1. Obviously the info on the ID
2. Year I graduated from high school
3. What high school I attended
4. Capital of the state I'm "from"
5. What year in college I'm in
I appreciate any help you guys can give me!
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OverKiLL.
United States199 Posts
1. Obviously the info on the ID 2. Year I graduated from high school 3. What high school I attended 4. Capital of the state I'm "from" 5. What year in college I'm in I appreciate any help you guys can give me! | ||
3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
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brian
United States9616 Posts
but yeah i was never even ID'd One thing that sadly catches some people by surprise is how old you "are." you can repeat all you want that your birthday is 7-11-1988 but how old does that makes you? dumbass friend of mine lost that one pretty bad. | ||
Armathai
1023 Posts
Anyway as for questions, as you said, know the info on your ID, and don't fuck yourself over by showing a credit card or whatever (while pulling it out) with a dif name(assuming your fakeid doesn' have your own name). Similarly they'll maybe know the state you're from(the way you wrote it suggests you're not from the state your id says you are) so whatever town/shit is written on it be sure u know major sites or some shit if they randomly ask. Mostly just don't appear super cool or super nervous, both I think let bouncers know something is up straight off the bat. | ||
Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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OsoVega
926 Posts
On July 08 2011 07:48 3clipse wrote: You really get put through that sort of shit? I don't even get ID'd at most of the places I go. I guess fakes are more rampant in the US where you need to be 21. I doubt it considering half my friends had fake ID's in high school. | ||
Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
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JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:13 Kimaker wrote: I don't even use a fake. Just walk in like you belong there and you shouldn't get shit, if they card you then just casually hand it to them. Half of working a fake is acting like it's routine. That. My friend who is underage got carded, she gave her real ID as if it was natural, the guy only checked the year (she were going to be old enough in 3 months) and let her in. | ||
Brethern
231 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:16 eXigent. wrote: Man I went to a strip club when I was 20 (In Canada) with my legit ID, and because I had lost 50ish lbs the guy totally didnt believe it was me, refused to let me enter, and wanted to keep my ID and destroy it. Was totally retarded. My ID's pic is of my when I was 18. I'm 23 | ||
moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
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6kies
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:13 Kimaker wrote: I don't even use a fake. Just walk in like you belong there and you shouldn't get shit, if they card you then just casually hand it to them. Half of working a fake is acting like it's routine. Yes. Does the fake have your picture on it? That helps. Some clubs just look really closely at the holograms, will compare the eyes etc. and it might just not work. So act natural, know what's on it, and hope for the best. Edit: And every bar is used to seeing fakes. You won't probably go to jail if you fail, just not be allowed in. But there are obviously legal risks. | ||
SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Amazing first post. I've known plenty of people throughout college who had fake IDs. Like others have said, be sure to know your age (not just birth DATE, YEARS FOO!), and relax. If you're super nervous it throws off signals. As long as where you are doesn't use machine scanners and is hand checking them, knowing the info on the card inside and out should cut it for you. | ||
Thacis
United States10 Posts
If you must drink get your parents to get it for you and drink at home and stay there. It's cheaper and safer that way. | ||
Yorke
England881 Posts
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Moldwood
United States280 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. | ||
Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
The places my friends use it are places where they don't scan it, and sometimes don't even bother to ask for ID. Also, if you're using one, be sure to know the information printed on it (ifyour name/area code/etc are different) because I know a few people who have been asked their area codes or addresses because the cashier suspected it was fake. An alternative that works is to use a real ID of someone who looks like you and is over 21, though only a few of my friends use this because it's a lot more difficult to obtain. | ||
SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:51 Moldwood wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. More like he made a new account because he knew how stupid his opinion was -_- Those silly europeans letting their silly young 18 year olds drink alcohol, place must be a mess. | ||
SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:53 Shaetan wrote: Friend of mine got busted when they asked what her horoscope sign was. She got busted because of the way she acted when the question was asked, not because she didn't know what her horoscope sign was. | ||
Zerste
United States112 Posts
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Stenstyren
Sweden619 Posts
Know what horoscope sign you have and how old you are supposed to be. Mostly, just appear calm, like you do this everyday. | ||
SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
Sure, not every bouncer is a genius at reading people, and you don't have to be either. It just takes basic knowledge and experience and you learn the classic signs of a kid with a fake ID. The question doesn't matter, it's how you respond to the question that will give you away, not that you didn't know the answer. | ||
TranceStorm
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:56 SafeAsCheese wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:51 Moldwood wrote: On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. More like he made a new account because he knew how stupid his opinion was -_- Those silly europeans letting their silly young 18 year olds drink alcohol, place must be a mess. In DK you can buy beer at age 16 in shops, 18 for harder liquor and to go to bars... It is public knowledge that thursday = 16 year olds in every single bar, some places even 14 year olds. And really, it isn't that bad of a mess ^^ Personally I've never been ID'ed (even when I was 16, then again I didn't go to bars too often), yet my 8 years older sister (who is now 30) gets ID'ed EVERY single time without fault - which is pretty hilarious ![]() | ||
FreshNoThyme
United States356 Posts
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
Don't be nervous or unsure even if you are, the key thing is to be cool. | ||
SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On July 08 2011 09:10 TranceStorm wrote: Hahaha, I know people who've tried to get 'passports' from other nations so that they aren't checked out as fully. Suffice to say, it rarely ever works. That doesn't make any sense at all. I'm getting the impression that people are going through an unnecessary and needless amount of effort in order to get a fake ID. Why bother with that when you can just keep all the information EXACTLY the same, and just change your age by two or three digits? You already know everything about you, and the bouncer doesn't know how old you really are because you've never met him before. If I made a fake ID, it would have exactly my details on it and I would be one or two years older. If you're 19 and it says you're 21 the bouncer can't tell the difference by just looking at you. If it's a fake ID and they catch you they'll either keep you there until it's confirmed to be real and they let you go or they keep you there and you get arrested (or whatever they do) for having a fake ID. Why would I go through the unnecessary headache of having to study my fake ID when I already know myself and now I'm magically just a bit older. What high school did you graduate from? You say the school you're currently going to. What did you study? You say what you're studying now. What college do you go to? I don't go to college, I work in a grocery store. Can someone educate me on the logic behind becoming "another person" on the fake ID? Because I can't understand it. If you get caught you're fucked either way, even if your name isn't really McLovin. | ||
ranshaked
United States870 Posts
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LuckstYle
Germany181 Posts
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6kies
2 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:56 SafeAsCheese wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:51 Moldwood wrote: On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. More like he made a new account because he knew how stupid his opinion was -_- Those silly europeans letting their silly young 18 year olds drink alcohol, place must be a mess. lol? Does it matter if I have 1 post or 1000, or what my first post is? My opinion is retarded because I don't think underage kids should go to clubs? Ya okay guys encourage this kid to break the law. You guys are cool. If you're mad about the law and disagree why don't you go do something about it. Until then the law still stands and what that kid is trying to do is illegal. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 08 2011 11:09 6kies wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:56 SafeAsCheese wrote: On July 08 2011 08:51 Moldwood wrote: On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. More like he made a new account because he knew how stupid his opinion was -_- Those silly europeans letting their silly young 18 year olds drink alcohol, place must be a mess. lol? Does it matter if I have 1 post or 1000, or what my first post is? My opinion is retarded because I don't think underage kids should go to clubs? Ya okay guys encourage this kid to break the law. You guys are cool. If you're mad about the law and disagree why don't you go do something about it. Until then the law still stands and what that kid is trying to do is illegal. Yeah, a beer is too much responsibility before 21, but carrying a gun in a foreign country with an American flag on your shoulder? No problem. As long as the kid is willing to take the consequences if he gets caught, it's his decision. | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
Really, in all seriousness, bars and strip clubs aren't worth it. It's a question of risk vs. benefit, and the benefit doesn't outweigh the potential consequences. Assuming you are intelligent, wise, and reasonable enough not to do something ridiculously stupid like drive drunk, you're probably smart enough to figure out that there's really not much fun to be had other than getting drunk. | ||
Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On July 08 2011 11:09 6kies wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:56 SafeAsCheese wrote: On July 08 2011 08:51 Moldwood wrote: On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. More like he made a new account because he knew how stupid his opinion was -_- Those silly europeans letting their silly young 18 year olds drink alcohol, place must be a mess. lol? Does it matter if I have 1 post or 1000, or what my first post is? My opinion is retarded because I don't think underage kids should go to clubs? Ya okay guys encourage this kid to break the law. You guys are cool. If you're mad about the law and disagree why don't you go do something about it. Until then the law still stands and what that kid is trying to do is illegal. "Doing something about it" includes getting a fake ID. If you're 19, chances are you can't single-handedly change the law in a convenient amount of time (as in well before you're 21). One opinion is that every law is correct and should be followed. The wrong opinion that is. And people are doing plenty to warn him of the consequences, and I'm sure he knows them. I don't think anyone has endorsed breaking the law, just discussed the risks, implications, consequences, what to expect when doing it, etc. Notice there is a thread here called "High Thread" and that is likewise about something illegal. | ||
Deja Thoris
South Africa646 Posts
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
Enforcement varies greatly from place to place, so there's no way to be sure. They might not even care. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8908 Posts
On July 08 2011 07:45 DiiD wrote: If this thread gets closed I suppose I understand, I'm just looking for some helpful feedback regarding a new fake ID I just got. I'm looking to go to bars and I know of plenty of my friends who have been tricked by the bouncers with questions they ask. My question for you is what sorts of questions should I be prepared for? Here are the ones I know already: 1. Obviously the info on the ID 2. Year I graduated from high school 3. What high school I attended 4. Capital of the state I'm "from" 5. What year in college I'm in I appreciate any help you guys can give me! honestly none of that information matters except for the information on your fake id and MAYBE the state capital. i can't imagine someone being a dick enough to question your HS information bc when i entered college i was 17 - i was a late birthday. my sister, however is going to be almost 19 when she enters school. assuming information about their graduation date, college year, etc is retarded and unreliable at telling a person's "real" age. it is, however, their bar so bouncers can do whatever and are allowed to deny access if im not mistaken. in my own personal experience, they tend to turn away people with a clean id - as in it doesnt look weathered. my advice for this would be to throw it in the dirt and step on it..makeup also works (i had some girls in my dorm throw some foundation on it so it looked used). the one worry i always had was a bouncer bending the id or peeling it. sure enough it happened when i was 20 and alas, had to wait a year to go to another bar since i couldnt justify dropping money on a new id :/ | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 08 2011 11:28 Deja Thoris wrote: I personally think its more about the demeanour and how convincing and mature you act and look. If you look like some shifty, sweaty teen then you will be scrutinized. Then it won't matter what questions they ask, if you are flustered you will mess up. I got carded when I was 30 in the US ![]() My facial hair refuses to grow in well on the sides, so if I haven't trimmed my goatee recently, I'm more likely to get carded. I get carded more if I haven't had a haircut recently as well. Of course, I also get carded about 5x more for cigarettes than I do for alcohol... | ||
