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On June 21 2011 09:18 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 08:57 travis wrote:
This seems like an interesting idea but I would want to be 100% sure it actually kills everyone who rides it. Like adding a shotgun at the end of the ride that fires at point blank range into the head? I would prefer the Cobain method myself. Fast, cheap, effective... In the meantime I have to placate myself with black humor.
If you're gonna do that then you don't even have to finish building the track. Everyone will be unconscious so there's no point in finishing the ride. Just put a guillotine blade at the 2nd loop to lop everyone's heads off 
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Call for my mummy? of corpse I will!
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On June 21 2011 10:08 Rembot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:18 Spazer wrote:On June 21 2011 09:01 Rembot wrote:
This seems like it would be a pretty cost effective method of execution once built. I can see it getting worked into plea deals for horrible crimes. "My client pleads guilty to the charges leveled against him on the grounds that he be executed via the kill coaster." You would see more deathrow inmates pleading guilty that way, at least they could go out in style. Cost effective? This thing is a half kilometer tall, and has to withstand 10 g's of force in most sections of the track. The construction and maintenance costs alone would be ridiculously prohibitive. Oh yeah, this thing would be ridiculously expensive to build and maintain, I'll grant you that. Problem is, nowadays criminals will fight their execution with every appeal they can come up with, bogging down the judicial system and creating exorbitant legal costs. It would be waay cheaper to execute people with this, IF they don't fight it in the courts. It's a big if, but it's also a big coaster
It'd be waay cheaper to use just a regular old axe. No need for any of this fancy constructing business either, so the taxpayers won't have their money wasted. All you need is a chopping block. :V
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On June 21 2011 09:39 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:24 Chargelot wrote:On June 21 2011 07:36 meegrean wrote:
Might be a more humane way to execute criminals? Lethal injection is pretty humane. They feel nothing, I'm pretty sure. Whereas G-LOC and other associated events aren't very pleasant as they are kicking in before death. It'd be closer to drowning every criminal on death row than it would be a peaceful death, at least relative to the injection. If a lethal injection is done wrong, which it is more than 60% (from what i heard in a documentary) it can cause the victim an incredible amount of pain, and since one of the chemicals they use in the injection is a paralyzing agent, they have no way of letting their pain out via scream. Hypoxia is humane and can almost be euphoric in some situations.
Not that I want to challenge the great world of documentary films, but.. how would they know if it was done in such a way that the inmate felt pain if he's now dead? Is it blatantly obvious, like the needle never even touched a vain? Or is it closer to "we think he may have felt pain, because of x and y, but really we'll never know"?
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On June 21 2011 10:50 Match wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 10:08 Rembot wrote:On June 21 2011 09:18 Spazer wrote:On June 21 2011 09:01 Rembot wrote:
This seems like it would be a pretty cost effective method of execution once built. I can see it getting worked into plea deals for horrible crimes. "My client pleads guilty to the charges leveled against him on the grounds that he be executed via the kill coaster." You would see more deathrow inmates pleading guilty that way, at least they could go out in style. Cost effective? This thing is a half kilometer tall, and has to withstand 10 g's of force in most sections of the track. The construction and maintenance costs alone would be ridiculously prohibitive. Oh yeah, this thing would be ridiculously expensive to build and maintain, I'll grant you that. Problem is, nowadays criminals will fight their execution with every appeal they can come up with, bogging down the judicial system and creating exorbitant legal costs. It would be waay cheaper to execute people with this, IF they don't fight it in the courts. It's a big if, but it's also a big coaster It'd be waay cheaper to use just a regular old axe. No need for any of this fancy constructing business either, so the taxpayers won't have their money wasted. All you need is a chopping block. :V
Who wants to get beheaded by a plain old axe? If it was made of solid gold, then melted down and poured down my neck stump, then I MIGHT be interested. Of course, then the cost starts to get out of hand again...
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On June 21 2011 11:11 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:39 Corrosive wrote:On June 21 2011 09:24 Chargelot wrote:On June 21 2011 07:36 meegrean wrote:
Might be a more humane way to execute criminals? Lethal injection is pretty humane. They feel nothing, I'm pretty sure. Whereas G-LOC and other associated events aren't very pleasant as they are kicking in before death. It'd be closer to drowning every criminal on death row than it would be a peaceful death, at least relative to the injection. If a lethal injection is done wrong, which it is more than 60% (from what i heard in a documentary) it can cause the victim an incredible amount of pain, and since one of the chemicals they use in the injection is a paralyzing agent, they have no way of letting their pain out via scream. Hypoxia is humane and can almost be euphoric in some situations. Not that I want to challenge the great world of documentary films, but.. how would they know if it was done in such a way that the inmate felt pain if he's now dead? Is it blatantly obvious, like the needle never even touched a vain? Or is it closer to "we think he may have felt pain, because of x and y, but really we'll never know"?
You can measure changes in blood chemistry to know that they were conscious and felt pain..... A study took blood samples of the inmates after execution and it showed that many of them weren't under proper anesthesia during the execution, even though they showed no visible signs of pain. And that was because they were paralyzed by a chemical injected into them before the chemical to stop their heart.....
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Wow fascinating. I always supported euthanasia (just my opinion, let's not turn this into a debate/flamefest), so this seems pretty cool.
If I really really wanted to die before old-age or something else takes me for whatever reason, I'd probably want it to be fun and exciting. Love roller coasters, so this seems like the thing for me.
