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Please stop posting that he shouldn't have invited her into his bed since that's apparently not what happened... read the OP and links BEFORE commenting.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 05 2011 14:34 GMT
#61
To prove his innocence they need to sneak a 18stone consenting woman into his bed and see what happens...

Seriously though, it's quite a tragic story; I hope the girl isn't too traumatised.
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yosisoy
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel202 Posts
July 05 2011 14:36 GMT
#62
On July 05 2011 23:18 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 23:16 yosisoy wrote:
This condition is hilarious. Can I make up a condition where I kill people and forget about it? And then have my friends and family confirm that I indeed do that often?

And yes, this situation is retarded.


Do you understand that this is real condition? No one made up nothing. jesus christ how people can be stupid.


My made-up condition could be real too. Would it be cool with you if he murdered her in his sleep due to a condition?
You are responsible for your actions! Even if you are asleep!
If you do things in your sleep that harm others you are a danger to society and anyone around you should be notified of your condition.

Also, that should be no one made up anything.
In Soviet Russia, sorrow harvest you
Feyer
Profile Joined April 2011
Niger5 Posts
July 05 2011 14:37 GMT
#63
"who told this girl to sleep in a bed with a sexomniac?" Are you fucking kidding me? there is no such thing as a sexomniac.. I don't care if his retarded ex wife got used to being groped in her sleep... fucking bullshit. the only thing I wonder is if the girl struggled against this dude.. cause if she just laid there and a guy who was "asleep" had sex with her.. then it wasn't rape.
^^
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
July 05 2011 14:41 GMT
#64
Haha I've tried to have sex with my girlfriend while asleep, groping included. So no, it's not a made up condition. If people can drive cars while asleep they can certainly have sex.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
July 05 2011 14:42 GMT
#65
Yeah thats rape alright, doesn't matter if he was asleep or not had had sex with a girl against her will. Shit happens.
lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
July 05 2011 14:42 GMT
#66
On July 05 2011 23:19 Cyberspace1 wrote:
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On July 05 2011 23:13 qrs wrote:
On July 05 2011 22:57 Warble wrote:
On July 05 2011 22:51 teekesselchen wrote:
It's the major problem of all jurisdisdiction. Nobody can know what happened for sure, often enough not even victims and witnesses (beeing neutral, even towards oneself, can be an almost impossible, some would say always impossible, thing).

I think clearing the charges is, in general, the best way to go, even though it can be very cruel.
"I'ld rather let free a hundred criminals than punishing a single innocent" - I don't know where this quote comes from, but I always agreed with it.


The lack of witnesses is probably why nowadays rape cases don't need witnesses. So long as the act is confirmed (via admission or testing), if the alleged victim says it was not consensual and their testimony is found to be credible, it will generally result in a conviction.
Could you link to a source? It's not that I don't believe you, but I'd like to read more about that. The idea that a single person's word against another's is enough for conviction is deeply disturbing to me.


In most rape cases, there are usually zero witnesses except for the accused and the accuser. So more often than not it is one person's word over another.

Edit: Plus whatever evidence they can find...


There is usually a lot of evidence to suggest whether sex was consensual or not, bruises, tears in the vaginal wall, etc. It's very difficult to get someone convicted with zero evidence when it really is just one person's word. Innocent until proven guilty applies there.
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
July 05 2011 14:43 GMT
#67
On July 05 2011 23:26 Pika Chu wrote:
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On July 05 2011 23:13 Detwiler wrote:
wow rapists all across the world must be so pissed they didnt think of this. no wait seriously i just bang whatevers in my bed. no i dont wake up if they scream. how do i get there pants off? cant remember. you are free to go sir. WINNING.


For crying out loud, how ignorant can you be? The guy has a serious issue, read the OP and the following posts. So he can't be held responsable for it.

If a guy with mental issues kills someone, he can't be held accountable for it, that's why he's sent to treatment (or mental hospital) and not to jail. He isn't left at home because he's a danger. However this sexsomniac guy isn't a social danger, so he still can't be held accountable for what he did, since his issues are beyond his will, but doesn't deserve to be locked down in a psychiatric ward. It's not like he's going out and raping women (case in which he'd be a social danger), he's just doing it in his sleep with whoever is sharing his bed.


oh he has a condition huh. i have a condition too. my doctor says its best treated with weed. i will let you in on a little secret i have no condition. but i have a doctor that says i do. im the ignorant one? please. maybe when you have lived a bit longer your faith in people will wear out and you can start to see the truth of things in the world. but you are naive and thats cute. hold on to it and the world will seem a much prettier place than it is.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43402 Posts
July 05 2011 14:43 GMT
#68
On July 05 2011 23:37 Feyer wrote:
"who told this girl to sleep in a bed with a sexomniac?" Are you fucking kidding me? there is no such thing as a sexomniac.. I don't care if his retarded ex wife got used to being groped in her sleep... fucking bullshit. the only thing I wonder is if the girl struggled against this dude.. cause if she just laid there and a guy who was "asleep" had sex with her.. then it wasn't rape.

