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United States7483 Posts
On April 01 2014 16:24 Levistus wrote:
If a serial killer and rapist rapes then murders my daughter, what would be the punishment if i murder him? Would it be the same as other murderers or will this be a special case? like do i get 5-10 less years in prison? i wonder if the president would pardon me if the killer had thousands of victims. i don't have a daughter and i'm not after someone, i'm just curious.
In the united states, you'd be put on trial for pre-meditated murder. A jury may choose not to convict you, but the sentence is severe. Nobody gets to take the law into their own hands. Anything you can do to help the police is appreciated (within the bounds of the law), but you are required to let the agents of the law handle it. Murder is murder, regardless of your reasons.
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United States845 Posts
On April 01 2014 16:48 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 16:24 Levistus wrote:
If a serial killer and rapist rapes then murders my daughter, what would be the punishment if i murder him? Would it be the same as other murderers or will this be a special case? like do i get 5-10 less years in prison? i wonder if the president would pardon me if the killer had thousands of victims. i don't have a daughter and i'm not after someone, i'm just curious. In the united states, you'd be put on trial for pre-meditated murder. A jury may choose not to convict you, but the sentence is severe. Nobody gets to take the law into their own hands. Anything you can do to help the police is appreciated (within the bounds of the law), but you are required to let the agents of the law handle it. Murder is murder, regardless of your reasons.
What if the guy was actively in the process of killing people, like, say, one of many mass shootings in public spaces? Suppose that someone shot him dead while in the act?
I know self-defense laws vary from state to state, but would that still count as "murder" at a trial?
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United States7483 Posts
On April 01 2014 16:57 Coppermantis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 16:48 Whitewing wrote:On April 01 2014 16:24 Levistus wrote:
If a serial killer and rapist rapes then murders my daughter, what would be the punishment if i murder him? Would it be the same as other murderers or will this be a special case? like do i get 5-10 less years in prison? i wonder if the president would pardon me if the killer had thousands of victims. i don't have a daughter and i'm not after someone, i'm just curious. In the united states, you'd be put on trial for pre-meditated murder. A jury may choose not to convict you, but the sentence is severe. Nobody gets to take the law into their own hands. Anything you can do to help the police is appreciated (within the bounds of the law), but you are required to let the agents of the law handle it. Murder is murder, regardless of your reasons. What if the guy was actively in the process of killing people, like, say, one of many mass shootings in public spaces? Suppose that someone shot him dead while in the act? I know self-defense laws vary from state to state, but would that still count as "murder" at a trial?
If he isn't threatening you, it isn't self defense. However, if you can reasonably argue that you are afraid for your life at the time, you can easily use a self-defense legal defense, and a good jury will find you not-guilty. If you genuinely don't feel threatened but do it to save others, the question becomes mostly if you could have accomplished the same goal without killing him. That said, it's a mitigating factor and will reduce the penalty, usually. You'd still have a trial, generally speaking, but you'll usually be found not-guilty if your actions are genuinely reasonable.
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On April 01 2014 16:57 Coppermantis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 16:48 Whitewing wrote:On April 01 2014 16:24 Levistus wrote:
If a serial killer and rapist rapes then murders my daughter, what would be the punishment if i murder him? Would it be the same as other murderers or will this be a special case? like do i get 5-10 less years in prison? i wonder if the president would pardon me if the killer had thousands of victims. i don't have a daughter and i'm not after someone, i'm just curious. In the united states, you'd be put on trial for pre-meditated murder. A jury may choose not to convict you, but the sentence is severe. Nobody gets to take the law into their own hands. Anything you can do to help the police is appreciated (within the bounds of the law), but you are required to let the agents of the law handle it. Murder is murder, regardless of your reasons. What if the guy was actively in the process of killing people, like, say, one of many mass shootings in public spaces? Suppose that someone shot him dead while in the act? I know self-defense laws vary from state to state, but would that still count as "murder" at a trial?
If you are witnessing someone raping or murdering someone else you have the right to kill them in self defense. Because the victim has a right to self defense, if they're unable to defend themselves you can do the defending for them. However you have to reasonably believe you or them are in immediate danger of serious injury or death.
