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On October 24 2016 00:09 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 21:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
Best advice to give to an alcoholic that doesn't accept that *the impact of their decisions go beyond their personnel interpretations?
EDIT : Right now I'm leaning toward choking him unconscious. You can't help those who don't want to be helped. The question is, would you rather watch him destroy himself or walk away before he does?
in a deterministic universe/world/set of believes the phrase "You can't help those who don't help themselves" becomes "You can't help those who can't help themselves". unlike the former, the later lacks the bad faith which makes working with the later, more productive.
so you start seeing him as a victim then determine(contextual) the victim of what/whom is he(of biology, chemistry, physics, himself, his entourage ... etc); actually fuck that, that's the long way.
the short way: find if he's a leader or a follower. if leader, have him help someone else; if follower, give him a role model(an actual one, a real one) and a herd.
from "the impact of their decisions go beyond their personnel interpretations" he looks like a leader but it could also be that he's just stupid.
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No personal experience here, just theories.
There are men who like being penetrated, and i assume that they enjoy it if that lasts longer. There is probably an upper limit on how long they do enjoy it for, but i am pretty sure that that upper limit is a lot larger than the lower limit of how long people can last.
Thus, they might reasonably be disappointed if their expected sex time is cut short by premature ejaculation of the penetrating partner.
So, i assume that there are at least some couples where lasting a reasonable while is also important for gay men. It probably depends on the people in question.
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How do I convince my girlfriend we need to install a urinal in our home?
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She doesn't want to listen to reason!
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ZigguratOfUr
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On October 24 2016 11:23 Epishade wrote:
How do I convince my girlfriend we need to install a urinal in our home?
Explain to her that you're into Dadaist art, and want to get a replica/modern re-imagining of one of Duchamp's works. Then quickly get it installed before she objects to your artistic leanings.
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On October 24 2016 11:24 Epishade wrote:
She doesn't want to listen to reason!
Step one: Get contractor
Step two: Give friend keys and instructions to let contractor in at set date.
Step three: Surprise romantic vacation
Step four: Come home and thank her for the surprise urinal, its what you always wanted and you're so happy that she's thinking about you.
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On October 24 2016 14:10 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 11:24 Epishade wrote:
She doesn't want to listen to reason! Step one: Get contractor Step two: Give friend keys and instructions to let contractor in at set date. Step three: Surprise romantic vacation Step four: Come home and thank her for the surprise urinal, its what you always wanted and you're so happy that she's thinking about you.
I like this approach. 
Bear in mind though, step five will likely be: look for a new girlfriend.
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On October 24 2016 11:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 11:23 Epishade wrote:
How do I convince my girlfriend we need to install a urinal in our home? Explain to her that you're into Dadaist art, and want to get a replica/modern re-imagining of one of Duchamp's works. Then quickly get it installed before she objects to your artistic leanings.
Install it just like fountain, on its side too. I freakin' hate Dada.
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On October 24 2016 15:58 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 14:10 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 24 2016 11:24 Epishade wrote:
She doesn't want to listen to reason! Step one: Get contractor Step two: Give friend keys and instructions to let contractor in at set date. Step three: Surprise romantic vacation Step four: Come home and thank her for the surprise urinal, its what you always wanted and you're so happy that she's thinking about you. I like this approach. Bear in mind though, step five will likely be: look for a new girlfriend.
That's actually step 6
Step 5 is surviving the current girlfriend's surprise reaction.
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On October 24 2016 11:23 Epishade wrote:
How do I convince my girlfriend we need to install a urinal in our home?
Tell her she can use it to wash her hands. 100% success guaranteed.
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On October 25 2016 03:24 JimmiC wrote:
in reality if you have the cash and the space and she won't let you put a urinal, then fuck her. Not like it's a big deal, will make your bathroom cleaner and is just a silly luxury. I would start saying no to her on more then 2 pairs of shoes, makeup, more then 3 pairs of pants, no more then 5 shirts and so on.
The porcelain is only a couple hundred. Dunno why I expected it to be more.
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Sense of humor is important in a plumber, that and a good NDA.
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ZigguratOfUr
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On October 25 2016 03:24 JimmiC wrote:
in reality if you have the cash and the space and she won't let you put a urinal, then fuck her. Not like it's a big deal, will make your bathroom cleaner and is just a silly luxury. I would start saying no to her on more then 2 pairs of shoes, makeup, more then 3 pairs of pants, no more then 5 shirts and so on.
I wouldn't recommend it. That's a classic example of conflict escalation. You'll install your urinal, she'll retaliate by installing a Jacuzzi, and before you know it you'll have LBJ installing a shower with 6+ nozzles each outputting the volume of a firehose (including one pointed at his immense penis) with the water temperature high enough to set off the fire alarm.
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On October 25 2016 04:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2016 03:24 JimmiC wrote:
in reality if you have the cash and the space and she won't let you put a urinal, then fuck her. Not like it's a big deal, will make your bathroom cleaner and is just a silly luxury. I would start saying no to her on more then 2 pairs of shoes, makeup, more then 3 pairs of pants, no more then 5 shirts and so on. I wouldn't recommend it. That's a classic example of conflict escalation. You'll install your urinal, she'll retaliate by installing a Jacuzzi, and before you know it you'll have LBJ installing a shower with 6+ nozzles each outputting the volume of a firehose (including one pointed at his immense penis) with the water temperature high enough to set off the fire alarm.
This sounds like an argument in favor of just saying "fuck it" and installing the urinal.
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On October 24 2016 11:23 Epishade wrote:
How do I convince my girlfriend we need to install a urinal in our home?
Get a bidet.
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