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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 23 2014 18:09 GMT
#1621
On April 24 2014 01:03 Crushinator wrote:
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On April 24 2014 00:53 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On April 24 2014 00:40 Epishade wrote:
Is it ok to hate a certain race?

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I don't really like Terrans all that much.


Hate is a reflex. You can't choose to hate much like you can't choose to be gay. Its a deep primal feeling that starts in your gut and climbs up your spine setting fire to your lungs and instilling a fury in you that seems completely reasonable during your moment of rage.

Its an emotion, you can't help emotions. Its about what you do with your emotions afterwards that matters.

You can hate any race you want--but so long as you don't actually treat them differently than anyone else you're fine.



Is hatred the same as rage? I would think not. I would also suggest that hatred and hostility go hand in hand, hatred being a dislike so strong that it is too difficult to ignore. When you succeed in not acting on your hatred, and treat the thing you hate the same as any other thing, is it really hatred?

Ponder this, and you too can find enlightenment.


hate
hāt/
verb
verb: hate; 3rd person present: hates; past tense: hated; past participle: hated; gerund or present participle: hating
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1.
feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone).
"the boys hate each other"
synonyms: loathe, detest, despise, dislike, abhor, execrate; More
be repelled by, be unable to bear/stand, find intolerable, recoil from, shrink from;
formalabominate
"they hate each other"
antonyms: love
have a strong aversion to (something).
"he hates flying"
used politely to express one's regret or embarrassment at doing something.
"I hate to bother you"
synonyms: be sorry, be reluctant, be loath, be unwilling, be disinclined; More
regret, dislike
"I hate to bother you"
informal
express strong dislike for; criticize or abuse.
"I can't hate on them for trying something new"

noun
noun: hate

1.
intense or passionate dislike.
"feelings of hate and revenge"
synonyms: hatred, loathing, detestation, dislike, distaste, abhorrence, abomination, execration, aversion; More
hostility, enmity, animosity, antipathy, revulsion, disgust, contempt, odium
"feelings of hate"
antonyms: love
denoting hostile actions motivated by intense dislike or prejudice.
modifier noun: hate
"a hate campaign"

Origin
Old English hatian (verb), hete (noun), of Germanic origin; related to Dutch haten (verb) and German hassen (verb), Hass ‘hatred.’
Translate hate to
Use over time for: hate


Notice the antonym to Hate is Love?

Much like you don't choose who you love, you don't choose who you hate.

You can learn to love something, much like you can learn to hate something. But its not a choice, its a lifestyle. When you fall in love with someone you don't automatically go after them if circumstances prevent you like if their are with someone, don't love you back, etc...

When you fall in love with someone you make the decision of what to do with that emotion.
When you realize you hate someone, you also make decisions of what to do with that emotion.

You don't need to hurt people to hate them, much like you don't need to be *with* someone to love them. One can love from afar much like one can hate from afar.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 23 2014 18:28 GMT
#1622
Why all the hate for the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.


And lo and behold, they did not die and they knew as much as God proving that God lied. Does the serpent deserve whistle blower status?
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 23 2014 18:48 GMT
#1623
On April 24 2014 03:28 Shiragaku wrote:
Why all the hate for the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

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3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

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4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

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5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.


And lo and behold, they did not die and they knew as much as God proving that God lied. Does the serpent deserve whistle blower status?

They did die, just not right away. The general idea is that they would have lived in the garden forever if not for the eating of the fruit.
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 23 2014 18:49 GMT
#1624
On April 24 2014 03:28 Shiragaku wrote:
Why all the hate for the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

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3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Show nested quote +
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

Show nested quote +
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.


And lo and behold, they did not die and they knew as much as God proving that God lied. Does the serpent deserve whistle blower status?


I think the current Protestant interpretation is that Adam and Eve were immortal and now they are mortal.