The rules are the same when force is used to protect another from danger. Generally, the defendant must have a reasonable belief that the third party is in a position where they would have the right of self-defense. For example, a person who unknowingly chances upon two actors practicing a fight would be able to defend their restraint of the one that appeared to be the aggressor. However, in many jurisdictions a person who causes injury in defense of another may be liable to criminal and civil charges if such defence turned out to be unnecessary. Most[weasel words] courts have ruled that such a defense cannot be used to protect friends or family members who have engaged in an illegal fight. Likewise, one cannot use this to aid a criminal
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Osaka27162 Posts
On April 01 2014 15:51 LeeDawg wrote:
what are the chances that I can get a job acting on the 5th season of game of thrones, factoring in the facts that I did theater for about 12 years, but don't have the appropriate accent for the show?
You could be the nameless assassin that kills Tyrion.
/spoilers.
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What came 1st? The chicken or the egg?
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On April 01 2014 21:14 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
What came 1st? The chicken or the egg?
It depends on whether you define egg as 'an egg from a chicken' or 'an egg containing a chicken' or 'an egg'.
The extreme majority of what is referred to as a 'chicken egg' in common usage is unfertilised and therefore does not (and can not) contain a chicken. In common usage 'chicken egg' refers to an egg from a chicken.
So the mother of the first chicken did not lay a chicken egg. It layed a precursor-to-a-chicken-egg. From this egg grew a chicken which would eventually lay the first chicken egg. The chicken came before the first chicken egg.
A generic egg obviously pre-exists both.
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On April 01 2014 22:36 Lachrymose wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 21:14 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
What came 1st? The chicken or the egg? It depends on whether you define egg as 'an egg from a chicken' or 'an egg containing a chicken' or 'an egg'. The extreme majority of what is referred to as a 'chicken egg' in common usage is unfertilised and therefore does not (and can not) contain a chicken. In common usage 'chicken egg' refers to an egg from a chicken. So the mother of the first chicken did not lay a chicken egg. It layed a precursor-to-a-chicken-egg. From this egg grew a chicken which would eventually lay the first chicken egg. The chicken came before the first chicken egg. A generic egg obviously pre-exists both.
is there a theory on how eggs came to exist? like, what was the predecessor to a protoegg?
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On April 01 2014 22:46 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 22:36 Lachrymose wrote:On April 01 2014 21:14 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
What came 1st? The chicken or the egg? It depends on whether you define egg as 'an egg from a chicken' or 'an egg containing a chicken' or 'an egg'. The extreme majority of what is referred to as a 'chicken egg' in common usage is unfertilised and therefore does not (and can not) contain a chicken. In common usage 'chicken egg' refers to an egg from a chicken. So the mother of the first chicken did not lay a chicken egg. It layed a precursor-to-a-chicken-egg. From this egg grew a chicken which would eventually lay the first chicken egg. The chicken came before the first chicken egg. A generic egg obviously pre-exists both. is there a theory on how eggs came to exist? like, what was the predecessor to a protoegg?
Probably some form of protective layer around the young that resembled an egg's exterior. Egg evolution probably doesn't exist as binaries from live birth to egg, but rather lies more on a continuum. With increasing degrees of eggyness.
Source: Am chicken
On April 01 2014 20:30 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 15:51 LeeDawg wrote:
what are the chances that I can get a job acting on the 5th season of game of thrones, factoring in the facts that I did theater for about 12 years, but don't have the appropriate accent for the show? You could be the nameless assassin that kills Tyrion. /spoilers.
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On April 01 2014 20:30 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 15:51 LeeDawg wrote:
what are the chances that I can get a job acting on the 5th season of game of thrones, factoring in the facts that I did theater for about 12 years, but don't have the appropriate accent for the show? You could be the nameless assassin that kills Tyrion. /spoilers.
if that was a real spoiler, I will find you.
