EPTAnd yes, this situation is retarded.
"Sexsomniac" cleared of rape charge - Page 3
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Please stop posting that he shouldn't have invited her into his bed since that's apparently not what happened... read the OP and links BEFORE commenting. | ||
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yosisoy
Israel202 Posts
And yes, this situation is retarded. | ||
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:57 Warble wrote: The lack of witnesses is probably why nowadays rape cases don't need witnesses. So long as the act is confirmed (via admission or testing), if the alleged victim says it was not consensual and their testimony is found to be credible, it will generally result in a conviction. And yet it is not possible to find out the truth for certain, only in probabilities. Is there reason to lie? Does the victim lie? Was it consensual sex and self-inflicted injuries? Or rape without injuries? Or even a weird case like this one. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
edit: 777 posts :D | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:16 yosisoy wrote: This condition is hilarious. Can I make up a condition where I kill people and forget about it? And then have my friends and family confirm that I indeed do that often? And yes, this situation is retarded. Do you understand that this is real condition? No one made up nothing. jesus christ how people can be stupid. | ||
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
edit: whoops didn't realise he was already asleep when she got into his bed. yeah fair enuf then. as retarded as the situation sounds, this is a legit condition that happens very VERY rarely | ||
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cyberspace
Canada955 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:13 qrs wrote: Could you link to a source? It's not that I don't believe you, but I'd like to read more about that. The idea that a single person's word against another's is enough for conviction is deeply disturbing to me. In most rape cases, there are usually zero witnesses except for the accused and the accuser. So more often than not it is one person's word over another. Edit: Plus whatever evidence they can find... | ||
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Denis Lachance
Canada162 Posts
And on top of that why is he a free man with his condition? If I start running around beating people up while asleep you better put me in a straight jacket and lock me up until my problem is solved. And what if from now on every rapist just claims that he was asleep? He could even make her a tea and call her a dirty bitch so this isn't that far fetched. That would only be an accurate comparison if you beat up people in your bed in your sleep. In which case, inviting people into your bed knowingly of your condition would be a crime. However, as I understand it, he did not invite her into his bed. So the crime is not his to bear, but to the person who told her to do that. Although this is always considering that he isn't lying about his condition, and that he didn't invite her into his bed. In which case the burden would change. | ||
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UkGracken
United Kingdom129 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:16 Ocedic wrote: So if he knew of his sexsomnia problems because of his experiences with his wife... why would he still have the girl sleep on his bed? Im pretty sure the most basic requirement of anythread is to at least read the orginal post if nothing else, hopefully that! | ||
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexsomnia | ||
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dodelol
Netherlands68 Posts
hope there can be found someone to blame, really sucks for the girl  did you guys ever say answered someone while being half asleep with eye's open and not remembering it 2 hours later?:D or should i be locked up the rest of my life now? On July 05 2011 23:13 Fenrax wrote: To me this is a compeltely wrong judgement. Why would he even allow a young girl to stay overnight at his house if he knows about his problem? Why didn't he tell her to not come even remotely close to him? And on top of that why is he a free man with his condition? If I start running around beating people up while asleep you better put me in a straight jacket and lock me up until my problem is solved. And what if from now on every rapist just claims that he was asleep? He could even make her a tea and call her a dirty bitch so this isn't that far fetched. This was rape and he has to be punished for it. common sense can be use full sometimes | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
Who else was home? Why was this 16yo girl staying with them and why was she comfortable enough to go crawl into this mans bed? How does the wife feel about this unconscious adultery? Where is the rest of this story? Most importantly, why didn't she stop him? | ||
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Detwiler
United States239 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:22 Detwiler wrote: wikipedia is not a real reference. just sayin... But there is plenty of documents about this. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
That said I haven't studied it in any way so it's possible it's legit. | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:13 Detwiler wrote: wow rapists all across the world must be so pissed they didnt think of this. no wait seriously i just bang whatevers in my bed. no i dont wake up if they scream. how do i get there pants off? cant remember. you are free to go sir. WINNING. For crying out loud, how ignorant can you be? The guy has a serious issue, read the OP and the following posts. So he can't be held responsable for it. If a guy with mental issues kills someone, he can't be held accountable for it, that's why he's sent to treatment (or mental hospital) and not to jail. He isn't left at home because he's a danger. However this sexsomniac guy isn't a social danger, so he still can't be held accountable for what he did, since his issues are beyond his will, but doesn't deserve to be locked down in a psychiatric ward. It's not like he's going out and raping women (case in which he'd be a social danger), he's just doing it in his sleep with whoever is sharing his bed. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:22 ComaDose wrote: My girlfriend will be so glad to learn this is a real condition. Who else was home? Why was this 16yo girl staying with them and why was she comfortable enough to go crawl into this mans bed? How does the wife feel about this unconscious adultery? Where is the rest of this story? Most importantly, why didn't she stop him? All very good questions, indeed. Assuming he was indeed asleep...why the hell would a 16 year old crawl into his bed? I mean, it's not like with 4 year olds who can't sleep and wanna be with someone??? a) if she knows him well enough, then why didn't she know about the condition? b) if she doesn't know him well enough, what on earth is she doing in his bed then? Everything about this is just weird. | ||
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Ninety-Three
United States68 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:22 Detwiler wrote: wikipedia is not a real reference. just sayin... There are more than seventeen references linked to this page. Wade through those and I'm sure some of them will meet your high standards. Also, I don't see how any male can find it hard to believe that sexual actions can be completely impulsive. I can understand being skeptical about the circumstances in the story, but doubting that you can have sex unconsciously seems really foolish to me. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On July 05 2011 23:22 Detwiler wrote: wikipedia is not a real reference. just sayin... There's more references than wikipedia, just sayin... | ||
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Detwiler
United States239 Posts
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Rarak
Australia631 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:51 teekesselchen wrote: It's the major problem of all jurisdisdiction. Nobody can know what happened for sure, often enough not even victims and witnesses (beeing neutral, even towards oneself, can be an almost impossible, some would say always impossible, thing). I think clearing the charges is, in general, the best way to go, even though it can be very cruel. "I'ld rather let free a hundred criminals than punishing a single innocent" - I don't know where this quote comes from, but I always agreed with it. Ahh that would be so bad in practice if they did that. Think about it. | ||
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