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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
May 16 2015 16:12 GMT
#5081
can one have varicella-zoster virus but develop chickenpox from it, years later?. somehow...
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11952 Posts
May 16 2015 16:24 GMT
#5082
I don't think so. But i am neither a doctor nor a biologist.
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
May 16 2015 16:29 GMT
#5083
In about 10–20% of cases, VZV reactivates later in life, producing a disease known as shingles or herpes zoster.
helpman173
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
20 Posts
May 16 2015 17:01 GMT
#5084
On May 17 2015 01:12 xM(Z wrote:
can one have varicella-zoster virus but develop chickenpox from it, years later?. somehow...

Varicella-zoster belongs to the family of Herpes viruses which are known for their latency.
Once you had chickenpox, they can stay dormant in the nerve cells and years later enter their normal life cycle again.
However, this manifests itself not as chickenpox but as the "shingles", the painful version of a rash, but no big deal in most cases.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
May 16 2015 18:09 GMT
#5085
tnx for answers and i know it's chickenpox then shingles from reading around, but my inquiry was if it can happen the other way around: first get shingles or whatever herpes/zoster virus variation there is and then(maybe years later) get the chickenpox.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
helpman173
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
20 Posts
May 16 2015 18:24 GMT
#5086
No, the very fact that you have shingles means that the immune system is keeping the virus at bay due to a previous infection.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 21 2015 05:04 GMT
#5087
For those who speak english as a second language but don't speak it in conversation very often: how difficult is it to understand two native English speakers having a conversation? What most often confuses people who didn't learn english as a child? Is it slang, slurred/mumbled phrases, speed of speech, figures of speech? Is it totally different based on which language is your first?

I come across many non-native speakers and would like to improve the way i communicate with them.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11952 Posts
May 21 2015 05:11 GMT
#5088
While i do understand english quite well, here is what you should NOT do, from my experience with some french people:

If someone does not understand you, do not speak loud, fast and a lot. For some reason that seemed to be the reaction a lot of them had when i couldn't understand them because my french is not very good. I guess the logic was something along the lines of "Well if he doesn't understand half of what i am saying, i'd better say double in the same time"

The correct reaction is to speak slowly, clearly and using simpler words.and sentences.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 21 2015 05:20 GMT
#5089
Ok so speak slowly, simple words. Seems pretty simple. I am really quite interested to see an answer to my question about normal conversational english.

Follow-up question, is it helpful to correct major grammar mistakes 'where am to bathrooms?' Or is it patronizing if they didn't ask for help with their english? As a general rule of course.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11952 Posts
May 21 2015 07:08 GMT
#5090
From my personal experience, unless they somehow signal to you that they wish to improve their english or you are in a situation where that is implicit, and instead just want to communicate about something else, simply politely ignore it.

And the "simple" approach shouldn't only apply to words. Almost more important is sentence structure. Remember that a part of their brain is already occupied with translating the language. Processing longer sentences with a more complex sentence structure takes more brainpower. So using more periods and a simple sentence structure instead of lots of commata and snake sentences helps a lot with making your statements easier to understand.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
May 21 2015 07:29 GMT
#5091
Also, speak in complete, correct sentences! We tend to shorten a lot of (everyday) communication, and that is challenging for someone with little practice among native speakers.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 21 2015 08:14 GMT
#5092
- I think the one most important thing is to speak at a moderate pace, and articulate decently. That's actually a good habit in most cases anyway.

- Don't correct unless asked to. Specially not if they are looking for the bathroom, silly!

- As you pointed out, the final step in fluency is to actively take part of a conversation with a group (2+) of native speakers. Quite frequently (depending on group) the next person to talk will start talking before the previous person has finished, so if you want to take part of the conversation you need to not only understand what the others are saying and formulate a reply, you need to anticipate how the sentence will end and have a reply ready in a fraction of a second. And that's damn hard to learn. Surrounding noise and so on (party setting for example) doesn't make it any easier. in 1on1, the native speaker kindof has to wait for the other to formulate the answer. So what you can do, apart from trying to keep the pace down, is to also make sure to give the non-native speaker time to say something on every topic, and give them the chance to set up new topic.

- I wouldn't bother too much with changing your language in terms of how you build sentences or what words you use, assuming you have a decently normal vocabulary.
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 09:47:22
May 21 2015 09:46 GMT
#5093
On May 21 2015 14:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
For those who speak english as a second language but don't speak it in conversation very often: how difficult is it to understand two native English speakers having a conversation? What most often confuses people who didn't learn english as a child? Is it slang, slurred/mumbled phrases, speed of speech, figures of speech? Is it totally different based on which language is your first?

I come across many non-native speakers and would like to improve the way i communicate with them.


