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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 19:58:36
May 12 2015 19:51 GMT
#5001
On May 13 2015 03:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 02:46 Yoav wrote:
On May 13 2015 01:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 13 2015 00:04 Zdrastochye wrote:
How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?

That question itself is full of pseudo-intellectualism, since said pseudo-intellectualism pretty much always existed.


But does this response contain pseudo-intellectualism? Where does it end???


If we're honestly assessing these responses, then I don't think "How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?" is pseudo-intellectual, as such a question could very well be assessed empirically and not merely asked as a stunt to look smart (by, say, term-dropping "pseudo-intellectualism").

For example, we could have the perspective that perhaps without such access to misinformation (and not truly understanding what information is accurate) on the internet, coupled with the fact that now people have global and social networking podiums and forums to say pretty much anything they want, it's much easier for people to become pseudo-intellectual. Before the internet, I'd imagine it was much harder to spread your smug and absurd opinion. Simply put, any idiot can write a blog now.

Fair enough, the Internet allows for an easier spread of bullshit on a bigger scale. But that's just a change in scale ; wanting to look smart has always been what lazy opportunists or attention-needing kids did, for the simple reason that it can lead to surprisingly good results on easily impressed people. Though it should be noted that the Internet also allows for pseudo-intellectuals to be called out more easily than in a real situation.

On May 13 2015 04:45 helpman173 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 00:04 Zdrastochye wrote:
How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?

I'm wondering where you draw the line between intellectuals and pseudointellectuals?

Wikipedia says:
"Pseudointellectuals are self-described intellectuals who fail to adhere to rigorous standards of scholarship"

So if I throw in some citations and use high-brow language am I save from being called a pseudo-intellectual?

Consider the following people:
Juergen Habermas
Shira Tarrant
Lars Peter Hansen
Anthony Giddens
Noam Chomsky

They are all certainly considered intellectuals, but do they all follow "rigorous standards of scholarship"?
How are those rigorous standards defined? When is something not "rigorous" anymore?
Where does the pseudointellectual end and the intellectual begin?

I see two kinds of pseudo-intellectuals : on a "professional" level, it's indeed what wikipedia defines (for example a historian who would write a book without factual research behind it, but who still would present it as if it was a valid history book) and on a more broad level, it's the people who try to look intellectual (look smart) without being actual intellectuals (ie the false mathematician from a few pages ago).
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24046 Posts
May 12 2015 20:01 GMT
#5002
On May 13 2015 04:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 03:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 13 2015 02:46 Yoav wrote:
On May 13 2015 01:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 13 2015 00:04 Zdrastochye wrote:
How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?

That question itself is full of pseudo-intellectualism, since said pseudo-intellectualism pretty much always existed.


But does this response contain pseudo-intellectualism? Where does it end???


If we're honestly assessing these responses, then I don't think "How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?" is pseudo-intellectual, as such a question could very well be assessed empirically and not merely asked as a stunt to look smart (by, say, term-dropping "pseudo-intellectualism").

For example, we could have the perspective that perhaps without such access to misinformation (and not truly understanding what information is accurate) on the internet, coupled with the fact that now people have global and social networking podiums and forums to say pretty much anything they want, it's much easier for people to become pseudo-intellectual. Before the internet, I'd imagine it was much harder to spread your smug and absurd opinion. Simply put, any idiot can write a blog now.

Fair enough, the Internet allows for an easier spread of bullshit on a bigger scale. But that's just a change in scale ; wanting to look smart has always been what lazy opportunists or attention-needing kids did, for the simple reason that it can lead to surprisingly good results on easily impressed people. Though it should be noted that the Internet also allows for pseudo-intellectuals to be called out more easily than in a real situation.



Google on phones has been the greatest gift to dealing with pricks like that. There is little more gratifying than taking a cocksure asshole and pointing to a reliable source that shits all over their point. Particularly when everyone listening to them just signed on to it because it fit their preconceived notions.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 20:41:59
May 12 2015 20:39 GMT
#5003
On May 13 2015 05:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 04:51 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 13 2015 03:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 13 2015 02:46 Yoav wrote:
On May 13 2015 01:06 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 13 2015 00:04 Zdrastochye wrote:
How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?

That question itself is full of pseudo-intellectualism, since said pseudo-intellectualism pretty much always existed.


But does this response contain pseudo-intellectualism? Where does it end???


If we're honestly assessing these responses, then I don't think "How screwed would pseudo-intellectualism be if the Internet ceased to exist?" is pseudo-intellectual, as such a question could very well be assessed empirically and not merely asked as a stunt to look smart (by, say, term-dropping "pseudo-intellectualism").

