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iremnant3847
Profile Joined June 2012
Taiwan269 Posts
June 04 2014 03:42 GMT
#2061
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
June 04 2014 07:55 GMT
#2062
On June 04 2014 12:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 12:21 farvacola wrote:
It's both. Prostitution porn is a thing.

Would it be legal though?

This is hypothetical. I don't even know where the nearest prostitutes in my area are. Or want to know.


If you secretly video-tape it and the cops bust you for soliciting a prostitute, you can point to the camera and tell them you were shooting porn instead!
-Internet Lawyer Epishade.
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 04 2014 11:52 GMT
#2063
On June 04 2014 16:55 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 12:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 04 2014 12:21 farvacola wrote:
It's both. Prostitution porn is a thing.

Would it be legal though?

This is hypothetical. I don't even know where the nearest prostitutes in my area are. Or want to know.


If you secretly video-tape it and the cops bust you for soliciting a prostitute, you can point to the camera and tell them you were shooting porn instead!
-Internet Lawyer Epishade.


If you have proof of a porn0 (signed contract) then it doesn't matter if they actually were prostitutes.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11557 Posts
June 04 2014 12:36 GMT
#2064
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.


Price mostly, also personal taste. And herd mentality. So if one of the guys say "Hey xyz is really good", unless it makes you puke just smelling it, most people will go "yeah". This is especially true for groups of drunk teenagers.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 04 2014 12:49 GMT
#2065
On June 04 2014 12:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 12:21 farvacola wrote:
It's both. Prostitution porn is a thing.

Would it be legal though?

This is hypothetical. I don't even know where the nearest prostitutes in my area are. Or want to know.

excuses

Few years ago, one politician in my country asked if you can actually rape a prostitute, lol.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
June 04 2014 13:56 GMT
#2066
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.

A lot of "better" liquors will be aged significantly and may be filtered (often several times). A combination of these two factors along with higher quality ingredients generally lead to smoother tasting liquor. At least that's my understanding.

On June 03 2014 22:23 Simberto wrote:
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On June 03 2014 20:31 urboss wrote:
Why do most Americans have personal debt?


I think it has something to do with the combination of education system and housing system. Basically, you need to either be absurdly rich or go into debt if you want an education, because it is absurdly expensive. That is a systematic failure of course.

The housing one is weirder, though. Where a european might rent a flat, and american will buy it on credit instead, so that he actually owns it (ignoring the fact that it is actually the bank who owns that house/flat). This again means that everyone has a debt because the bank owns the place he lives in. And i don't think actually paying that debt off is generally a part of the plan.

Also, car notes. And some people who make poor decisions with their credit cards.

But it's generally a much better decision to buy a house if you can afford the note. The basic idea is that when renting property, you are not investing your money, but rather spending it. When purchasing a house, the bank owns it until you are able to pay it off, but the house is will eventually be entirely yours and will be factored into your net worth. It's an investment rather than an outright expense. If you're purchasing a house without the means to ever pay it off then you're doing it wrong. Not saying it doesn't happen, though.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States987 Posts
June 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#2067
On June 04 2014 11:23 icystorage wrote:
i want to buy earphones with mic and my only option for now is this
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-hammerhead-pro
anybody with experience regarding earphones can give me other options?


Razer audio/mic periphs are pretty bad. I literally tried and tested almost all of their products.

You'll be happier with 10$ or less ones from something like amazon
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
June 04 2014 19:44 GMT
#2068
Why there is a cylinder hat on TeamLiquid horse?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 04 2014 19:46 GMT
#2069
On June 05 2014 04:44 wingpawn wrote:
Why there is a cylinder hat on TeamLiquid horse?

to support total biscuit in his battle against cancer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451831-the-tl-top-hat
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 20:22:57
June 04 2014 20:22 GMT
#2070
On June 04 2014 22:56 o29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.

A lot of "better" liquors will be aged significantly and may be filtered (often several times). A combination of these two factors along with higher quality ingredients generally lead to smoother tasting liquor. At least that's my understanding.


