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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:36 Hekisui wrote: Burglars that rape daughters? You sound like a fear brainwashed American. Watch less tv. Do you know what a burglar is, you ignoramus? it's a person who breaks INTO YOUR HOME with the intent to commit a FELONY. | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:40 Hekisui wrote: Immoral idiot. Rapist apologizer. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Taiwan619 Posts
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OsoVega
926 Posts
Unfortunately in the UK, while David Cameron may say citizens are allowed to use "whatever force necessary", they do not have the force often necessary to protect your family and home. I think people in the UK should be standing back to win back their gun rights. | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:41 MozzarellaL wrote: Rapist apologizer. Potential rapist. | ||
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sCfO20
176 Posts
guess what bud, you're dead. | ||
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:43 Hekisui wrote: Potential rapist. At least I don't advocate against killing burglars. there's only one reason someone would take such a position -- a burglar or wannabe burglar. You're the potential rapist, you want to sneak into people's homes at night, and rape everyone inside, without fear of reprisal. why you mad Hekisui? why you mad? | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
If you knew anything about the statistics behind rape or the nature of most burglars, you wouldn't have spewed any of this nonsense anyway. I just support proportional violence. Be it nation states or people. Universal moral principle. | ||
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:50 Hekisui wrote: You bring up killing people and raping people. Not me. You have a sick mind. It's not my fault you have the naivete of a five year old. If you knew anything about the statistics behind rape or the nature of most burglars, you wouldn't have spewed any of this nonsense anyway. And you do? As I wrote in a previous post, "The majority of burglars break and enter with the intent to steal." I just support proportional violence. Be it nation states or people. Universal moral principle. Following your naive 'moral principle', there'd be no moral people on the Earth, because they'd all be dead. | ||
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Cubu
1171 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:35 MozzarellaL wrote: I'll have worse nightmares when a burglar breaks into my home and rapes my daughter because I didn't want to shoot him. Never mind her nightmares. You make a lot of sense. This topic has nothing to do with rape. | ||
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OsoVega
926 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:32 Hekisui wrote: Then you are an immoral person and no better than a criminal yourself. You wouldn't value your own life over that of a plasma tv if you weren't yourself, it seems. Also, all these fake though guys that claim they would like to kill someone, when you actually do you are going to have nightmares all your life. Enjoy. You should watch the miniseries, Generation Kill, or read the book. You are wrong about people who want to kill, bluffing. As for morality, I always value myself first and will always do what is in my best interest (my best interest may be the people I love's best interest btw) so long as I am not an initiator of force. In the case of a burgaler, he is the initiator of force by breaking into your home and choosing to put himself in a threatening position. I don't know if a burglar is breaking in to steal or to kill. If it is very clear I will only threaten them because that is better for me. If it is not, I will kill them regardless of their true intentions, as their true intentions can often not be known and it is not up to the victim to take the risk when it was the burglars choice. | ||
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LazyMacro
976 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:36 Hekisui wrote: Burglars that rape daughters? You sound like a fear brainwashed American. Watch less tv. What's ironic is that there are far more home invasions that result in rapes than are reported on mainstream news media, so calling him in a "brainwashed American" and then advising him to watch less television is asinine. | ||
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
sincerely, Rabbitmaster | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:54 MozzarellaL wrote: It's not my fault you have the naivete of a five year old. And you do? As I wrote in a previous post, "The majority of burglars break and enter with the intent to steal." Following your naive 'moral principle', there'd be no moral people on the Earth, because they'd all be dead. If we reduce violence to the minimum needed level, yes we will all be dead because of excess violence! Instead, we kill everyone who seems to be a threat. Sure! Most people are raped by people they know. Most rapes are planned. Burglars want to steal your plasma tv or laptop. These people are petty criminals. If they were ruthless they wouldn't break into random homes at night. wtf does rape even come in to this whole thing? It's just a stupid thing you made up on the spot because you couldn't think of anything else to counter argue with People that rape have a certain level of mental disorder. They aren't going to be the same people that are thieves. On June 30 2011 13:56 LazyMacro wrote: What's ironic is that there are far more home invasions that result in rapes than are reported on mainstream news media, so calling him in a "brainwashed American" and then advising him to watch less television is asinine. US is a well known case of a fear dominated society. His comment just makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with rapes being reported in the media or not. If it was, it would be at least partially rational. | ||
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
I can see this being a great excuse to take one of the ancient arts of swordsmanship - fencing. | ||
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LazyMacro
976 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:57 Rabbitmaster wrote: Pretty stupid in my opinion. There is nothing vague or unclear about "Reasonable force". It means that you can use as much force as is deemed necessary for the situation at hand. In some cases you might have to kill the guy/girl for him/her to stop, sometimes a slap on the cheek is enough. No need for a specific rule. sincerely, Rabbitmaster With respect, your attitude itself is what I personally think is the issue. The phrase "reasonable force" is exemplary of rhetoric and politics at work. What is reasonable to you is likely not the same as what I consider reasonable. The same goes with force. There are different levels of force and which is appropriate depends on a lot of variables. It is important to define what things do and do not mean in a way that the layman can understand and apply it. If you misinterpet a law and then act out of that misunderstanding only to end up having your life ruined by legal bills and potential time in prison, I think you'd wish the laws had been more clear to begin with. There is nothing clear about "reasonable force." | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
On June 30 2011 13:55 Cubu wrote: This topic has nothing to do with rape. Current English law defining burglary: A person is guilty of burglary if he enters any building or part of a building as a trespasser with intent to steal, inflict grievous bodily harm or raping any person therein, or do unlawful damage to the building or anything in it.(section 9(1)(a)) Oh. On June 30 2011 13:58 Hekisui wrote: If we reduce violence to the minimum needed level, yes we will all be dead because of excess violence! Instead, we kill everyone who seems to be a threat. Sure! No you idiot, you will be dead because all the immoral people have no scruples to kill you, and they aren't going to wait for you to ascertain their intentions. Most people are raped by people they know. Most rapes are planned. Just because most people are raped by people they know does not mean that burglars do not have an intention to rape. Burglars want to steal your plasma tv or laptop. No, a robber wants to steal your plasma TV. A burglar is someone else entirely. Again, your naivete shows, because you don't even know what a burglar is. These people are petty criminals. If they were ruthless they wouldn't break into random homes at night. Really? Burglary is a FELONY. I wasn't aware felonious crimes counted as 'petty crimes'. wtf does rape even come in to this whole thing? It's just a stupid thing you made up on the spot because you couldn't think of anything else to counter argue with You're an idiot, read the UK law defining burglary. I'm done arguing with your ignorant mind, if you want to continue, please go educate yourself. On June 30 2011 14:05 Hekisui wrote: The principle or proportionality is a universal moral principle. Not abiding or respecting it is a sigh of objective moral deficiency NEWS FLASH: THE ENTIRETY OF ENGLISH COMMON LAW IS IMMORAL | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
Btw, I am not dead yet. Maybe I would be if I met you. I seem to be a threat to you. But I think you need mental help, not capital punishment. | ||
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