For example, we could have the perspective that perhaps without such access to misinformation (and not truly understanding what information is accurate) on the internet, coupled with the fact that now people have global and social networking podiums and forums to say pretty much anything they want, it's much easier for people to become pseudo-intellectual. Before the internet, I'd imagine it was much harder to spread your smug and absurd opinion. Simply put, any idiot can write a blog now.

Fair enough, the Internet allows for an easier spread of bullshit on a bigger scale. But that's just a change in scale ; wanting to look smart has always been what lazy opportunists or attention-needing kids did, for the simple reason that it can lead to surprisingly good results on easily impressed people. Though it should be noted that the Internet also allows for pseudo-intellectuals to be called out more easily than in a real situation.



Google on phones has been the greatest gift to dealing with pricks like that. There is little more gratifying than taking a cocksure asshole and pointing to a reliable source that shits all over their point. Particularly when everyone listening to them just signed on to it because it fit their preconceived notions.


Definitely relevant:

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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 12 2015 20:54 GMT
#5004
I have no doubt there was equal amounts of pseudo-intellectualism (which isn't that intelligent of a word, it literally just means sorta kinda smart about something) before the Internet, but it was harder to hear or see these people because unless you knew them in real life or they were famous enough to get published in the newspaper then you wouldn't have any interactions with them. What my question was asking was if the Internet ceased to exist now, how screwed would those people who are so accustomed to being able to look things up online be?

Remember this is a stupid question thread, so I'm being very deliberate in how stupid this is.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11895 Posts
May 12 2015 21:01 GMT
#5005
Well, i know for a fact that i would be screwed. I am so used to have information about any subject 5 seconds of google search away, i'd stop functioning (Or at least be a lot less efficient at doing things) without the internet to look things up on.

And i totally expect there to be a fast and easily useable way to use the internet on the go in the next 20 years. I don't count smartphones since they are still pretty slow to use, i want something way more SciFi like glasses that i can use with my brain. Also the amount of people running into each other because they are watching porn on their internet glasses would be hilarious. I fully expect the second AR app to be a nude patch.
Trizztein
Profile Joined August 2014
Canada45 Posts
May 12 2015 21:02 GMT
#5006
Hello, so my question is:

I've been trying to study certain aspects of the current map pool, but in order to do so I sometimes need to go far in the tech tree and wish to do so while not having to take care of an opponent (so best I've found is vs very easy AI). For example, I want to know if I it's possible to blink on certain spots on maps, on every map, test certain walls etc. ... but testing it is a rather long process (you gotta reach the tech for every new map). Are there any mods/cheats/techniques that could allow me to reach the army I want to reach on any given map quickly? Thank you.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24046 Posts
May 12 2015 21:14 GMT
#5007
On May 13 2015 05:54 Zdrastochye wrote:
I have no doubt there was equal amounts of pseudo-intellectualism (which isn't that intelligent of a word, it literally just means sorta kinda smart about something) before the Internet, but it was harder to hear or see these people because unless you knew them in real life or they were famous enough to get published in the newspaper then you wouldn't have any interactions with them. What my question was asking was if the Internet ceased to exist now, how screwed would those people who are so accustomed to being able to look things up online be?

Remember this is a stupid question thread, so I'm being very deliberate in how stupid this is.


I am old enough, my school poor enough, and my memory just good enough that I still remember how to find information using a library (without a computer).

Admittedly though I don't have a knack for remembering names and sources so I would be SOL in conversation where citations were expected (outside of a library).

I don't really consider myself an intellectual though, just informed enough to have poignant opinions. Which I imagine often gets mistaken for a 'pseudo-intellectual'
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
May 12 2015 21:17 GMT
#5008
On May 13 2015 05:54 Zdrastochye wrote:
I have no doubt there was equal amounts of pseudo-intellectualism (which isn't that intelligent of a word, it literally just means sorta kinda smart about something) before the Internet, but it was harder to hear or see these people because unless you knew them in real life or they were famous enough to get published in the newspaper then you wouldn't have any interactions with them. What my question was asking was if the Internet ceased to exist now, how screwed would those people who are so accustomed to being able to look things up online be?

Remember this is a stupid question thread, so I'm being very deliberate in how stupid this is.


Go to any college or university and you'll find them in droves. It's actually pretty funny.
Dantak
Profile Joined January 2006
Czech Republic648 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 22:54:09
May 12 2015 22:51 GMT
#5009
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:



or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 23:03:35
May 12 2015 22:59 GMT
#5010
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s

It is a reality show, meaning not reality at all. You'll find like, chipper demeanor in various corporations, but they are hamming it up for the sake of the show/their product.

In most cases for that show, the products that actually get picked up are regionally well known, or have established some foothold in the market. They just play up the pitch for the sake of TV.