KomradeKevin
United States88 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:13 Kimaker wrote: I don't even use a fake. Just walk in like you belong there and you shouldn't get shit, if they card you then just casually hand it to them. Half of working a fake is acting like it's routine. I am 24 now and still get carded everywhere I go. I am just not a smooth person. It must not look routine to others. | ||
weaknurse
Australia320 Posts
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fiveop
Germany14 Posts
Here in Germany one is allowed to buy and drink in public from the age of 16 (wine, beer, etc.) or 18 (distilled, i.e. hard, stuff and mixed beverages). In private there are no restrictions, so having a beer at your fathers 40th when your 10 or something is not a problem by law. I don't think we have a problem with alcohol in Germany, so I'm fine with the regulations. In fact, I've been to England for a year and there you're allowed to buy everything starting from 18. This coincides with the time when most students get to university and are the first time in a new pretty unsupervised environment (no parents in sight). And I had the impression, that this led to drinking way more then you could or should. And taking this thread as some evidence, I'm pretty sure that a legal drinking age of 21 just leads people to trying to find ways to get to it earlier in illegal ways. | ||
Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Krivvan
Canada18 Posts
![]() That being said, if a bouncer asked you that couldn't you just answer that you don't know? Seems more confident than sitting there looking baffled. | ||
Detwiler
United States239 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. This. Do you know how many people are goin to lose their job when your dumbass gets drunk and gets arrested? Just get your drinks and go to sumbodys house you will have a better time. | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
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BlizzrdSlave
161 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:53 Shaetan wrote: Friend of mine got busted when they asked what her horoscope sign was. Pff, I would've told them off, I barely know what mine is. | ||
Razith
Canada431 Posts
Memorize the information on the card. If they ask you a dumb question like 'whats your horoscope', don't be an idiot and panic like this is a test you have to pass to get in, just stay calm and say "Whatever _________ (month) is." You have a valid I.D. (or what appears to be lol) and that is enough; you don't need to play 20 questions. You guys fail when you think you have to play these stupid mind games with the bouncer. This is how they get you; they know the only ones who won't be like "WTF screw off" are the underage kids who panic. But this doesn't mean be rude, just be assertive. If a bouncer asked me for my birthday, sure I'll give it to him. But if he starts playing these dumb mind games, I'd simply say "whats the point of all this? you have my card; all the information is there". | ||
SecondChance
Australia603 Posts
$500 fine later, this was not a wise choice. Gl | ||
Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
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decafchicken
United States19989 Posts
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chaokel
Australia535 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:53 Shaetan wrote: Friend of mine got busted when they asked what her horoscope sign was. They do that a lot over here in australia, not sure if it translates to overseas but i would memorise it anyway. | ||
Playguuu
United States926 Posts
From what I remember it will expire on their 25th birthday, so if that's off you might want to consider not using it. I don't know why you can't just wait though. Drinking is fun when you're 17 | ||
Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
I already fairly "cheap" when it comes to money... wasting money on alcohol, especially in a bar, just doesn't seem to bring much value that fun goodies and toys do (games, gadgets, computers, etc -- and yeah, tastes vary, but still.. some do music, clothes, photography, art, furniture, cars... it goes on). Even when i was in highschool, it didn't even cross my mind, though granted none of my friends ever went "out" either, it was just much better to do stuff at each other's houses, and it still didn't involve drinking. It's all just the fun and games of peer pressure, either put on by "friends", who may not have your best interests in mind, or society at large, in which case, you aren't making decisions for yourself anymore. If anything, i believe that most of the actions taken while under the influence is largely under your control, its a placebo that gives you the excuse to act stupid, even though you have every ability to not... I am certainly aware that it degrades your mental status, alcohol is a 'poison' / depressant afterall, but not in that way.. the drunk driving way when you want to fall asleep and cannot focus. but in the end, everyone can do whatever they want, just be ready to accept the consequences of your actions (both good and bad). | ||
dogmeatstew
Canada574 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:53 Shaetan wrote: Friend of mine got busted when they asked what her horoscope sign was. sketch. I don't know or care what mine is and if someone asked me that when trying to get into a club I'd ask the bouncer how his panties were feeling today. On July 08 2011 08:16 eXigent. wrote: Man I went to a strip club when I was 20 (In Canada) with my legit ID, and because I had lost 50ish lbs the guy totally didnt believe it was me, refused to let me enter, and wanted to keep my ID and destroy it. Was totally retarded. I get stuff like this every now and again, I have a Saskatchewan ID as thats where my families "official" residence is right now but I'm at uni in Alberta so every now and again I get someone questioning my out of province ID and telling me its fake... As terrible as it sounds, in my experience if you indicate to them that they're fucking retarded because they assume that out of province ID's are fake they let you go... they really have no idea what its supposed to look like anyways so... Also if a bouncer destroyed your legit ID he would be in sooooo much shit... On July 08 2011 09:14 Ghostcom wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:56 SafeAsCheese wrote: On July 08 2011 08:51 Moldwood wrote: On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. Seriously though, what the hell?! It's as if this guy made a TL account cuz he just HAD to make this comment. In my opinion (as well as personal experience)the years between 17 and 21 rarely give you the experience / proper judgement which the law pretends magically instills within you the day you turn 21. In short, I know a few people under 21 who would N - E - V - E - R drive while drunk, and meanwhile i know 3 people who have over 10 DUIs between them and they STILL fucking do it every weekend. Two of these people are 25 years old and the other is like 33. There IS a reason you have to be 21, sure, it's the law. Is there a GOOD reason? Debatable. Poor first post is poor. More like he made a new account because he knew how stupid his opinion was -_- Those silly europeans letting their silly young 18 year olds drink alcohol, place must be a mess. In DK you can buy beer at age 16 in shops, 18 for harder liquor and to go to bars... It is public knowledge that thursday = 16 year olds in every single bar, some places even 14 year olds. And really, it isn't that bad of a mess ^^ Personally I've never been ID'ed (even when I was 16, then again I didn't go to bars too often), yet my 8 years older sister (who is now 30) gets ID'ed EVERY single time without fault - which is pretty hilarious ![]() It's called checking to see if she's in my age range ![]() I know lots of people who have used siblings ID's and such to get into places although as the drinking age here is 18 its not nearly as big of an issue... | ||