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The guy in the video, the last like few things he says freak me the fuck out
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On June 21 2011 08:55 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 08:26 Qeet wrote:On June 21 2011 07:42 BlackJack wrote:
Death from lack of oxygen to the brain but the ride only lasts for 3 minutes? That doesn't add up you can surive 3minutes without breathing because theres still enough oxygen in your blood but at these g forces the blood is will never reach your brain the brain can't last a few seconds without oxygen How does blood reach the brain during cardiac arrest? Does a person under 10g's of force have worse circulation than someone without a beating heart?
i guess the difference is that during a cardiac arrest there isn't a force pushing all of your brains blood down your feet?
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On June 21 2011 08:24 NeonSky wrote:
When reading this I immediately thought of all the coasters I made in the game Roller Coaster Tycoon that flew right off the track, but this guy is really taking the idea to new heights.
Quite literally, you only were let to take a roller coaster to about 300 feet into the sky in the game 
On topic, I think it would be a very painful death, i wouldn't like it. I'd rather jump off an airplane, but i like this world too much ^^
Overall, i don't think it's a bad idea, but i'd rather have it be used for death penalty than for assisted suicide, since guilty convicts would get a peculiar punishment. It would be fun in my wicked fantasy where the craziest ideas are the most common.
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pretty darn expensive as a method of death... overdosing is so much cheaper...although the euphoria might be too good to have it stop
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A main point that seems to be missed is that this is seemingly an attempt to change opinion of euthanasia. The idea that this could be considered in that realm is inherently somewhat counterintuitive. Euthanasia( at least in traditional cases in the US) happens when people are in a condition of inhumane suffering that will not improve and most likely will become worse. This honestly is somewhat a mockery of the idea. Many of you I am sure have seen either "Kevorkian" or "You don't know Jack". This is a man who stood up for the belief so strong that he purposefully put himself in the public eye for the issue, to a fault I would say since he felt he needed to go to jail.
To execute people as many posts state this could be practical, ignoring the somewhat ridiculous nature of the idea itself, but euthanasia is a misappropriated classification for such an invention/idea.
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On June 21 2011 07:29 TadH wrote:How very profound and insightful. Obviously it will never be built. But the fact that someone took the time/effort/money to simply come up with and design this, says something of our society.
No. It only says something about this individual who does his utmost to create attention for himself by using "bad words" like euthanasia to "advertise" his project. Yet another idiot on an attention grabbing scheme. Its never going to be constructed, its never going to work and a gun to your head (or a few bottles of wine drunk fast enough, or drinking lots of water without going to the toilet, or ...) is much cheaper. The attention he gets here is not a good thing.
Wisdom is the skill to know when NOT to do a thing and it is severely lacking in our societies. This is the case for the guy who planned it and the OP for spreading it.
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i wanna ride this, like seriously it looks like the greatest thing ever
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First of all, looking at the degrees and angles of the coaster, it seems highly impossible that a cart (what you sit on a coaster) can survive the extreme turns without even flipping off the track.
Basically if you do some math, the coaster that he listed in the diagram is impossible to build din the first place.
Even if he can build it, there will be a low weight limit on the ride. You can't possible survive the uphill on that speed he listed, with those angles, if you are probably more than one hundred and... seventy? pounds.
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Well that would be a pretty sad place to work.
I do not know what to think about this. It is just such a strange idea that i do no know how i should feel about it.
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On June 21 2011 07:36 TadH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 07:35 Megaliskuu wrote:
Is it weird that the first thing I thougth when I saw the video is that the guy looked like a younger White_ra? DUDE I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY THAT lmao, FIRST thing that popped into my head no lies.
Maybe it's white-ra's bro who will put you on it if you don't say GG to him : P
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You guys seem to be missing the point. The artist knew it would never be built, and this isn't an 'engineering project' so much as a piece of art, or possibly a collision of the two. A piece of art is meant to be thought provoking. Is Euthanization totally wrong? Would it be 'fun' to ride an extremely long roller coaster that gradually (or rapidly) gets more intense and (probably peacefully) black out before dying of oxygen loss?
The real issue here isn't the method, though, it's our society's acceptance or rejection of the individual's option to pursue euthanasia. Only, in our world, society's tracks don't lead to graceful deaths with dignity and excitement, they lead to the gradual drops of the individual heart and soul and rapidly rising costs in time and money to manage non-functional peoples' lives. At least, that's how I perceive the artist's message.
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Ironic how the person who said it will never be built has a username Voltaire...
anyways interesting way to die, but i don't really see old people using this as a method, it's easier to go to the swiss and die in a nice spa.
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On June 21 2011 11:11 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:39 Corrosive wrote:On June 21 2011 09:24 Chargelot wrote:On June 21 2011 07:36 meegrean wrote:
Might be a more humane way to execute criminals? Lethal injection is pretty humane. They feel nothing, I'm pretty sure. Whereas G-LOC and other associated events aren't very pleasant as they are kicking in before death. It'd be closer to drowning every criminal on death row than it would be a peaceful death, at least relative to the injection. If a lethal injection is done wrong, which it is more than 60% (from what i heard in a documentary) it can cause the victim an incredible amount of pain, and since one of the chemicals they use in the injection is a paralyzing agent, they have no way of letting their pain out via scream. Hypoxia is humane and can almost be euphoric in some situations. Not that I want to challenge the great world of documentary films, but.. how would they know if it was done in such a way that the inmate felt pain if he's now dead? Is it blatantly obvious, like the needle never even touched a vain? Or is it closer to "we think he may have felt pain, because of x and y, but really we'll never know"?
There's also studies done where a criminal agreed to do a prearranged signal if he was feeling pain.
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