Eh, how true is that really though?

Smirnoff for example, one of the cheapest Vodkas, that are like $22 for a 750ml bottle is "Triple Distilled"... And because of that, I don't think the number of times something has been distilled is a very good indicator.

And as for aged liquor, once again. Aged liquor is a lot more expensive, but most people cannot differentiate the taste of aged liquor and not, not only that, even if it tastes different, I wouldn't say it tastes better, and many would agree.

For younger people especially, the only things that determine what liquor is good is (1) it's cost (lol), and (2) how easy it's to swallow it. There is no real way to judge the quality. It's one of those things where if people buy $500 jeans, they call other jeans that cost a hundred dollars crap when there is no real difference in practical use. In no is a $5000 bottle of wine somehow 500x better than a regular bottle of wine. It's the feeling of being classy, placebo effect, or whatever you want to call it.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Zen5034
Profile Joined July 2011
United States384 Posts
June 04 2014 21:03 GMT
#2071
On June 05 2014 05:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 22:56 o29 wrote:
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.

A lot of "better" liquors will be aged significantly and may be filtered (often several times). A combination of these two factors along with higher quality ingredients generally lead to smoother tasting liquor. At least that's my understanding.


Eh, how true is that really though?

Smirnoff for example, one of the cheapest Vodkas, that are like $22 for a 750ml bottle is "Triple Distilled"... And because of that, I don't think the number of times something has been distilled is a very good indicator.

And as for aged liquor, once again. Aged liquor is a lot more expensive, but most people cannot differentiate the taste of aged liquor and not, not only that, even if it tastes different, I wouldn't say it tastes better, and many would agree.

For younger people especially, the only things that determine what liquor is good is (1) it's cost (lol), and (2) how easy it's to swallow it. There is no real way to judge the quality. It's one of those things where if people buy $500 jeans, they call other jeans that cost a hundred dollars crap when there is no real difference in practical use. In no is a $5000 bottle of wine somehow 500x better than a regular bottle of wine. It's the feeling of being classy, placebo effect, or whatever you want to call it.

Just to add my own experience, one of my favorite vodkas when I used to drink was Ciroc and that is distilled five times. It was much better than Smirnoff, and personally I thought it was better than Grey Goose or Belvedere. It may be also be because Ciroc is made from grapes rather than potatoes or wheat or whatever in the other vodkas.
Jaedong!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11557 Posts
June 04 2014 22:06 GMT
#2072
On June 05 2014 05:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 22:56 o29 wrote:
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.

A lot of "better" liquors will be aged significantly and may be filtered (often several times). A combination of these two factors along with higher quality ingredients generally lead to smoother tasting liquor. At least that's my understanding.


Eh, how true is that really though?

Smirnoff for example, one of the cheapest Vodkas, that are like $22 for a 750ml bottle is "Triple Distilled"... And because of that, I don't think the number of times something has been distilled is a very good indicator.

And as for aged liquor, once again. Aged liquor is a lot more expensive, but most people cannot differentiate the taste of aged liquor and not, not only that, even if it tastes different, I wouldn't say it tastes better, and many would agree.

For younger people especially, the only things that determine what liquor is good is (1) it's cost (lol), and (2) how easy it's to swallow it. There is no real way to judge the quality. It's one of those things where if people buy $500 jeans, they call other jeans that cost a hundred dollars crap when there is no real difference in practical use. In no is a $5000 bottle of wine somehow 500x better than a regular bottle of wine. It's the feeling of being classy, placebo effect, or whatever you want to call it.


You don't know really cheap vodka. Good ole Fürst Uranov 5€/ 0.7l bottle. The stuff you drink when you are 16 and poor.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 22:15:43
June 04 2014 22:11 GMT
#2073
On June 05 2014 07:06 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 05:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2014 22:56 o29 wrote:
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.