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
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brain_
United States812 Posts
On July 09 2011 02:47 Mysticesper wrote: I'm probably in the minority, but I've never understood what the rush is. I've never been into a bar, much less drank much of anything other than an occasional beer (and that was last summer) until just this last semester (spring semester, im 23), and it really didn't seem all that exciting, I dunno. It seemed no different than going out with people at a different location. I've never been asked funny questions, i just take it out of my wallet, hand it to them, and life goes on. I already fairly "cheap" when it comes to money... wasting money on alcohol, especially in a bar, just doesn't seem to bring much value that fun goodies and toys do (games, gadgets, computers, etc -- and yeah, tastes vary, but still.. some do music, clothes, photography, art, furniture, cars... it goes on). Even when i was in highschool, it didn't even cross my mind, though granted none of my friends ever went "out" either, it was just much better to do stuff at each other's houses, and it still didn't involve drinking. It's all just the fun and games of peer pressure, either put on by "friends", who may not have your best interests in mind, or society at large, in which case, you aren't making decisions for yourself anymore. If anything, i believe that most of the actions taken while under the influence is largely under your control, its a placebo that gives you the excuse to act stupid, even though you have every ability to not... I am certainly aware that it degrades your mental status, alcohol is a 'poison' / depressant afterall, but not in that way.. the drunk driving way when you want to fall asleep and cannot focus. but in the end, everyone can do whatever they want, just be ready to accept the consequences of your actions (both good and bad). There are basically three reasons to drink: 1) Social lubricant, buzz, relaxing, etc... Barely any _young_ people actually drink for this reason, even though it is the "best" reason to drink, and usually goes along with moderation. 2) Excuse to be a shitfaced moron 3) Girls will have sex with people they barely know when they're drunk #2 and #3 are basically frats in a nutshell, lol. One or the other is almost always behind young people drinking. | ||
dogmeatstew
Canada574 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:00 BobMcJohnson wrote: I may sound ignorant but, you peoples are saying that you cant drink alcohol/get into clubs before 21 in the US? o_O Correct... sadly, as I've always said it basically just adds a few more years of underage drinking... | ||
hytonight
303 Posts
On July 08 2011 09:03 Zerste wrote: What's the 'V' in your middle name stand for? Victor? Too bad it says here it's an 'H'. i laughed so hard at this.... | ||
MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:10 MozzarellaL wrote: This kid on my floor in college freshman year got black out drunk and went to the hospital. All he was carrying was his fake ID and his real ID, he woke up to the doctors screaming at him "WHO ARE YOU?" Wow dumb doctors lol... obviously he's 21 and has a fake that says he's 17. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:21 lolsixtynine wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 03:10 MozzarellaL wrote: This kid on my floor in college freshman year got black out drunk and went to the hospital. All he was carrying was his fake ID and his real ID, he woke up to the doctors screaming at him "WHO ARE YOU?" Wow dumb doctors lol... obviously he's 21 and has a fake that says he's 17. I was about to say this, and then realized that certain people might actually... what if he was found passed out near a high school prom, for example? That 17 fake might be handy... | ||
lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:25 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 03:21 lolsixtynine wrote: On July 09 2011 03:10 MozzarellaL wrote: This kid on my floor in college freshman year got black out drunk and went to the hospital. All he was carrying was his fake ID and his real ID, he woke up to the doctors screaming at him "WHO ARE YOU?" Wow dumb doctors lol... obviously he's 21 and has a fake that says he's 17. I was about to say this, and then realized that certain people might actually... what if he was found passed out near a high school prom, for example? That 17 fake might be handy... In an over/under bet on the number of people who have ever paid 60$+ for an id to look younger for such a reason, I would set the line at 3. I think it's enough to go with the odds on this one. Can't imagine why it was so important that they were delaying medical care to ask his name though. | ||
Vetrocide
Norway600 Posts
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KangaRuthless
United States304 Posts
If they ask for further ID, tell them you only brought your ID and some cash. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:28 lolsixtynine wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 03:25 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 03:21 lolsixtynine wrote: On July 09 2011 03:10 MozzarellaL wrote: This kid on my floor in college freshman year got black out drunk and went to the hospital. All he was carrying was his fake ID and his real ID, he woke up to the doctors screaming at him "WHO ARE YOU?" Wow dumb doctors lol... obviously he's 21 and has a fake that says he's 17. I was about to say this, and then realized that certain people might actually... what if he was found passed out near a high school prom, for example? That 17 fake might be handy... In an over/under bet on the number of people who have ever paid 60$+ for an id to look younger for such a reason, I would set the line at 3. I think it's enough to go with the odds on this one. Can't imagine why it was so important that they were delaying medical care to ask his name though. I agree entirely there's probably a lot less of those, and certainly not enough to expect it, but actually depending on what's on the ID, it could matter a lot. Don't know what all various places stick on their ID's though. | ||
MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:28 lolsixtynine wrote: I think it's enough to go with the odds on this one. Can't imagine why it was so important that they were delaying medical care to ask his name though. They weren't withholding medical care...just screamed at him when he woke up. Probably had something to do with laws requiring hospitals to report shit to proper authorities or something, I don't know. Just thought it was pretty funny. Another time, another guy on my floor was out at a nearby restaurant and a plainclothes police officer saw him using a fake, so he went over to look at it and the dude ran from the restaurant and hid in his room, 30 minutes later cops showed up and arrested him. | ||