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On April 01 2014 23:20 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 22:46 Hryul wrote:On April 01 2014 22:36 Lachrymose wrote:On April 01 2014 21:14 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
What came 1st? The chicken or the egg? It depends on whether you define egg as 'an egg from a chicken' or 'an egg containing a chicken' or 'an egg'. The extreme majority of what is referred to as a 'chicken egg' in common usage is unfertilised and therefore does not (and can not) contain a chicken. In common usage 'chicken egg' refers to an egg from a chicken. So the mother of the first chicken did not lay a chicken egg. It layed a precursor-to-a-chicken-egg. From this egg grew a chicken which would eventually lay the first chicken egg. The chicken came before the first chicken egg. A generic egg obviously pre-exists both. is there a theory on how eggs came to exist? like, what was the predecessor to a protoegg? Probably some form of protective layer around the young that resembled an egg's exterior. Egg evolution probably doesn't exist as binaries from live birth to egg, but rather lies more on a continuum. With increasing degrees of eggyness. Source: Am chicken
Ahahahahaha
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On April 02 2014 04:18 LeeDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 20:30 Manifesto7 wrote:On April 01 2014 15:51 LeeDawg wrote:
what are the chances that I can get a job acting on the 5th season of game of thrones, factoring in the facts that I did theater for about 12 years, but don't have the appropriate accent for the show? You could be the nameless assassin that kills Tyrion. /spoilers. if that was a real spoiler, I will find you.
It wasn't isn't a real spoiler.
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Plants have unsaturated fats.
Animals have saturated fats.
Many fish have unsaturated fats.
Is a fish a plant?
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On April 02 2014 05:22 Shiragaku wrote:
Plants have unsaturated fats.
Animals have saturated fats.
Many fish have unsaturated fats.
Is a fish a plant?
We're going to need an expert for this one.
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Hopefully that sufficiently answers your question.
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How is "people of color" a politically correct term to describe non-whites, but "colored people" a racist one?
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On April 01 2014 17:43 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 16:57 Coppermantis wrote:On April 01 2014 16:48 Whitewing wrote:On April 01 2014 16:24 Levistus wrote:
If a serial killer and rapist rapes then murders my daughter, what would be the punishment if i murder him? Would it be the same as other murderers or will this be a special case? like do i get 5-10 less years in prison? i wonder if the president would pardon me if the killer had thousands of victims. i don't have a daughter and i'm not after someone, i'm just curious. In the united states, you'd be put on trial for pre-meditated murder. A jury may choose not to convict you, but the sentence is severe. Nobody gets to take the law into their own hands. Anything you can do to help the police is appreciated (within the bounds of the law), but you are required to let the agents of the law handle it. Murder is murder, regardless of your reasons. What if the guy was actively in the process of killing people, like, say, one of many mass shootings in public spaces? Suppose that someone shot him dead while in the act? I know self-defense laws vary from state to state, but would that still count as "murder" at a trial? If you are witnessing someone raping or murdering someone else you have the right to kill them in self defense. Because the victim has a right to self defense, if they're unable to defend themselves you can do the defending for them. However you have to reasonably believe you or them are in immediate danger of serious injury or death. Show nested quote +The rules are the same when force is used to protect another from danger. Generally, the defendant must have a reasonable belief that the third party is in a position where they would have the right of self-defense. For example, a person who unknowingly chances upon two actors practicing a fight would be able to defend their restraint of the one that appeared to be the aggressor. However, in many jurisdictions a person who causes injury in defense of another may be liable to criminal and civil charges if such defence turned out to be unnecessary. Most[weasel words] courts have ruled that such a defense cannot be used to protect friends or family members who have engaged in an illegal fight. Likewise, one cannot use this to aid a criminal Source
I'm half sure that if someone threatens the life of your family members, such as your child,you are entitled to self defense as if you were attacked.
If you use violence that isn't automatically lethal(hitting with blunt objects, shooting into a bodypart thats not the head or the heart etc.) and the attacker dies, you will most likely be charged with man slaughter or local equivalent. If you go for lethal violence like stabbing in the neck etc. and you had other options, you will be charged for murder.
Also in some systems you get away with killing in selfdefense better if the attacker is visibly stronger, tougher than you etc.
Think Tyrion Lannister or small asian woman being attacked by Conan the Barbarian.