Long story short, if it is marketed as reality TV, no one acts like that irl.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 23:30:31
May 12 2015 23:29 GMT
#5011
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


Short answer: no, we're not like that; that's TV.

Long answer: people in the US are more openly upbeat/friendly than the European cultures with which I have familiarity. It's on a spectrum everywhere I'm aware of, in the US for instance people openness is basically South>Mountain>Midwest>West Coast>Northeast. In Europe you can find a similar thing in a lot of places; while the general picture is more on the closed-off/unfriendly/unemotional side, the Mediterranean countries have less of this than, say, Germany.

To an American, many Europeans end up coming off as negative, nasty, or rude. To a European, many Americans can come across as vapid, superficial, or phony. It's not really a substantive thing, just a cultural difference. Makes it easier in Europe to tell if someone dislikes you, but makes it easier in USA to get help from a stranger.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24046 Posts
May 12 2015 23:32 GMT
#5012
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


I'm not sure about Eastern Europe but the US tolerates a lot more bullshit/hotair when it comes to selling crap than most of Europe.

If you think sharktank is bad, watch the Home Shopping Network or an infomercial.

The only reason I've got for why, is that despite the falseness, it still works sickeningly well.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 12 2015 23:44 GMT
#5013
On May 13 2015 08:29 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


Short answer: no, we're not like that; that's TV.

Long answer: people in the US are more openly upbeat/friendly than the European cultures with which I have familiarity. It's on a spectrum everywhere I'm aware of, in the US for instance people openness is basically South>Mountain>Midwest>West Coast>Northeast. In Europe you can find a similar thing in a lot of places; while the general picture is more on the closed-off/unfriendly/unemotional side, the Mediterranean countries have less of this than, say, Germany.

To an American, many Europeans end up coming off as negative, nasty, or rude. To a European, many Americans can come across as vapid, superficial, or phony. It's not really a substantive thing, just a cultural difference. Makes it easier in Europe to tell if someone dislikes you, but makes it easier in USA to get help from a stranger.

2:nding this. I can't comment on the openness within US as I haven't enough first hand information, but otherwise I agree. I find the north-south relationship a bit reversed in Australia, confirming that it is a matter of climate rather than direction on the map.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
May 13 2015 13:33 GMT
#5014
On May 13 2015 06:02 Trizztein wrote:
Hello, so my question is:

I've been trying to study certain aspects of the current map pool, but in order to do so I sometimes need to go far in the tech tree and wish to do so while not having to take care of an opponent (so best I've found is vs very easy AI). For example, I want to know if I it's possible to blink on certain spots on maps, on every map, test certain walls etc. ... but testing it is a rather long process (you gotta reach the tech for every new map). Are there any mods/cheats/techniques that could allow me to reach the army I want to reach on any given map quickly? Thank you.

You should try posting your question here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/187808-simple-questions-simple-answers

I don't play SC2 so can't help any further I'm afraid.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 13 2015 13:42 GMT
#5015
On May 13 2015 08:29 Yoav wrote:
Short answer: no, we're not like that; that's TV.

Long answer: people in the US are more openly upbeat/friendly than the European cultures with which I have familiarity. It's on a spectrum everywhere I'm aware of, in the US for instance people openness is basically South>Mountain>Midwest>West Coast>Northeast. In Europe you can find a similar thing in a lot of places; while the general picture is more on the closed-off/unfriendly/unemotional side, the Mediterranean countries have less of this than, say, Germany.

To an American, many Europeans end up coming off as negative, nasty, or rude. To a European, many Americans can come across as vapid, superficial, or phony. It's not really a substantive thing, just a cultural difference. Makes it easier in Europe to tell if someone dislikes you, but makes it easier in USA to get help from a stranger.


Bolded that part, I think you are actually spot on even if it's just a general rule of thumb kind of analysis.

And I agree with most of the posters above, faking enthusiasm is usually left for television shows, and in the real business world it's much less superficial.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 13 2015 13:52 GMT
#5016
On May 13 2015 08:29 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


Short answer: no, we're not like that; that's TV.

Long answer: people in the US are more openly upbeat/friendly than the European cultures with which I have familiarity. It's on a spectrum everywhere I'm aware of, in the US for instance people openness is basically South>Mountain>Midwest>West Coast>Northeast. In Europe you can find a similar thing in a lot of places; while the general picture is more on the closed-off/unfriendly/unemotional side, the Mediterranean countries have less of this than, say, Germany.

To an American, many Europeans end up coming off as negative, nasty, or rude. To a European, many Americans can come across as vapid, superficial, or phony. It's not really a substantive thing, just a cultural difference. Makes it easier in Europe to tell if someone dislikes you, but makes it easier in USA to get help from a stranger.

