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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 21 2016 21:04 GMT
#10421
On October 22 2016 05:58 OtherWorld wrote:
Disclaimer : I hesitated to post this question in the US Politics thread or here. I decided to post it here because I don't want it to go into a political debate, I just want a simple answer. So please, don't derail.

Why is the "alt-right" movement in the US called "alt-right" (as if they were an alternative to the traditional right) and not "far-right" ? I mean, they're exhibiting signs of open racism, discrimination, conspiracy theorism and historical revisionism. To me, that places them much further right on the political spectrum than the traditional right, and racism, discrimination, conspiracyism and revisionism are pretty standard features of the far-right.

Thus, why alt-right? And more precisely, why are non-alt-right medias calling them "alt-right", thus legitimizing them as an alternative to the traditional right wing?


The short answer is that names are arbitrary and not descriptive of the actual policy.

There is no such thing as either a Democrat or Republican, as there is no definition that actually maps out what a Democrat is and what a Republican is. A Dem in downtown Berkeley is different than a Dem in downtown Utah, etc...

As such, Dems and Reps are actually amalgamations of hundreds of mini-parties, each one with its own variation as to what makes them distinct (think of the splintered protestant groups in the US)

Each mini party has a name and each one affects the overall "policy" or "stance" the general party has.

Alt-Right is one of those mini parties.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5237 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-21 21:27:41
October 21 2016 21:27 GMT
#10422
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..
Taxes are for Terrans
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2016 21:52 GMT
#10423
People use whatever terms get coined. You could argue that the name ISIS legitimizes it too, but whether a term is accurate or not, legitimizing or not doesn't really matter. People just use whatever term sticks, and not only in politics.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 21 2016 22:33 GMT
#10424
On October 22 2016 06:27 Uldridge wrote:
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..


Don't be mad because you're jealous.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12073 Posts
October 21 2016 22:34 GMT
#10425
On October 22 2016 07:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 06:27 Uldridge wrote:
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..


Don't be mad because you're jealous.


I am quite certain that nearly no one is jealous of american politics.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 21 2016 22:36 GMT
#10426
On October 22 2016 07:34 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 22 2016 06:27 Uldridge wrote:
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..


Don't be mad because you're jealous.


I am quite certain that nearly no one is jealous of american politics.


I hate the automated politics other countries have. How your representatives and leaders are chosen by your parties instead of by the people. Totally bollocks in EU.

I like the strong focus on micro American Politics have where its all about that sick candidate control the public has.

#Broodwar
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-21 23:47:40
October 21 2016 23:45 GMT
#10427
On October 22 2016 07:36 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:34 Simberto wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 22 2016 06:27 Uldridge wrote:
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..


Don't be mad because you're jealous.


I am quite certain that nearly no one is jealous of american politics.


I hate the automated politics other countries have. How your representatives and leaders are chosen by your parties instead of by the people. Totally bollocks in EU.

I like the strong focus on micro American Politics have where its all about that sick candidate control the public has.

#Broodwar


Too bad the public's AI is so bad. It can't seem to ever find its path.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 21 2016 23:48 GMT
#10428
On October 22 2016 08:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 07:36 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:34 Simberto wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 22 2016 06:27 Uldridge wrote:
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..


Don't be mad because you're jealous.


I am quite certain that nearly no one is jealous of american politics.


I hate the automated politics other countries have. How your representatives and leaders are chosen by your parties instead of by the people. Totally bollocks in EU.

I like the strong focus on micro American Politics have where its all about that sick candidate control the public has.

#Broodwar


Too bad the public's AI is so bad. It keeps on running down the wrong paths.


I'm just saying that multiple-party-select will lead to lazy voting, unless you can only select one party at a time you can't show how strong your macroeconomics is. We can't cater to noobs, its not like most voters are uninformed or misled.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
October 21 2016 23:54 GMT
#10429
I want to buy a 2,000ish dollar laptop for work purposes, but don't want to save up the cash since I can only manage to work part time, are there any good financing options online? Any other general options where I can just pay like 200 a month on it 'til it's paid off? Whats the best place for minimizing interest? Is there a way to do this without having to pay interest at all?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 22 2016 01:41 GMT
#10430
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
October 22 2016 02:05 GMT
#10431
I've actually steadily built up credit over the last like 4ish years and my credit is surprisingly good, so I'm not tooo worried about credit, just wondering if there are any solid options for at least low interest, I'd put it on a card but I don't want to deal with all of the interest inherent, Im sure there are good options, just wondering if anyone has any particular ones that just to mind before I delve to far into it myself :D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 22 2016 09:15 GMT
#10432
Can you avoid getting STDs if you use antibiotic cream as lube?
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
October 22 2016 10:47 GMT
#10433
On October 22 2016 08:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 08:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:36 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:34 Simberto wrote:
On October 22 2016 07:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On October 22 2016 06:27 Uldridge wrote:
Why are you trying to make sense of the American spectrum of politics in the first place? What constitutes for left over there is like central right over here..


Don't be mad because you're jealous.


I am quite certain that nearly no one is jealous of american politics.


I hate the automated politics other countries have. How your representatives and leaders are chosen by your parties instead of by the people. Totally bollocks in EU.

I like the strong focus on micro American Politics have where its all about that sick candidate control the public has.

#Broodwar


Too bad the public's AI is so bad. It keeps on running down the wrong paths.


I'm just saying that multiple-party-select will lead to lazy voting, unless you can only select one party at a time you can't show how strong your macroeconomics is. We can't cater to noobs, its not like most voters are uninformed or misled.

Neither can you really show it in the US. Either one of the houses in congress or the presidency is usually in thw hands of the other party so policy will have to be bipartisan. There are some exceptions like the new deal and Reaganomics but nobody agrees whether they were actually positive or negative.
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
October 22 2016 10:50 GMT
#10434
On October 22 2016 18:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
Can you avoid getting STDs if you use antibiotic cream as lube?


Yes, I believe you can.

Let me know how it works out for you.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 22 2016 13:46 GMT
#10435
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 22 2016 14:45 GMT
#10436
On October 22 2016 22:46 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 18:15 Chairman Ray wrote:
Can you avoid getting STDs if you use antibiotic cream as lube?

Mix in some motor oil to get her engine really reving


If it's legit sex you can't get STDs, if you do get it it's because you didn't pull her bootstraps enough.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 09:44:15
October 23 2016 09:36 GMT
#10437
I just saw this, and it reminded me of a older question. I had to share!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Even if I saw all of them a lot, I couldn't not remember this moment on time :D
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24491 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-23 13:01:37
October 23 2016 12:58 GMT
#10438
Best advice to give to an alcoholic that doesn't accept that *the impact of their decisions go beyond their personnel interpretations?

EDIT : Right now I'm leaning toward choking him unconscious.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 23 2016 13:48 GMT
#10439
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 23 2016 15:09 GMT
#10440
On October 23 2016 21:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
Best advice to give to an alcoholic that doesn't accept that *the impact of their decisions go beyond their personnel interpretations?

EDIT : Right now I'm leaning toward choking him unconscious.


You can't help those who don't want to be helped. The question is, would you rather watch him destroy himself or walk away before he does?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
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