Stabbing burglars 'will be legal' in UK - Page 4

On June 30 2011 12:57 Hekisui wrote:
How do you know if a person is in your home with the intention to steal? And how do you prove this is the care or not in court?

There's a famous case of a tourist in Italy that went out the backside of a night club, partially drunk, returned to find the door closed, then wandered around and got onto a roof, since it was an area build on a hill slope, and then on someone's balcony. It turned out the person living there was a policeman who had a gun and he immediately shot the drunk tourist.

He then actually went ahead to forge false evidence.

There are more cases but I don't remember them clearly.

On June 30 2011 12:55 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Just make sure that if you do take action against would-be attackers, you kill them. Otherwise they'll just come back and sue you into oblivion.

On June 30 2011 13:05 duk3 wrote:
Unfortunately, as much as I support these kind of laws allowing people to defend themselves, these kind of problems occur:
http://newsok.com/article/3567368#disqus_thread

On June 30 2011 12:43 MozzarellaL wrote:

Your example is ridiculous. You certainly can't call the person you want to kill to invite him over (shows you had familiarity with the 'burglar', making it unlikely that he was a burglar), so you must invite him over via face to face discussion. If you did that, I doubt most people would randomly accept a stranger's invitation to their house. So that basically limits it to people you know. Burglars usually are NOT people you know, they're fucking lowlifes who break into homes with the intent of committing a crime.

1. It is very rare, a very small percentage of burglars committed are by people known familiarly to the victim.
2. Plenty of evidence can be lacking. example: lack of deceased's footprints by the door. lack of tools used to force entry on deceased's person. lack of fingerprints on tools. Your fingerprints/DNA on the tools. Unexplained time gaps between estimated time of death and you calling the police. Witness testimony from friends and family of deceased who will say "He was invited over, you're a lying sack of shit".

On June 30 2011 13:09 MozzarellaL wrote:

The funny thing is though, the law does not allow you to shoot at random people passing through on your property. That rancher was probably charged with attempted homicide (and I hope he was found guilty).

On June 30 2011 13:10 Greatness wrote:
You seem like a lawyer, how many cases do you come across where the burglars have a history of extreme violence against people, compared to burglars that don't. I'm guessing 95% of burglars have a history of violence.

On June 30 2011 12:32 Hekisui wrote:
And even besides that, how does a criminal deserve to die? They break the law. It is immoral. But killing a criminal on sight is also immoral. Your plasma tv isn't worth more than the life of a criminal.

On June 30 2011 12:32 Hekisui wrote:
And even besides that, how does a criminal deserve to die? They break the law. It is immoral. But killing a criminal on sight is also immoral. Your plasma tv isn't worth more than the life of a criminal.

On June 30 2011 13:27 GhostKorean wrote:

I would actually value my plasma tv over a life of some criminal.

On June 30 2011 12:01 Arishok wrote:
In the US it is legal to shoot intruders un-invited on our property if they are deemed a threat, AFAIK

Personally if someone broke into my house I wouldn't get close enough to them to use a knife, regardless of what was legal or not.

On June 30 2011 13:32 Hekisui wrote:
Also, all these fake though guys that claim they would like to kill someone, when you actually do you are going to have nightmares all your life. Enjoy.