A lot of "better" liquors will be aged significantly and may be filtered (often several times). A combination of these two factors along with higher quality ingredients generally lead to smoother tasting liquor. At least that's my understanding.


Eh, how true is that really though?

Smirnoff for example, one of the cheapest Vodkas, that are like $22 for a 750ml bottle is "Triple Distilled"... And because of that, I don't think the number of times something has been distilled is a very good indicator.

And as for aged liquor, once again. Aged liquor is a lot more expensive, but most people cannot differentiate the taste of aged liquor and not, not only that, even if it tastes different, I wouldn't say it tastes better, and many would agree.

For younger people especially, the only things that determine what liquor is good is (1) it's cost (lol), and (2) how easy it's to swallow it. There is no real way to judge the quality. It's one of those things where if people buy $500 jeans, they call other jeans that cost a hundred dollars crap when there is no real difference in practical use. In no is a $5000 bottle of wine somehow 500x better than a regular bottle of wine. It's the feeling of being classy, placebo effect, or whatever you want to call it.


You don't know really cheap vodka. Good ole Fürst Uranov 5€/ 0.7l bottle. The stuff you drink when you are 16 and poor.


Lucky you then. The cheapest Vodka you can buy in a liquor store here in Calgary is $18. (Stars Vodka 40%, comes in plastic bottle, tastes like diluted ethanol).

Pretty normal I guess, since I was born in Slovakia, and alcohol there was extremely cheap compared to here (beer cheaper than pop). Maybe rest of Europe has those lower prices too. I've been to bars in France and Germany, and it is about what it is here though, liquor stores are I guess different.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
June 05 2014 15:34 GMT
#2074
On June 05 2014 05:22 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 22:56 o29 wrote:
On June 04 2014 12:42 iremnant3847 wrote:
What factors determine if a bottle of alcohol is 'good'? My friends will always say this or that is good, but can't give me a reason when I ask why.

A lot of "better" liquors will be aged significantly and may be filtered (often several times). A combination of these two factors along with higher quality ingredients generally lead to smoother tasting liquor. At least that's my understanding.


Eh, how true is that really though?

Smirnoff for example, one of the cheapest Vodkas, that are like $22 for a 750ml bottle is "Triple Distilled"... And because of that, I don't think the number of times something has been distilled is a very good indicator.

And as for aged liquor, once again. Aged liquor is a lot more expensive, but most people cannot differentiate the taste of aged liquor and not, not only that, even if it tastes different, I wouldn't say it tastes better, and many would agree.

For younger people especially, the only things that determine what liquor is good is (1) it's cost (lol), and (2) how easy it's to swallow it. There is no real way to judge the quality. It's one of those things where if people buy $500 jeans, they call other jeans that cost a hundred dollars crap when there is no real difference in practical use. In no is a $5000 bottle of wine somehow 500x better than a regular bottle of wine. It's the feeling of being classy, placebo effect, or whatever you want to call it.


Filtering vodka will improve the taste, although whatever the packaging says cannot necessarily be believed as an indicator of quality. Vodka by definition should be just water and alcohol, so filtering it will get it closer to that state. Yes, something like "triple filtered" is often used as a marketing tactic, but that does not mean that filtering it does not improve the taste. Here's a snopes discussion on it:
http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/58/t/001037.html

Aging whiskey is done in a cask and the aging process is necessary for the signature whiskey taste. Often, the longer it is aged in a barrel, the more of that specific taste that is often perceived as "smoothness" is imparted. Does this mean that a cheap 12 year aged whiskey will be better than an expensive 6 year aged one? Not at all. But saying that it doesn't make any perceptible difference leads me to believe that you haven't had many good whiskeys.

So no, filtration and aging do not necessarily make a bad bottle of whiskey/vodka good, but they will improve the quality. A lot of marketers will use these terms to sell their cheaper liquors as if they were higher quality but that does not invalidate the methods.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 05 2014 16:00 GMT
#2075
What would happen if teamliquid.net became its own virtual country and we were all citizens?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
June 05 2014 16:32 GMT
#2076
On June 06 2014 01:00 3FFA wrote:
What would happen if teamliquid.net became its own virtual country and we were all citizens?