You should try to just stop the attacker if possible. Killing is bad and you will be punished, especially if the court finds forum posts asking whether you may kill people given an appropriate excuse.
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On April 02 2014 06:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How is "people of color" a politically correct term to describe non-whites, but "colored people" a racist one?
I think the way it works is that terms become racist once racists start using them. So you have this eternal spiral where racists use a word, people want to distant themselves from racists, so they use another word, then the racist word becomes so infamous that racists can only use it among other racists or they have to deal with a lot of fallout, so they use the word everyone else is using among other people. Since they don't stop being racists, they tend to use that word in a negative context in general, so it slowly becomes the racist word.
On April 02 2014 07:23 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2014 17:43 OuchyDathurts wrote:On April 01 2014 16:57 Coppermantis wrote:On April 01 2014 16:48 Whitewing wrote:On April 01 2014 16:24 Levistus wrote:
If a serial killer and rapist rapes then murders my daughter, what would be the punishment if i murder him? Would it be the same as other murderers or will this be a special case? like do i get 5-10 less years in prison? i wonder if the president would pardon me if the killer had thousands of victims. i don't have a daughter and i'm not after someone, i'm just curious. In the united states, you'd be put on trial for pre-meditated murder. A jury may choose not to convict you, but the sentence is severe. Nobody gets to take the law into their own hands. Anything you can do to help the police is appreciated (within the bounds of the law), but you are required to let the agents of the law handle it. Murder is murder, regardless of your reasons. What if the guy was actively in the process of killing people, like, say, one of many mass shootings in public spaces? Suppose that someone shot him dead while in the act? I know self-defense laws vary from state to state, but would that still count as "murder" at a trial? If you are witnessing someone raping or murdering someone else you have the right to kill them in self defense. Because the victim has a right to self defense, if they're unable to defend themselves you can do the defending for them. However you have to reasonably believe you or them are in immediate danger of serious injury or death. The rules are the same when force is used to protect another from danger. Generally, the defendant must have a reasonable belief that the third party is in a position where they would have the right of self-defense. For example, a person who unknowingly chances upon two actors practicing a fight would be able to defend their restraint of the one that appeared to be the aggressor. However, in many jurisdictions a person who causes injury in defense of another may be liable to criminal and civil charges if such defence turned out to be unnecessary. Most[weasel words] courts have ruled that such a defense cannot be used to protect friends or family members who have engaged in an illegal fight. Likewise, one cannot use this to aid a criminal Source I'm half sure that if someone threatens the life of your family members, such as your child,you are entitled to self defense as if you were attacked. If you use violence that isn't automatically lethal(hitting with blunt objects, shooting into a bodypart thats not the head or the heart etc.) and the attacker dies, you will most likely be charged with man slaughter or local equivalent. If you go for lethal violence like stabbing in the neck etc. and you had other options, you will be charged for murder. Also in some systems you get away with killing in selfdefense better if the attacker is visibly stronger, tougher than you etc. Think Tyrion Lannister or small asian woman being attacked by Conan the Barbarian. You should try to just stop the attacker if possible. Killing is bad and you will be punished, especially if the court finds forum posts asking whether you may kill people given an appropriate excuse.
I am pretty sure that it does not matter who is threatened, if you have a reasonable reason to believe that someone is in danger, you can help them as if you were the person in danger. Any other law would be utterly ridiculous.
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On April 01 2014 14:28 Simberto wrote:
I still think convincing a lot of people to live in what is basically a claustrophobic nightmare wrapped in a disatrous accident waiting to happen, for no good reason except that a lunatic wants to have an underwater city, would be a lot harder then actually building said claustrophobic nightmare.
Why are u assuming u have to convince them 
You could just kidnap them if you work with infinite money
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If someone has their birthday on April Fool's Day, what are the chances that they are a fool?
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On April 02 2014 09:32 3FFA wrote:
If someone has their birthday on April Fool's Day, what are the chances that they are a fool?
They're probably less a fool and more a serial killer bent on murdering everyone who promises them a huge gift/cake and then says "APRIL FOOL LOL"
If you had the choice between receiving one billion dollars and ending world hunger, what color would your Lamborghini be?
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