A lot of people do a lot of things while asleep. I have long conversations that I never recall in the morning when woken up in the middle of sleep.
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lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
July 05 2011 14:47 GMT
#69
The amount of ignorance of the medical condition in this thread is astounding. Do some basic research and you'll find that they're in a deep state of unconsciousness, it's not as simple as pinching them lightly on the arm to wake them up. There have been documented cases of this before; obviously you haven't heard what the jury said that convinced them to let a man off a rape charge when they had no personal interest in clearing him.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 05 2011 14:48 GMT
#70
If you're a grown fucking man, a 16 year old should never be sleeping in your bed.

That to me is more important than any of this "Sexsomniac" bullshit.

Besides, if he does it literally all the time, surely he would warn the girl/not have her in his own fucking bed?

Ridiculous.
Dryzt
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada118 Posts
July 05 2011 14:50 GMT
#71
On July 05 2011 23:18 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 23:16 yosisoy wrote:
This condition is hilarious. Can I make up a condition where I kill people and forget about it? And then have my friends and family confirm that I indeed do that often?

And yes, this situation is retarded.


Do you understand that this is real condition? No one made up nothing. jesus christ how people can be stupid.


strangely enough i have this condition. This guys described condition seems different than mine cause i can usually remember what happened like a dream. Let me describe what its like so you understand, its like being aware of what you are doing in all senses that you have, sight, touch, etc, but not having any brain processing capabilities. You are just along for the ride that your body is taking you on and you dont have enough awareness to know its wrong etc. I have woken up in the middle of doing it before when my wife has swatted me and its a strange feeling when your reasoning abilities and full thought ability slowly comes in and you realize fully what was just going on and what you were doing.

its totally possible to do this stuff without having control over it. This guy must have the condition in spades though cause i would wake up well before someone was thrashing underneath me, usually one swat is all it takes or the act of me moving will wake me up aswell.

and obviously you wouldn't have teen girls in the bed with you when you have this condition, almost seems like a set up.
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Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
July 05 2011 14:57 GMT
#72
wow...if only I had that, my wife could never claim to have a headache!
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MarKeD
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia183 Posts
July 05 2011 14:58 GMT
#73
I dont get how someone with this condition would think sharing a bed with ANYBODY who isn't their partner, let alone a 16 year old girl, would be a good idea. If he has 2 people testifying that he had this condition he must have known about it. Extremely suspicious.
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
July 05 2011 15:00 GMT
#74
On July 05 2011 23:47 lolsixtynine wrote:
The amount of ignorance of the medical condition in this thread is astounding. Do some basic research and you'll find that they're in a deep state of unconsciousness, it's not as simple as pinching them lightly on the arm to wake them up. There have been documented cases of this before; obviously you haven't heard what the jury said that convinced them to let a man off a rape charge when they had no personal interest in clearing him.


I find the amount of moral ambiguity in this thread astounding. there are some acts that are intrinsically wrong. wrong by the very nature of what it is. there are no excuses for such acts. none. i would put raping 16 year old girls on that list. seems alot of people around here wouldnt. on the bright side on bad days when i look in a mirror and i dont like what i see. i can look at this thread find comfort in the fact that im not bad enough to let a child rapist slide.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
July 05 2011 15:01 GMT
#75
On July 05 2011 23:16 yosisoy wrote:
This condition is hilarious. Can I make up a condition where I kill people and forget about it? And then have my friends and family confirm that I indeed do that often?

And yes, this situation is retarded.


I know of a least 2 cases where people have been declared "not guilty" after having killed in their sleep. One of them was in Arizona where the man killed his wife, the other was in Toronto where a man drove 20-something miles and killed his parents in law.

So yeah, I guess you could make up such a condition...


Link to the stories:
http://www.lakesidepress.com/pulmonary/Sleep/sleep-murder.htm
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
July 05 2011 15:02 GMT
#76
That guy is a professional troll
BW for life !
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
July 05 2011 15:03 GMT
#77
Hmmm... thats pretty bad. Not the decision but the situation. I think that he should be required to inform everyone that he is a sexsomniac (everyone he lives with btw) and he should not be allowed to share a bed with anyone but his partner. Though this is a real thing people, its not made up for this its more common than you think (though not super common anyway). Its been a diagnosis for a number of years and applies equally for women and men.

Similar to how bipolar disorder involves manic periods in which sex with strangers is common and oftentimes unprotected just do to the mental state of mind.
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MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 15:05:11
July 05 2011 15:04 GMT
#78
I've walked home and back from a friends house in my sleep so i guess this shouldn't be much harder.
sTsCompleted
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 15:06:21
July 05 2011 15:05 GMT
#79
well, I really can't make my mind up on this one.

Lucky guy, though. (for getting off the charge)

EDIT: Clarified
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 15:10:37
July 05 2011 15:08 GMT
#80
On July 05 2011 23:42 MHT wrote:
Yeah thats rape alright, doesn't matter if he was asleep or not had had sex with a girl against her will. Shit happens.


*warning, Sarkasm* Agreed. Next time you wake up in the morning with a girl in your bed that you have no idea how she got there, and you're being charged for rape..yeah, its your own fault. *Sarkasm over*

Who really should be charged here is the muppet who told the girl to go sleep in the bed of someone with these issues.
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