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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:08 GreenHorizons wrote: Why is it so hard for some people to understand women can be sexist against other women, Mexicans racist against Mexicans, gays can be homophobic, etc...? It involves subtleties not suitable for most situations in which such a conversation/debate would occur. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:09 ThomasjServo wrote: It involves subtleties not suitable for most situations in which such a conversation/debate would occur. Honestly it's simpler to me than suggesting there is "an up" or "a down" yet people grab onto that with no problem. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:12 GreenHorizons wrote: Honestly it's simpler to me than suggesting there is "an up" or "a down" yet people grab onto that with no problem. How do you mean, not sure I follow completely. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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StreetDog
Australia11 Posts
I'm trying to buy a laptop bag, but I want to ensure that the bag is big enough before I buy it. The problem is that I don't know how big my laptop is, however, I'm positive its less than 17" because I feel as though 17" would make it huge and it's not a huge huge laptop. So the bag's length and width on the interior is 14.5" and 11", I'm wondering if using Pythagoras is an effective way to discern what screen size laptop would fit in this bag. Unless I'm crazy, it should roughly be able to fit a laptop with a screen size of 18" according to that idea. Basically my stupid question is . . . Does all this make sense? It's a pretty big investment for me so I need to be sure that the laptop will fit in the bag. My laptop is in another country and the bag brand doesn't have outlets so I've got to logic my way through this. Obviously there's margin for error with screen borders and such, but the borders on my laptop aren't that large so it cant be more than an inch, and I'm willing to be that the screen isn't more than 17" so it should be fine. Thanks for any time spent on this  | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:47 StreetDog wrote: Hi guys, stupid question here. I'm trying to buy a laptop bag, but I want to ensure that the bag is big enough before I buy it. The problem is that I don't know how big my laptop is, however, I'm positive its less than 17" because I feel as though 17" would make it huge and it's not a huge huge laptop. So the bag's length and width on the interior is 14.5" and 11", I'm wondering if using Pythagoras is an effective way to discern what screen size laptop would fit in this bag. Unless I'm crazy, it should roughly be able to fit a laptop with a screen size of 18" according to that idea. Basically my stupid question is . . . Does all this make sense? It's a pretty big investment for me so I need to be sure that the laptop will fit in the bag. My laptop is in another country and the bag brand doesn't have outlets so I've got to logic my way through this. Obviously there's margin for error with screen borders and such, but the borders on my laptop aren't that large so it cant be more than an inch, and I'm willing to be that the screen isn't more than 17" so it should be fine. Thanks for any time spent on this Reasonably certain you can check the serial number or model number against new egg to get an approximation of the actual dimensions. I would recommend checking against new egg reviews to make sure you're good to go, but that is where I would start. | ||
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StreetDog
Australia11 Posts
The issue is that without my laptop I can't check things like that. It's literally in another country to me right now and I don't recall the model. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:14 ThomasjServo wrote: How do you mean, not sure I follow completely. Well if you point 'up' or 'down' in China vs Australia vs USA and went that direction for 10,000 miles you end up going very different directions depending on which combination. That to me is a lot harder to wrap my head around than the idea that having a certain skin color doesn't prevent one from being racist (treat someone unfairly because of their skin color) against people with similar skin color. Isn't there some negative stereotype about white people that other white/asian people catch themselves unfairly attributing to someone because they are white/asian? Or been on the other side? Where another white/asian person made unfair assumptions based off your skin color. The one that comes to mind is when a white person accuses another white person of being racist because they have a shaved head or something? Using the loose understanding of the term known here isn't that obviously white on white racism? | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:51 StreetDog wrote: @Thomas The issue is that without my laptop I can't check things like that. It's literally in another country to me right now and I don't recall the model. Well find an electronics shop. Find a laptop that reminds you of your own size-wise. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:54 GreenHorizons wrote: Well if you point 'up' or 'down' in China vs Australia vs USA and went that direction for 10,000 miles you end up going very different directions depending on which combination. That to me is a lot harder to wrap my head around than the idea that having a certain skin color doesn't prevent one from being racist (treat someone unfairly because of their skin color) against people with similar skin color. Isn't there some negative stereotype about white people that other white/asian people catch themselves unfairly attributing to someone because they are white/asian? Or been on the other side? Where another white/asian person made unfair assumptions based off your skin color. The one that comes to mind is when a white person accuses another white person of being racist because they have a shaved head or something? Using the loose understanding of the term known here isn't that obviously white on white racism? Well reverse racism is a thing, but you're being rather hyperbolic. Functionally we are talking very similar things, racism isn't exclusively white, never has/will be. What you are pointing out seems to be that the popular dialog on race stems largely from a Euro-centric, or largely white perspective. On May 14 2015 07:51 StreetDog wrote: @Thomas The issue is that without my laptop I can't check things like that. It's literally in another country to me right now and I don't recall the model. I mean if you are splitting pennies man, it would be worth either A. just ordering a backpack, or B. waiting for a response from whomever has the laptop in quest. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11519 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:51 StreetDog wrote: @Thomas The issue is that without my laptop I can't check things like that. It's literally in another country to me right now and I don't recall the model. Finding the model number would be the best way to solve this problem. I assume you can not ask anyone near your laptop to tell you? Other silly ideas: Compare things to your images of your laptop, find the closest thing to your laptop in size you can find, than measure it. Wait until you have your laptop. Why would you need a bag when you don't have a laptop? Order 3 different sizes, return those that don't fit. Pythagoras doesn't really help you if you have none of the lengths, and trigonometry doesn't help you if you have none of the angles or sides. I can see no way for logic or maths to solve this problem since you have literally no information at all, and logic is only capable of deriving additional information from information you already have. Thus, you have to either trust your rough idea of your laptops size, or wait until you get your hands onto it again. | ||
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StreetDog
Australia11 Posts
I can't do that from here unfortunately. I guess my main issue with figuring it out on my own is that I don't quite understand the ratio for width and length on screens. When I realised that before I did some research to learn about it. So I've discerned that my laptop is probably 15.6" and that i t wouldn't fit in the bag, which is a crying shame. @Thomas Yeah I can return the bag if it doesn't fit, but I'd have a lot more peace of mind knowing beforehand. The response is about a day away unfortunately, and with delivery times, it'd arrive the day I get back if I ordered today. It's a birthday present for myself so I wanted it to be there waiting. I think my conclusion is that it wouldn't fit, but I'll remain hopeful for the actual measurements from the homefront. Thanks for your help guys, have a nice day! | ||
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StreetDog
Australia11 Posts
Yes you're right. The issue was that I didn't understand the basics of screen ratios, but the information i 'did have' was the assumption that the screen was smaller than a certain size. However without understanding ratios for screens it was meaningless for me to try to understand a kind of 'maximum' potential laptop size. In any case I remembered it's a vivobook just now and it's probably the 15.6" which would make it not fit. If I hear that it's smaller I'll be able to get the bag and will be a very happy freshly broke bogan. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
And then, a too big case isn't the end of the world, while a too small case is pretty worthless. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On May 14 2015 07:59 ThomasjServo wrote: Well reverse racism is a thing, but you're being rather hyperbolic. Functionally we are talking very similar things, racism isn't exclusively white, never has/will be. What you are pointing out seems to be that the popular dialog on race stems largely from a Euro-centric, or largely white perspective. I mean if you are splitting pennies man, it would be worth either A. just ordering a backpack, or B. waiting for a response from whomever has the laptop in quest. That's not what I was saying. I was saying white people experience what is known here as racism from other whites yet it seems hard for (mostly white) people to understand that people can be racist against their own race or sexist against their own sex. Reverse racism is a dumb term though. Racism is racism if we're using the word like most here do. There's no reason to throw a 'reverse' in front of it. EDIT: So am I wrong and most people here know racism or sexism can be black on black or woman on woman or whatever and it's a really stupid question? Or is it too hard to put into words why it's hard to understand? or Are people just still under the belief that black people can't be racist to black people or women sexist etc...? or something else? | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
Is Santiago Bernabéu known as a fascist? The former president of Real Madrid and the stadium is named after him. edit: I mean in a way people speak about germans from the time of world war 2 with "he is a nazi". | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On May 14 2015 10:10 Thieving Magpie wrote: Most people defend themselves from isms by saying they know blacks/women/etc... Meaning most people on TL can't grok black on black or woman on woman isms. But the white on white example sticks? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On May 14 2015 10:09 greenelve wrote: This question goes mainly to people from spain. And also serious question. Is Santiago Bernabéu known as a fascist? The former president of Real Madrid and the stadium is named after him. edit: I mean in a way people speak about germans from the time of world war 2 with "he is a nazi". Barça fans say he was a fiñthy Franco loving fascist pig. Does that help you? | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
On May 14 2015 12:01 Acrofales wrote: Barça fans say he was a fiñthy Franco loving fascist pig. Does that help you? Well, it does. And how does non-Barca fans see it? Because at the end...they are Barca fans and the clubs does have a deeply rivalry. | ||
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