br0fivE
Canada349 Posts
On July 08 2011 07:48 3clipse wrote: You really get put through that sort of shit? I don't even get ID'd at most of the places I go. I guess fakes are more rampant in the US where you need to be 21. in canada, every club ids. atleast every canada inn clubs. You must be talking about a pub. the op wants to go2 clubs i do believe | ||
Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Also don't look like an obvious oily faced teen. They aren't going to report you with a fake ID, they'll just deny service. Just leave. | ||
JamesJohansen
United States213 Posts
1.Know the information on there. If its a good fake, as long as you can confidently relay that info in response to questions, your golden. 2. Confidence is very important. Act pissed off when they question it, get annoyed when they seem suspicious. Act comfortable. Be 21. 3. My ID could scan so my back up plan was to tell them to fucking scan it and quit playing games. Having a good backup plan never hurts. 4. If your caught, be cool about it but focus on getting your ID back no matter what. I got caught a number of times but was able to be friendly about it and got my ID back until I fucked up in a liquor store when I was 20. I still was able to be friendly with the clerk so he didn't report me. It mostly boils down to people skills. Knowing when to put on an act and how to back out of bad situations and KEEPING YOUR COOL are most vital to having a fake ID Edit: Also, bars are expensive when your under 21 and don't have much disposable income. Its far cheaper to buy a 30 rack and get shitfaced with a few friends | ||
annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
Eye colour. Lots of people match hair colour without making sure the eye colour is believable, this happens a lot with people passing IDs to one another, impossible to check for if it's a proper fake ID, by which I mean your picture with information that isn't yours. Postal/ZIP Code. Know it, and be able to deliver it fast. If you're slow and stuttering it won't work, if you think you won't be able to do this then think up a back story which could potentially explain why you don't know or are slow delivering you ZIP code. "I just moved here and haven't memorized it yet". It probably won't work but it's a better shot than nothing. Same goes for middle name. Make sure you can pronouce your last name. (lol) as a bouncer you see a lot of names and get a general sence as to how they are pronounced. example: Eucher is pronoucnced U-Ker and not Uch-er or U-cher, and certainly not - as one guy tried to convince me - pronounced E-UK-er Best advice is both posts above mine, be the part, look the part | ||
Alderan
United States463 Posts
On July 09 2011 03:00 brain_ wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 02:47 Mysticesper wrote: I'm probably in the minority, but I've never understood what the rush is. I've never been into a bar, much less drank much of anything other than an occasional beer (and that was last summer) until just this last semester (spring semester, im 23), and it really didn't seem all that exciting, I dunno. It seemed no different than going out with people at a different location. I've never been asked funny questions, i just take it out of my wallet, hand it to them, and life goes on. I already fairly "cheap" when it comes to money... wasting money on alcohol, especially in a bar, just doesn't seem to bring much value that fun goodies and toys do (games, gadgets, computers, etc -- and yeah, tastes vary, but still.. some do music, clothes, photography, art, furniture, cars... it goes on). Even when i was in highschool, it didn't even cross my mind, though granted none of my friends ever went "out" either, it was just much better to do stuff at each other's houses, and it still didn't involve drinking. It's all just the fun and games of peer pressure, either put on by "friends", who may not have your best interests in mind, or society at large, in which case, you aren't making decisions for yourself anymore. If anything, i believe that most of the actions taken while under the influence is largely under your control, its a placebo that gives you the excuse to act stupid, even though you have every ability to not... I am certainly aware that it degrades your mental status, alcohol is a 'poison' / depressant afterall, but not in that way.. the drunk driving way when you want to fall asleep and cannot focus. but in the end, everyone can do whatever they want, just be ready to accept the consequences of your actions (both good and bad). There are basically three reasons to drink: 1) Social lubricant, buzz, relaxing, etc... Barely any _young_ people actually drink for this reason, even though it is the "best" reason to drink, and usually goes along with moderation. 2) Excuse to be a shitfaced moron 3) Girls will have sex with people they barely know when they're drunk #2 and #3 are basically frats in a nutshell, lol. One or the other is almost always behind young people drinking. I don't think you have a very good grasp of fraternity life.... That being said, where I'm from they don't ask you anything but "Let me see another form of ID". If you have one you're almost golden. At least in Athens. Once when I was out of town trying to get into a bar a little bit too drunk the guy asked me my address, and I spouted out every piece of info on the card, date of birth, expiration date, everything. What a fail. | ||
GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 08 2011 07:54 Hakker wrote: If your going to a place that has bouncers you might as well not even try depending on the scale of the place. Many have scanners/ tags that would be very hard to replicate by some basement ID copier. My friend trained as a security guard and a huge part of the course is basically recognizing fake ids on the spot. I just got back from Vegas and they didn't even use scanners... I think if Vegas doesn't bother, most places wont. Just turned 21, and I was asked a lot of those questions as well even though they were all legit answers lol. | ||
Aelip
Denmark321 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
And occasionally people will get in trouble with a fake ID. Remember George Bush's daughter? | ||
SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
I don't know the laws regarding this in the US, but be careful. Have fun ![]() | ||
Pigsquirrel
United States615 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
As soon as I turn 21, I'm gonna go to a bar with a (real) ID with a shitty photo of me, fumble my info, have a shitty story, and mispronounce my last name. Cops come, ID is legit, apply trollface. ...To waste an hour of your life and get kicked out of the bar anyway? irl doing shit that makes you wanna "apply trollface" gets you thrown out / beat up / arrested, unless you get away with it of course =) | ||
TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:21 Pigsquirrel wrote: As soon as I turn 21, I'm gonna go to a bar with a (real) ID with a shitty photo of me, fumble my info, have a shitty story, and mispronounce my last name. Cops come, ID is legit, apply trollface. Pretty sure they can find a law that violates if they want to. | ||
malady
United States600 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really is a better idea to just drink at home. | ||
JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really for the cops? Here in Canada, worst thing that I've seen/heard of was just being denied the right to enter in the bar. | ||
NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:31 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really is a better idea to just drink at home. Last year my friend got busted for having a fake ID. He had 400$ worth of liquor in his car for a party and anyways, he had no problem buying it or anything but he got pulled over at some random ass police road block random search or whatever and they confiscated all of the liquor, took his fake ID and he had to go to court.. I forget how much the fine was but if you can't pull it off then don't try to. It isn't worth it. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:32 JeanBob wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really for the cops? Here in Canada, worst thing that I've seen/heard of was just being denied the right to enter in the bar. Well, a lot of places in America, it's a good idea to have cops near the bar anyways... Lets just say that people who are over 21 aren't always so good at making decisions under the influence of alcohol either. I still don't get why the law said I could be deployed in the Army at 18, but not drink a beer until 21. | ||
JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:37 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:32 JeanBob wrote: On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really for the cops? Here in Canada, worst thing that I've seen/heard of was just being denied the right to enter in the bar. Well, a lot of places in America, it's a good idea to have cops near the bar anyways... Lets just say that people who are over 21 aren't always so good at making decisions under the influence of alcohol either. I still don't get why the law said I could be deployed in the Army at 18, but not drink a beer until 21. Yeah, I see what you mean. Already heard about many bars which had to call the police for fights or stuff like that. | ||
Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:41 JeanBob wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:37 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 04:32 JeanBob wrote: On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really for the cops? Here in Canada, worst thing that I've seen/heard of was just being denied the right to enter in the bar. Well, a lot of places in America, it's a good idea to have cops near the bar anyways... Lets just say that people who are over 21 aren't always so good at making decisions under the influence of alcohol either. I still don't get why the law said I could be deployed in the Army at 18, but not drink a beer until 21. Yeah, I see what you mean. Already heard about many bars which had to call the police for fights or stuff like that. Between that and people forgetting to bring a designated driver, yeah. | ||
Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
I turn 21 in like 4 months. | ||
GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 09 2011 04:41 JeanBob wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 04:37 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 04:32 JeanBob wrote: On July 09 2011 04:30 malady wrote: On July 09 2011 04:26 TOCHMY wrote: wow are they really this hard in USA about getting in to clubs? Jeez the bouncers ive met either dont look at all or just doesnt care:o yup =( most clubs have cops waiting at the door so if you get caught consider your self in hand cuffs too i would only do it at some chill establishment like a hookah bar or you can just wait till your 21 like everyone else and drink at your friends house Really for the cops? Here in Canada, worst thing that I've seen/heard of was just being denied the right to enter in the bar. Well, a lot of places in America, it's a good idea to have cops near the bar anyways... Lets just say that people who are over 21 aren't always so good at making decisions under the influence of alcohol either. I still don't get why the law said I could be deployed in the Army at 18, but not drink a beer until 21. Yeah, I see what you mean. Already heard about many bars which had to call the police for fights or stuff like that. Funny you say that, I have been to bars since I was 19 and never had a fight or a problem. The day I turn 21 we went to Vegas to celebrate and I get into a fight and 3 almost fights... I don't even know why, I seriously don't think any of those were my fault lol. | ||
Ryndika
1489 Posts
But tbh I'm not interested even going into bars and clubs so guess it doesn't even matter. :D GL getting into bar underaged. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. This is an absurd post lol | ||
SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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Eben
United States769 Posts
Never any of these how old are you? what year for highschool grad? Maybe it's just the area that I am from. | ||
Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On July 08 2011 07:55 Gene wrote: why would you be asked where you graduated from? If you got a fake id you should have been from a far away town where the bouncer would have no idea about that kind of information. but yeah i was never even ID'd One thing that sadly catches some people by surprise is how old you "are." you can repeat all you want that your birthday is 7-11-1988 but how old does that makes you? dumbass friend of mine lost that one pretty bad. Oh lol, a friend of mine got caught that way trying to get into a coffee shop :D | ||
S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On July 08 2011 18:01 Detwiler wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. This. Do you know how many people are goin to lose their job when your dumbass gets drunk and gets arrested? Just get your drinks and go to sumbodys house you will have a better time. Uh huh, because if you get drunk you WILL get arrested and random people who had nothing to do with that will lose your job. Come on guys, you're hurting eSports here. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:07 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 18:01 Detwiler wrote: On July 08 2011 08:35 6kies wrote: I hope you get caught with your fake id and go to jail. There are reasons why you have to be 21 to enter bars/clubs. This. Do you know how many people are goin to lose their job when your dumbass gets drunk and gets arrested? Just get your drinks and go to sumbodys house you will have a better time. Uh huh, because if you get drunk you WILL get arrested and random people who had nothing to do with that will lose your job. Come on guys, you're hurting eSports here. Depending on local laws, an establishment can get closed down or lose liquor licenses for serving to minors. Those can cost jobs. I think that argument wasn't the best one for the case, but your response is pretty uninformed. | ||
S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:15 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Yes, I know that can happen, I'm not an idiot. But implying that using fake ideas to drink/get drunk (which is what they are for) will undoubtedly cost people jobs is pretty stupid and completely false. No, assuming that they won't is stupid and uninformed. Someone going about drinking underage in a smart and responsible way would be doing it at home, which doesn't require a fake ID, since you can just have a friend get it for you. If you're not being smart and responsible, you can easily get caught and get the establishment in trouble. | ||