I'd say the Midwest is a bit more closed off than west coast but I am splitting hairs. One thing you hear a fair bit being in Minnesota at least, is that people will be insanely nice to you but never invite you over.

We even have a term called Minnesota nice, which is very friendly in public, then we both acknowledge we're going our separate ways, end of social expectation. Well reflected in the comic below, using personal space as an analogy, especially given most of my state at least is of Norwegian/Swedish descent, with a splash of German.

http://i.imgur.com/AzZMGph.png
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 13 2015 14:38 GMT
#5017
On May 13 2015 22:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:29 Yoav wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


Short answer: no, we're not like that; that's TV.

Long answer: people in the US are more openly upbeat/friendly than the European cultures with which I have familiarity. It's on a spectrum everywhere I'm aware of, in the US for instance people openness is basically South>Mountain>Midwest>West Coast>Northeast. In Europe you can find a similar thing in a lot of places; while the general picture is more on the closed-off/unfriendly/unemotional side, the Mediterranean countries have less of this than, say, Germany.

To an American, many Europeans end up coming off as negative, nasty, or rude. To a European, many Americans can come across as vapid, superficial, or phony. It's not really a substantive thing, just a cultural difference. Makes it easier in Europe to tell if someone dislikes you, but makes it easier in USA to get help from a stranger.

I'd say the Midwest is a bit more closed off than west coast but I am splitting hairs. One thing you hear a fair bit being in Minnesota at least, is that people will be insanely nice to you but never invite you over.

We even have a term called Minnesota nice, which is very friendly in public, then we both acknowledge we're going our separate ways, end of social expectation. Well reflected in the comic below, using personal space as an analogy, especially given most of my state at least is of Norwegian/Swedish descent, with a splash of German.

http://i.imgur.com/AzZMGph.png


West Coast nice is where we're willing to be nice to people only if others we know/social media is watching. We don't invite them over regardless.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 13 2015 15:24 GMT
#5018
On May 13 2015 23:38 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 22:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:29 Yoav wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


Short answer: no, we're not like that; that's TV.

Long answer: people in the US are more openly upbeat/friendly than the European cultures with which I have familiarity. It's on a spectrum everywhere I'm aware of, in the US for instance people openness is basically South>Mountain>Midwest>West Coast>Northeast. In Europe you can find a similar thing in a lot of places; while the general picture is more on the closed-off/unfriendly/unemotional side, the Mediterranean countries have less of this than, say, Germany.

To an American, many Europeans end up coming off as negative, nasty, or rude. To a European, many Americans can come across as vapid, superficial, or phony. It's not really a substantive thing, just a cultural difference. Makes it easier in Europe to tell if someone dislikes you, but makes it easier in USA to get help from a stranger.

I'd say the Midwest is a bit more closed off than west coast but I am splitting hairs. One thing you hear a fair bit being in Minnesota at least, is that people will be insanely nice to you but never invite you over.

We even have a term called Minnesota nice, which is very friendly in public, then we both acknowledge we're going our separate ways, end of social expectation. Well reflected in the comic below, using personal space as an analogy, especially given most of my state at least is of Norwegian/Swedish descent, with a splash of German.

http://i.imgur.com/AzZMGph.png


West Coast nice is where we're willing to be nice to people only if others we know/social media is watching. We don't invite them over regardless.

Hahahaha politeness through paranoia.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10908 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 15:53:09
May 13 2015 15:49 GMT
#5019
On May 13 2015 08:32 GreenHorizons wrote:
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On May 13 2015 07:51 PetrBlaha wrote:
Question for people in US: recently I've been watching some episodes of Shark Tank. Do "normal" U.S people really present their ideas/talk like this? For me (cold European) it seems soooo fake and over-done. Like those fake smiles or that over enthusiasm... I just don't get it, explain that to me please :-).

for example this:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=9m51s

or that:

https://youtu.be/2BUxAR-OMI4?t=29m33s


I'm not sure about Eastern Europe but the US tolerates a lot more bullshit/hotair when it comes to selling crap than most of Europe.

If you think sharktank is bad, watch the Home Shopping Network or an infomercial.

The only reason I've got for why, is that despite the falseness, it still works sickeningly well.



We used to have these. DUBBED!

It was the most awesome shit to watch when you were ~15 and stoned :D

The one für Quick'n'brite was the best. That shit just cleaned everything and everyone got super excited :D
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 22:08:16
May 13 2015 22:08 GMT
#5020
Why is it so hard for some people to understand women can be sexist against other women, Mexicans racist against Mexicans, gays can be homophobic, etc...?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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