It really varies depending on how fluent the foreigner is. In some cases you will have to slow down, stick to simple vocabulary and periphrase to avoid complexity, make sure you have their attention before starting a sentence so that they can be prepared to hear english. In others, they will just ask for a repeat when an unknown figure of speech or a slang word blocks them.

As said above, noise in the room also has a huge impact. Foreign languages get a lot harder in a noisy environment.

With a french/dutch background, having daily calls in english from abroad, I find most of the time native English easy enough. I have more trouble with India and some middle-east accents.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 21 2015 10:00 GMT
#5094
reminds me of this video, which is how english sounds to non-speakers

"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
May 21 2015 10:27 GMT
#5095
On May 21 2015 14:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok so speak slowly, simple words. Seems pretty simple. I am really quite interested to see an answer to my question about normal conversational english.

Follow-up question, is it helpful to correct major grammar mistakes 'where am to bathrooms?' Or is it patronizing if they didn't ask for help with their english? As a general rule of course.


Regarding the follow-up question, I think it is rather annoying when someone keeps correcting you all the time if you're just trying to get the message through and they actually understand what you're saying. However, even as a non-native speaker I often cringe with certain constructs some people are capable of making, so what I do is I just respond in a proper way and hope they'll learn from the response.

I find it difficult to make an example.. but like.. "We see each in 12:30 at front of shop house." And you'd respond along the lines of "Alright, let's see each other at 12:30 in the front of the shopping mall." However, I don't know how they perceive it, but I try to make it sound casual and not like I'm really trying to correct them.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
May 21 2015 11:24 GMT
#5096
Weirdo question here.
When i'm sick, i dont take drugs in order to heal faster because i think thant my body can handle the pain and heal alone. It takes more times and more suffer, but one day, when i will get something really bad, i think that drugs will be more effective on me in that way.

Is that true or ma i completly idiot ?

I ask this here cuz i talk about that with my gf and sh's telling me that i'm dumb :o
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
helpman175
Profile Joined May 2015
17 Posts
May 21 2015 11:31 GMT
#5097
On May 21 2015 20:24 VelJa wrote:
Weirdo question here.
When i'm sick, i dont take drugs in order to heal faster because i think thant my body can handle the pain and heal alone. It takes more times and more suffer, but one day, when i will get something really bad, i think that drugs will be more effective on me in that way.

Is that true or ma i completly idiot ?

I ask this here cuz i talk about that with my gf and sh's telling me that i'm dumb :o

If you mean the common cold then you are right. There is no cure for it.
It takes a set amount of days, no matter what you do.
All you can do is treat the symptoms which is basically pointless (and not very manly to be honest).
It makes sure that the pharma industry does prosper though if you are worried about the industry as a whole.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
May 21 2015 11:51 GMT
#5098
not only common cold
headache
gastroenteritis
minor sprain
flu

all those little shit
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 11:57:13
May 21 2015 11:52 GMT
#5099
On May 21 2015 20:31 helpman175 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 20:24 VelJa wrote:
Weirdo question here.
When i'm sick, i dont take drugs in order to heal faster because i think thant my body can handle the pain and heal alone. It takes more times and more suffer, but one day, when i will get something really bad, i think that drugs will be more effective on me in that way.

Is that true or ma i completly idiot ?

I ask this here cuz i talk about that with my gf and sh's telling me that i'm dumb :o

If you mean the common cold then you are right. There is no cure for it.
It takes a set amount of days, no matter what you do.
All you can do is treat the symptoms which is basically pointless (and not very manly to be honest).
It makes sure that the pharma industry does prosper though if you are worried about the industry as a whole.

Treating symptoms is far from pointless.

@VelJa : not taking drugs for standard cold, headache, etc is not an issue as long as : (1) you don't go too far with this (if you ever get a cancer please treat it seriously) and (2) you do this only for ponctual issues (ie a ponctual gastroenteritis is not something to be worried about, but chronic gastroenteritis can be indicative of something not good). Although your original reasoning is kinda flawed, since drugs act very differently from each others and you usually don't use the same drugs to heal minor and major health issues.
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
May 21 2015 11:54 GMT
#5100
On May 21 2015 20:52 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 20:31 helpman175 wrote:
On May 21 2015 20:24 VelJa wrote:
Weirdo question here.
When i'm sick, i dont take drugs in order to heal faster because i think thant my body can handle the pain and heal alone. It takes more times and more suffer, but one day, when i will get something really bad, i think that drugs will be more effective on me in that way.

Is that true or ma i completly idiot ?

I ask this here cuz i talk about that with my gf and sh's telling me that i'm dumb :o

If you mean the common cold then you are right. There is no cure for it.
It takes a set amount of days, no matter what you do.
All you can do is treat the symptoms which is basically pointless (and not very manly to be honest).
It makes sure that the pharma industry does prosper though if you are worried about the industry as a whole.

Treating symptoms is far from pointless.

agreed, but that's absolutly not the question xD
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
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