help (which I assume means she was contemplating or had attempted to take her own life)

On July 26 2011 08:58 Quotidian wrote:



He was not out of line comparing a summer camp for youth, which by most accounts is just as much a place to pick up girls/boys as it is about politics, with the hitler jugend? What planet are you living on? You either have no idea what kind of camp this was, or you have no understanding of history and what the hitler jugend actually was and represented - or all of the above. And there was nothing "off the cuff" about Beck's comment. He had heard about the situation before going on air and had time to form an opinion on the matter before making the comment. He'll take any chance to take a random stab at a social democratic society, because that's just what he does




that's EXTREMELY unproffessional of The Telegraph. His mother and sister are entitled to as much anonymity as they can get at this point, this situation has already ruined their lives. His mother even needed emergency psychiatric help (which I assume means she was contemplating or had attempted to take her own life)

On July 26 2011 09:39 BlackJack wrote:


I said he was out line.

On July 26 2011 09:48 Otori wrote:
Some people are saying he filmed the whole thing with a small video camera that was attached to his gun, if that is true that clip will guaranteed leak since evidence is official and anyone is allowed to see evidence after the trial I belive. That would probably be a really disgusting clip to watch =/

On July 26 2011 09:51 plated.rawr wrote:

Has this been verified? I did hear the news mentioning that he had written in his manifest about experimenting with a small camera, but I never heard anything about actual usage of it.

If he has filmed it, I

Well, it

It will be terrible.

On July 26 2011 10:00 On_Slaught wrote:
Heard on NPR that they have lowered the death count to 73 on the island. Apparently in the confusion they counted some people twice or something like that.

Wonderful news.