S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:27 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 08:15 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Yes, I know that can happen, I'm not an idiot. But implying that using fake ideas to drink/get drunk (which is what they are for) will undoubtedly cost people jobs is pretty stupid and completely false. No, assuming that they won't is stupid and uninformed. Someone going about drinking underage in a smart and responsible way would be doing it at home, which doesn't require a fake ID, since you can just have a friend get it for you. If you're not being smart and responsible, you can easily get caught and get the establishment in trouble. No, that's false and I'm not saying you should assume it WON'T happen, I'm saying you shouldn't assume it WILL happen. Those are two completely different things. Do you know how many people use fake IDs compared to the number of establishments that get shut down because they serve to minors? I'd say the ratio is upwards of 1000:1. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:33 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 08:27 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 08:15 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Yes, I know that can happen, I'm not an idiot. But implying that using fake ideas to drink/get drunk (which is what they are for) will undoubtedly cost people jobs is pretty stupid and completely false. No, assuming that they won't is stupid and uninformed. Someone going about drinking underage in a smart and responsible way would be doing it at home, which doesn't require a fake ID, since you can just have a friend get it for you. If you're not being smart and responsible, you can easily get caught and get the establishment in trouble. No, that's false and I'm not saying you should assume it WON'T happen, I'm saying you shouldn't assume it WILL happen. Those are two completely different things. Do you know how many people use fake IDs compared to the number of establishments that get shut down because they serve to minors? I'd say the ratio is upwards of 1000:1. Show me a source for your numbers, or I'll just assume they're made up. Oh wait, they are. I'd bet they're not even close. Like I said, the argument itself is one of the worst ones for not using a fake ID, but saying that it doesn't, won't, or isn't likely to happen is ridiculous. I've seen tons of bars closed down temporarily or long term due to underage drinking. Just because you don't always hear it getting sensationalized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Google search for any set of terms related to bar closures for underage drinking that you can think of. Tons and tons of results, with tons and tons of incidents. | ||
S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:43 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 08:33 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: On July 09 2011 08:27 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 08:15 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Yes, I know that can happen, I'm not an idiot. But implying that using fake ideas to drink/get drunk (which is what they are for) will undoubtedly cost people jobs is pretty stupid and completely false. No, assuming that they won't is stupid and uninformed. Someone going about drinking underage in a smart and responsible way would be doing it at home, which doesn't require a fake ID, since you can just have a friend get it for you. If you're not being smart and responsible, you can easily get caught and get the establishment in trouble. No, that's false and I'm not saying you should assume it WON'T happen, I'm saying you shouldn't assume it WILL happen. Those are two completely different things. Do you know how many people use fake IDs compared to the number of establishments that get shut down because they serve to minors? I'd say the ratio is upwards of 1000:1. Show me a source for your numbers, or I'll just assume they're made up. Oh wait, they are. I'd bet they're not even close. Like I said, the argument itself is one of the worst ones for not using a fake ID, but saying that it doesn't, won't, or isn't likely to happen is ridiculous. I've seen tons of bars closed down temporarily or long term due to underage drinking. Just because you don't always hear it getting sensationalized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Google search for any set of terms related to bar closures for underage drinking that you can think of. Tons and tons of results, with tons and tons of incidents. Yes that's great, and those results are spread out all over the years and all over the world. Yeah, it's a made up number, big whoop, ya got me. But you can't deny that thousands of people use fake IDs and they are never caught and the bars are never shut down. Look, I never said it never happens, and it's pretty stupid/sad when someone irresponsible uses a fake ID and gets a whole establishment in trouble, my point was that, like I've said twice now, it's stupid to assume that it WILL happen when a fake ID is used? Can you at least accept that? Seems pretty simple to me. | ||
JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:55 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 08:43 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 08:33 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: On July 09 2011 08:27 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 08:15 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Yes, I know that can happen, I'm not an idiot. But implying that using fake ideas to drink/get drunk (which is what they are for) will undoubtedly cost people jobs is pretty stupid and completely false. No, assuming that they won't is stupid and uninformed. Someone going about drinking underage in a smart and responsible way would be doing it at home, which doesn't require a fake ID, since you can just have a friend get it for you. If you're not being smart and responsible, you can easily get caught and get the establishment in trouble. No, that's false and I'm not saying you should assume it WON'T happen, I'm saying you shouldn't assume it WILL happen. Those are two completely different things. Do you know how many people use fake IDs compared to the number of establishments that get shut down because they serve to minors? I'd say the ratio is upwards of 1000:1. Show me a source for your numbers, or I'll just assume they're made up. Oh wait, they are. I'd bet they're not even close. Like I said, the argument itself is one of the worst ones for not using a fake ID, but saying that it doesn't, won't, or isn't likely to happen is ridiculous. I've seen tons of bars closed down temporarily or long term due to underage drinking. Just because you don't always hear it getting sensationalized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Google search for any set of terms related to bar closures for underage drinking that you can think of. Tons and tons of results, with tons and tons of incidents. Yes that's great, and those results are spread out all over the years and all over the world. Yeah, it's a made up number, big whoop, ya got me. But you can't deny that thousands of people use fake IDs and they are never caught and the bars are never shut down. Look, I never said it never happens, and it's pretty stupid/sad when someone irresponsible uses a fake ID and gets a whole establishment in trouble, my point was that, like I've said twice now, it's stupid to assume that it WILL happen when a fake ID is used? Can you at least accept that? Seems pretty simple to me. No, because while it's anecdotal, I've seen it at least a hundred times in just a few years, which is quite a solid number. It's quite reasonable to understand the sort of consequences your actions can cause, even if it's silly to use that as an argument against using one. I'll deny that thousands of people never get caught, because there's not exactly reliable statistics on fake ID usage. I'd bet it's a lot less than you seem to think, because plenty of people are perfectly content not taking the risks associated with going out. | ||
