EPTGet rid of pi? - Page 8
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
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Samhax
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On July 02 2011 15:41 Drium wrote: Why does it matter? The number is the same if you write it as tau or 2pi. in fact it doesn't matter at all, but if i was a bad mouth i would call this guy an attention *biiiip* who have nothing important to say in mathematics because he is an average guy in his field. To sum up, it is as important as the wise statement "which seat can i take" from rebecca black, our modern philosopher. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On July 02 2011 15:49 Nazarid wrote: If the new Pi is more accurate then we should definitely be migrating to it in the long run would it not be better to have a more accurate representation? It's not more accurate in any way. It just changes the way things are expressed, but ultimately they mean the exact same thing | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On July 02 2011 15:09 Picklesicle wrote: Heheheh. Recently, a colleague declared a grant proposal of mine to be "fit only for Philistines and swine!". You may be on to something. As much as I might wish otherwise, I'm ultimately an applied mathematician. Incidentally, your description of mathematical elegance further down is, well, elegant. Cheers. (I still stand by my opinion, though  )Wow, that actually makes math sound a bit like art. Really interesting. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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Deleted_143
Australia256 Posts
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Picklesicle
United States64 Posts
On July 02 2011 15:49 Samhax wrote: in fact it doesn't matter at all, but if i was a bad mouth i would call this guy an attention *biiiip* who have nothing important to say in mathematics because he is an average guy in his field. To sum up, it is as important as the wise statement "which seat can i take" from rebecca black, our modern philosopher. All right, so this has come up twice now so I'm going to address it. Let's be fair: Palais actually has pretty decent publications under his belt and has made some pretty decent contributions to the field of computational medicine and biochemistry. Sure, a lot of his pure mathematics work has to do with small tweaks on the way we look at some fairly established things but we can't all be Erdos or Euler and a large body of global published work will fall into this category. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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Samhax
1054 Posts
On July 02 2011 15:59 Picklesicle wrote: All right, so this has come up twice now so I'm going to address it. Let's be fair: Palais actually has pretty decent publications under his belt and has made some pretty decent contributions to the field of computational medicine and biochemistry. Sure, a lot of his pure mathematics work has to do with small tweaks on the way we look at some fairly established things but we can't all be Erdos or Euler and a large body of global published work will fall into this category. Yeah that's what i'm saying, he is average. I didn't say he is bad, i just think he is gathering too much attention with such a pointless subject. If he doesn't like pi, he can use tau in his work and don't brag about it because seriously all the real mathematicians don't care at all about his tau, they have more important things to do. You won't see Perelman (lol) or Tao speak about something pointless like that. | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Physicians already replace stuff like 2*pi or much more complex stuff with just 1. Introduces more fractions which generally are uglier than products. But most importantly: 6(.28...) is such a huge number, wtf. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'm not just being a smartass. I dunno about you guys, but I literally just think about everything in terms of 2pi's already, because... duh? Give it a special name if you want. Also, don't fuck up euler's identity, seriously man. | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
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AxelTVx
Canada916 Posts
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On July 02 2011 15:02 Laerties wrote: Don't most mathematicians value mathematical elegance? Isnt tau more elegant than 2pi? That's like saying 2 is more elegant than 4, they are both more than elegant enough. Pi is a number, 2pi is a number. If you use 2pi a lot in one of your mathematical texts and you are too lazy to write the 2 (which isn't that rare  ), just define tau = 2pi at the start and use tau if you like to. | ||
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Deleted_143
Australia256 Posts
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On July 02 2011 16:30 Klesky wrote: Euler's identity is better when you use tau. e^(i*tau) = 1 no, you couldn't conclude e^(i pi) = -1 from this one, it could be e^(i pi) = 1. | ||
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Mista_Masta
Netherlands557 Posts
That said, I dislike the argument "we should use Pi because that's what we've been doing all along". In my opinion people should be able to use either one. I can understand that in several ways, using Tau is more 'natural' than using Pi. It will be inconvenient to have standard angles of Tau/12 and Tau/8 though... | ||
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