Still doesn't mean the snake deserves to forever be killed by man and for man to forever have his heel bitten by snakes--but "technically" depending which christians you ask, God was not "wrong" about his punishment.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
April 23 2014 20:22 GMT
#1625
On April 24 2014 03:49 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 03:28 Shiragaku wrote:
Why all the hate for the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.


And lo and behold, they did not die and they knew as much as God proving that God lied. Does the serpent deserve whistle blower status?


I think the current Protestant interpretation is that Adam and Eve were immortal and now they are mortal.

Still doesn't mean the snake deserves to forever be killed by man and for man to forever have his heel bitten by snakes--but "technically" depending which christians you ask, God was not "wrong" about his punishment.


Of course not. God is prone to human emotions like vengeance and jealousy in the Old Testament, but then does a full 180 betwen the OT and NT and turns into all flowers and rainbows. They should've had me do the editing, although I probably would've turned it into a sci-fi murder mystery. Not that far off from what it turned out to be, though.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 24 2014 00:21 GMT
#1626
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11973 Posts
April 24 2014 00:35 GMT
#1627
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?


SHUT UP MOTHERFUCKER IM GONNA FUCKING CUT YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE ASSHOLE.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
April 24 2014 00:35 GMT
#1628
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?

"So's your face."

or anything related to his/her mother. Unless you happen to know that their mother is dead, cause that's just messed up and you end up lookin' like a dick.
I get it.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 24 2014 00:46 GMT
#1629
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?


If you were playing Dota, you could just say "cyka"
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 24 2014 00:59 GMT
#1630
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?


verbal of physical?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
April 24 2014 01:27 GMT
#1631
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?

Wow you're so handsome or GONNA BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU... WITH MY DICK.

If you don't get the reference...
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http://pastebin.com/vAA3S7HU
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-24 01:42:10
April 24 2014 01:41 GMT
#1632
On April 24 2014 09:46 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?


If you were playing Dota, you could just say "cyka"


How do you pronounce "cyka"?
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 24 2014 01:42 GMT
#1633
On April 24 2014 10:41 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 09:46 rebdomine wrote:
On April 24 2014 09:21 3FFA wrote:
What is a good universal comeback to a rude or derogatory comment?


If you were playing Dota, you could just say "cyka"


How do you pronounce "cyka"?


This should help:
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
April 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#1634
Can I convert my chimp buddy to Christianity so I can take him into Heaven with me?
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 24 2014 23:59 GMT
#1635
On April 25 2014 06:54 Epishade wrote:
Can I convert my chimp buddy to Christianity so I can take him into Heaven with me?

It all depends on faith, love, and willingness to follow the way of Jesus Christ.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 25 2014 00:11 GMT
#1636
On April 25 2014 08:59 3FFA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 06:54 Epishade wrote:
Can I convert my chimp buddy to Christianity so I can take him into Heaven with me?

It all depends on faith, love, and willingness to follow the way of Jesus Christ.


If you're protestant.

Communion and Confession of sins is required in Catholicism. Baptism is also a requirement in others. Doesn't Mormonism have special underwear or am I just a Mormonist?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
April 25 2014 00:13 GMT
#1637
On April 25 2014 09:11 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 08:59 3FFA wrote:
On April 25 2014 06:54 Epishade wrote:
Can I convert my chimp buddy to Christianity so I can take him into Heaven with me?

It all depends on faith, love, and willingness to follow the way of Jesus Christ.


If you're protestant.

Communion and Confession of sins is required in Catholicism. Baptism is also a requirement in others. Doesn't Mormonism have special underwear or am I just a Mormonist?

Eh if we want to get technical all you need to do is follow your conscience to get to heaven in theory. Catholic doctrine is written in a way that if you were never exposed to Catholicism/Christianity you can still go to heaven/receive grace by following your conscience. There's no guarantee because you never received the Eucharist/Baptism, but there's always the chance. Claiming that you would need something to go to heaven is claiming that you have the knowledge of God.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 25 2014 00:27 GMT
#1638
On April 25 2014 09:13 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 09:11 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On April 25 2014 08:59 3FFA wrote:
On April 25 2014 06:54 Epishade wrote:
Can I convert my chimp buddy to Christianity so I can take him into Heaven with me?