Azuzu
United States340 Posts
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micronesia
United States24615 Posts
When I was in manhattan with some friends a few months ago this sorta happened to me... my ID was valid to get me into the bar and I look old enough for sure, but it's worth a shot :3 | ||
jtw1n
United States18 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:53 Shaetan wrote: Friend of mine got busted when they asked what her horoscope sign was. yea my girlfriends friend had that happen too, but honostly wtf... I dont know my horoscope sign that shits gay, If they took my id because of that I would be so pissed off. | ||
whiteguycash
United States476 Posts
In most college towns, bouncers are fellow college students, or washed up has-been athletes trying to live the dream of a college athlete which is no longer possible for them. | ||
Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On July 08 2011 17:36 Reason.SC2 wrote: I remember a friend of mine getting owned by a bouncer who asked her what her zodiac sign is. She knew all the other info on the ID but that ![]() I'm 23, legally able to buy alcohol and i barely know what my fucking zodiac sign is... How is that at all a relevant question.. who the fuck reads horoscopes? | ||
S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
On July 09 2011 09:00 JingleHell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 09 2011 08:55 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: On July 09 2011 08:43 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 08:33 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: On July 09 2011 08:27 JingleHell wrote: On July 09 2011 08:15 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: Yes, I know that can happen, I'm not an idiot. But implying that using fake ideas to drink/get drunk (which is what they are for) will undoubtedly cost people jobs is pretty stupid and completely false. No, assuming that they won't is stupid and uninformed. Someone going about drinking underage in a smart and responsible way would be doing it at home, which doesn't require a fake ID, since you can just have a friend get it for you. If you're not being smart and responsible, you can easily get caught and get the establishment in trouble. No, that's false and I'm not saying you should assume it WON'T happen, I'm saying you shouldn't assume it WILL happen. Those are two completely different things. Do you know how many people use fake IDs compared to the number of establishments that get shut down because they serve to minors? I'd say the ratio is upwards of 1000:1. Show me a source for your numbers, or I'll just assume they're made up. Oh wait, they are. I'd bet they're not even close. Like I said, the argument itself is one of the worst ones for not using a fake ID, but saying that it doesn't, won't, or isn't likely to happen is ridiculous. I've seen tons of bars closed down temporarily or long term due to underage drinking. Just because you don't always hear it getting sensationalized doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Google search for any set of terms related to bar closures for underage drinking that you can think of. Tons and tons of results, with tons and tons of incidents. Yes that's great, and those results are spread out all over the years and all over the world. Yeah, it's a made up number, big whoop, ya got me. But you can't deny that thousands of people use fake IDs and they are never caught and the bars are never shut down. Look, I never said it never happens, and it's pretty stupid/sad when someone irresponsible uses a fake ID and gets a whole establishment in trouble, my point was that, like I've said twice now, it's stupid to assume that it WILL happen when a fake ID is used? Can you at least accept that? Seems pretty simple to me. No, because while it's anecdotal, I've seen it at least a hundred times in just a few years, which is quite a solid number. It's quite reasonable to understand the sort of consequences your actions can cause, even if it's silly to use that as an argument against using one. I'll deny that thousands of people never get caught, because there's not exactly reliable statistics on fake ID usage. I'd bet it's a lot less than you seem to think, because plenty of people are perfectly content not taking the risks associated with going out. Okay, so you said I'm making numbers and now you're just making things up for the sake of arguing while not even talking about my main point, which I've said three times. I'm done. | ||
ZiegFeld
351 Posts
Just go to a bar with lenient bouncers, fake IDs are seriously more trouble than they're worth. | ||
SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:16 eXigent. wrote: Man I went to a strip club when I was 20 (In Canada) with my legit ID, and because I had lost 50ish lbs the guy totally didnt believe it was me, refused to let me enter, and wanted to keep my ID and destroy it. Was totally retarded. This is why you keep 2 pieces of ID from 2 different authorized sources. No way they can dispute you then. Especially if you have, 2 photo IDs, credit card, debit card all of you. If someone disputes you then, you ask to talk to the manager. | ||
Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On July 09 2011 10:00 Kashll wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 17:36 Reason.SC2 wrote: I remember a friend of mine getting owned by a bouncer who asked her what her zodiac sign is. She knew all the other info on the ID but that ![]() I'm 23, legally able to buy alcohol and i barely know what my fucking zodiac sign is... How is that at all a relevant question.. who the fuck reads horoscopes? the key word you used here is 'barely', implying that you do actually know your sign ![]() | ||
Ajnin
81 Posts
Try google. | ||
Mantraz
Norway119 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On July 08 2011 08:18 JeanBob wrote: Show nested quote + On July 08 2011 08:13 Kimaker wrote: I don't even use a fake. Just walk in like you belong there and you shouldn't get shit, if they card you then just casually hand it to them. Half of working a fake is acting like it's routine. That. My friend who is underage got carded, she gave her real ID as if it was natural, the guy only checked the year (she were going to be old enough in 3 months) and let her in. I used to do that and assume bouncers couldn't be bothered to do maths. Only once did they catch me out and had a bit of a laugh at me for trying...I came back 5 minutes later with a friend's ID. 'Weren't you here just now?' 'What? No, dude.' They let me right in. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW MOTHER FUCKERS. | ||
Lucko
United States48 Posts
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