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Krivvan
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada18 Posts
July 02 2011 10:01 GMT
#181
The thread title is indeed misleading. The introduction of a tau constant doesn't need to entail getting rid of the definition of pi. People who are used to pi use pi and tau could be used to teach younger generations. I doubt converting tau to pi would be so difficult to those who have learned to use pi.

Palais' idea of changing the definition of pi itself would be terrible though. =P
sparC
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany162 Posts
July 02 2011 10:04 GMT
#182
i'm definitely for the change ;p
Jhuyt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden365 Posts
July 02 2011 10:09 GMT
#183
On July 02 2011 11:35 L3gendary wrote:
I say no, just for the sake of Euler's identity.


Euler's Identity for life man!

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Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
July 02 2011 10:20 GMT
#184
As a physicist, I say let's make pi = 1 and work from there.
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exKid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom118 Posts
July 02 2011 10:24 GMT
#185
Hmm as a physicist I say, learn to multiply by 2 noobs!
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 02 2011 10:50 GMT
#186
On July 02 2011 19:09 Jhuyt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 11:35 L3gendary wrote:
I say no, just for the sake of Euler's identity.


Euler's Identity for life man!


You didn't watch the video, it gets even better!

e^(i(tau)) = 1
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theSkareqro
Profile Joined June 2010
Singapore102 Posts
July 02 2011 10:51 GMT
#187
I study chemical engineering and tau represents something already in a formula. Its gonna be confusing as hell if it catches on.
SnetteL
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium473 Posts
July 02 2011 10:54 GMT
#188
This will never catch on, pi is fine the way it is.

As an engineer I use pi divided and multiplied by a lot of numbers. To be honest i'd rather use pi/4 and 4pi than pi/8 en 2pi. If you wanna 'balance' pi you should prepare for gathering a lot of statistics.

Changing all the notebooks, people will get irritated, not worth it.
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
July 02 2011 11:01 GMT
#189
On July 02 2011 19:50 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2011 19:09 Jhuyt wrote:
On July 02 2011 11:35 L3gendary wrote:
I say no, just for the sake of Euler's identity.


Euler's Identity for life man!


You didn't watch the video, it gets even better!

e^(i(tau)) = 1


Well of course that's true, but then you lose the zero
:3
Deleted_143
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia256 Posts
July 02 2011 11:06 GMT
#190
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seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
July 02 2011 11:07 GMT
#191
On July 02 2011 13:44 Plexa wrote:
As a mathematician.
This is trivial.

Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 02 2011 11:08 GMT
#192
I'm in math but i dont care lol.
tau pi... whatever.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
July 02 2011 11:09 GMT
#193
if tau is more useful than pi then ofcourse make the switch, but I think it doesn't really matter which one is used.

like metric system is used becouse it's way more useful than imperial.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 02 2011 11:09 GMT
#194
Wouldnt removing it still cause more hurdle than gain? A lot of teachers would be bothered by it
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OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
July 02 2011 11:12 GMT
#195
On July 02 2011 19:51 theSkareqro wrote:
I study chemical engineering and tau represents something already in a formula. Its gonna be confusing as hell if it catches on.


Pi is used as symbols in formulas as well. As a physicist I think this change makes a lot of sense. If nothing else, then just because plancks constant/reduced would be a lot easier to remember. If it helps people understand the basic math better for some then by all means. The biggest effect for anyone with an understanding beyond basic geometry/trigonometry, would be having to write less on blackboards, on computers and so on.
Patat0r
Profile Joined May 2010
France142 Posts
July 02 2011 11:24 GMT
#196
On July 02 2011 11:35 L3gendary wrote:
I say no, just for the sake of Euler's identity.


You can change it to e^(i*tau) - 1 = 0. But why bother, I don't fell that we use 2*Pi more than Pi. I want Pi to stay !
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-02 11:25:12
July 02 2011 11:24 GMT
#197
lmao my math professor used to go on and on about tau and how it's superior to pi

is there any reason we can't use both?
delHospital
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland261 Posts
July 02 2011 11:26 GMT
#198
On July 02 2011 11:45 micronesia wrote:
Yeah I used tau today in an RC circuit problem so that woulda messed with me if pi/tau somehow came into the problem lol... kinda like when voltage and velocity are in the same problem (railgun problems).... my v and V is hard to distinguish with my handwriting XD

Hm, pi is used with permutations and chemical bonds, but the other pi probably isn't very common in the same context. As to your second problem, just use U, like we do :O

But I think that switching to Tyler's 120-min hours should be higher in priority that this.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
July 02 2011 11:29 GMT
#199
If we switched over from Pi to Tau, it would mess up everyone in school who already had learned formulas with Pi and would make their lives a whole lot harder having to rememorize said formulas
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
July 02 2011 11:33 GMT
#200
On July 02 2011 20:24 hifriend wrote:
lmao my math professor used to go on and on about tau and how it's superior to pi

is there any reason we can't use both?

Do you remember the Mars Climate Orbiter? Using different conventions can lead to misunderstandings, I think many people here don't even realize what the consequences of such a decision could be.
And all of that over something so trivial?
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