It all depends on faith, love, and willingness to follow the way of Jesus Christ.


If you're protestant.

Communion and Confession of sins is required in Catholicism. Baptism is also a requirement in others. Doesn't Mormonism have special underwear or am I just a Mormonist?

Eh if we want to get technical all you need to do is follow your conscience to get to heaven in theory. Catholic doctrine is written in a way that if you were never exposed to Catholicism/Christianity you can still go to heaven/receive grace by following your conscience. There's no guarantee because you never received the Eucharist/Baptism, but there's always the chance. Claiming that you would need something to go to heaven is claiming that you have the knowledge of God.


Sort of.

Depends how orthodox catholic you are. The eating of God's Flesh and drinking of God's blood is one of the few things that Jesus explicitly says to do in the Bible and is the "source text" from which all Catholic rituals stems from. Protestants say its just whatever, bread is bread, ritual is ritual, the specifics doesn't matter. Catholics take that section a lot more seriously.

And every group has their own thing. Calvanists, for example, believed that God already knew who would go to heaven or not and that there was no real point in trying to earn your way to heaven since you were already destined to be in heaven or not. They then added the caveat that "most likely if you do all the things right that that would mean you would go to heaven, but no promises"

Its really hard to figure out which one of the christian groups people mean when they throw the word "christian" into the air/forum.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 00:49:37
April 25 2014 00:47 GMT
#1639
On April 25 2014 09:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 09:13 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On April 25 2014 09:11 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On April 25 2014 08:59 3FFA wrote:
On April 25 2014 06:54 Epishade wrote:
Can I convert my chimp buddy to Christianity so I can take him into Heaven with me?

It all depends on faith, love, and willingness to follow the way of Jesus Christ.


If you're protestant.

Communion and Confession of sins is required in Catholicism. Baptism is also a requirement in others. Doesn't Mormonism have special underwear or am I just a Mormonist?

Eh if we want to get technical all you need to do is follow your conscience to get to heaven in theory. Catholic doctrine is written in a way that if you were never exposed to Catholicism/Christianity you can still go to heaven/receive grace by following your conscience. There's no guarantee because you never received the Eucharist/Baptism, but there's always the chance. Claiming that you would need something to go to heaven is claiming that you have the knowledge of God.


Depends how orthodox catholic you are. The eating of God's Flesh and drinking of God's blood is one of the few things that Jesus explicitly says to do in the Bible and is the "source text" from which all Catholic rituals stems from. Protestants say its just whatever, bread is bread, ritual is ritual, the specifics doesn't matter. Catholics take that section a lot more seriously.

The exact Aramaic verb translates to gnawing as far as I know. Catholics believe that it's not just in remembrance of Jesus (the real presence of the Eucharist). It's kind of strange in my opinion since there is nothing in the texts to imply that he literally means to eat His body and drink his blood other than the word choices. I don't really think this is the right thread for a theological discussion though, as much as I find it interesting.

And every group has their own thing. Calvanists, for example, believed that God already knew who would go to heaven or not and that there was no real point in trying to earn your way to heaven since you were already destined to be in heaven or not.

Catholics kind of believe that in a sense. God knows everything worth knowing -- He knows who will be saved as well. Just because he knows that though does not deny that people have freewill. It's kind of contradictory but the example my teacher gave to us was that it's like if he gave us a test that he knew we'd fail. We had the option to study more and do well on it, but we probably won't.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
April 25 2014 00:50 GMT
#1640
This isn't the first time theological discussion broke out in here.

And discussing theology in a thread like this implies it's something stupid. So I don't know if you guys want to keep discussing it lol.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
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