Teamliquid.net would then be recognized as a virtual country. At that point, we would all become citizens.

Rich would be the resident magician.

The end.
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 17:17:51
June 05 2014 17:16 GMT
#2077
I am not an expert on alcohol, but there are at least few factors (btw I dont like drinking vodka, getting drunk etc. I prefer beer):

1) First of all vodka is 40% ethanol, 60% water.
In order to create a 40% alcohol, distillation is needed. So every vodka is distilled. Three times? Five times? In theory it does not matter much, the manufacturer simply needs to make it safe to drink - with no contaminants.
There are different processes though and while the vodka that you buy in your shop is tested and safe, it still might have a bit different chemical composition of the "rest" (much below 0,1%).
For store bought vodkas, the main reason is the difference on the level of chemical known as ethanol hydrate, which varies due to production processes.
A home made moonshine can be contaminated methanol, which can make you go blind or die!
When we mention the contaminants, it is worth noting that they are the reason why "color" alcohol (e.g. whiskey) gives you a bigger hangover than pure spirit - it contains more chemicals, your organism converts them to other chemicals and they might be poisonous for your body.Basically drinking alcohol is poisoning your organism to some degree.. and hangover is often connected with the fact that your organism is oxidizing ethanol to acetaldehyde.

Of course there are also other factors, e.g. your level of electrolytes; amount of stuff in your stomach - it you eat something fat before drinking, you absorb less alcohol.

1b) If you are interested in "real" taste of vodka, you could purchase a bottle of Rectified Spirit (manufactured in Poland, preferably Polmos Lublin) and make a mixture with distilled water. Polish Rectified spirit is distilled up to 96% (and contrary to popular belief is only used to make drinks, not drunk by drunkards - too expensive for them; btw. actually Koreans are the ones who drink the most alcohol in the world). I know that in USA you have a brand of this called "Everclear", but as far as I know it is not as pure - only 95% and I was told it tastes like shit (Im not talking about drinking pure rectified spirit, but version watered down to 40%. Normal people dont drink rectified spirits raw (I expect that some stupid teenagers will write that they drink it by the bottle and that they are fierce mofos.. while in reality they are sad people)).

2) Another VERY important factor is the temperature of the alcohol, hot vodka will simply not "go in".

3) The manufacturers know about ethanol hydrate (and probably few other chemicals) and they often own few brands. They know that the cheaper vodka cannot taste better than the more expensive one, because.. well people would not overpay. But this is not exactly true that "every more expensive alcohol is better", because you often pay for the snobism and marketing, as the difference in taste is minimal. This is very visible on the market of beer, which (with the lager style) is made as bland as possible to fit to as many people as possible and often brand loyalty comes only from your head, since you like the ads.
I guess if your friend would bring a bottle of some expensive vodka you could think that it tastes better, just because you paid more - the difference is simply in your head, as caused by marketing. I read that some bartenders would even buy a bottle of some good Polish vodka, or some Grey Goose and then pour cheap alternative inside - many people would not find much difference, since a lot of it comes from marketing (although admitably Polish and Russian vodkas are best in the world, and both countries claim to be the first to have invented this type of a drink).
A cheap brand can also taste very well, since the manufacturer wants to win market share, earn money.
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Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
June 05 2014 18:27 GMT
#2078
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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 05 2014 18:36 GMT
#2079
Does someone else's SC2 client updated to version 2.1.3 but cannot login due to a version mismatch?
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FlaminGinjaNinja
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom879 Posts
June 05 2014 20:58 GMT
#2080
Can anyone tell me who the guy is at 1:26. He's only there for a second.
I remember he's a Korean Pro Gamer in a gaming house, playing a ladder game and decides to start singing and dancing to Gangnam Style

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