• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:21
CEST 20:21
KST 03:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues25LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers?
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams alas... i aint gon' lie to u bruh...
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN CPL12 SIGN UP are open!!!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1469 users

The Letting Off Steam Thread - Page 149

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 147 148 149 150 151 256 Next
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44561 Posts
May 08 2014 14:10 GMT
#2961
On May 08 2014 23:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 20:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 07 2014 14:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
It kind of grinds my gears when people complain about having a difficult semester to me. I have 7 classes (the average class load here is 4), including stuff like Cancer Biology and Corporate Finance. They then have the gall to point out "oh I do extra-curriculars" as if that's not part of my life. Unless you're studying for the MCAT or something, your semester was not nearly as stressful as mine so please stop complaining. You're like a fat guy complaining his hamburger is out of reach and I'm a guy who can't afford a hamburger.


+ Show Spoiler +
Surely there's a difference between them stressing out over their semester that is very busy and overwhelming *for them*, and them trying to belittle your life by saying you wouldn't understand their workload, right? Are they saying their life is hard *and yours isn't*, or just that they're doing far more than usual *for them*, so they're stressed?


+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is by any measure his semester has been easy. He's taking 4 classes, and I'm in one of them with him and it's an absolute joke, with the exception of the final group paper which he kind of bailed on citing "relationship problems". Like, I'm cool with (or rather used to) picking up a little slack, but trying to justify it with a busy semester is bullshit. I know perfectly well you've had one final compared to my six, and of your two group projects I know you didn't do shit. His other classes are some class on poetry and one of the more wishy-washy business school electives. I'm definitely capable of handing a lot more than he is, but he has a light load compared to even an average student.


+ Show Spoiler +
Okay then I definitely think people would get a lot more done if they spent less time complaining and more time performing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 08 2014 14:26 GMT
#2962
+ Show Spoiler +
I hate when people compare their problems to other people's problems and go "You have no right to talk cuz I had it harder than you." and then list off all their hardships. I just want to tell those people to shut the fuck up before I slap them with my hand so hard that it leaves a permanent imprint.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44561 Posts
May 08 2014 14:52 GMT
#2963
On May 08 2014 23:26 ninazerg wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I hate when people compare their problems to other people's problems and go "You have no right to talk cuz I had it harder than you." and then list off all their hardships. I just want to tell those people to shut the fuck up before I slap them with my hand so hard that it leaves a permanent imprint.


+ Show Spoiler +
I see what you did there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 09 2014 01:59 GMT
#2964
+ Show Spoiler +
people don't fucking know how to read
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 09 2014 03:11 GMT
#2965
+ Show Spoiler +
Tomorrow, I am leaving home to college because I cannot afford laundry ($4.50 per load) but I ran out of underwear. Fuck my life.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 09 2014 04:06 GMT
#2966
+ Show Spoiler +

Fuck you AT&T I mean god damn, if the DSL comes in the mail allow us to register over the phone using an automated system. Instead of your shitty registration page which doesn't even fucking work.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 09 2014 20:49 GMT
#2967
On May 08 2014 23:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 23:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
On May 08 2014 20:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 07 2014 14:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
It kind of grinds my gears when people complain about having a difficult semester to me. I have 7 classes (the average class load here is 4), including stuff like Cancer Biology and Corporate Finance. They then have the gall to point out "oh I do extra-curriculars" as if that's not part of my life. Unless you're studying for the MCAT or something, your semester was not nearly as stressful as mine so please stop complaining. You're like a fat guy complaining his hamburger is out of reach and I'm a guy who can't afford a hamburger.


+ Show Spoiler +
Surely there's a difference between them stressing out over their semester that is very busy and overwhelming *for them*, and them trying to belittle your life by saying you wouldn't understand their workload, right? Are they saying their life is hard *and yours isn't*, or just that they're doing far more than usual *for them*, so they're stressed?


+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is by any measure his semester has been easy. He's taking 4 classes, and I'm in one of them with him and it's an absolute joke, with the exception of the final group paper which he kind of bailed on citing "relationship problems". Like, I'm cool with (or rather used to) picking up a little slack, but trying to justify it with a busy semester is bullshit. I know perfectly well you've had one final compared to my six, and of your two group projects I know you didn't do shit. His other classes are some class on poetry and one of the more wishy-washy business school electives. I'm definitely capable of handing a lot more than he is, but he has a light load compared to even an average student.


+ Show Spoiler +
Okay then I definitely think people would get a lot more done if they spent less time complaining and more time performing.


+ Show Spoiler +
If that's directed at me, well, I actually only complain very rarely. Like,I get a little whiny and pissy at myself, then I tell myself to stop doing that and figure out a solution.

Though I had the worst experience moving out ever the last 72 hours. I got my apartment lease a couple days ago, they told us the next day to get the key when they changed the lock (previous owner had some problems). Then they tell us we have to call Georgia Power to turn on the power before we can get the key. Okay, cool-- I call Georgia Power, give them a bunch of info like SSN, mother's maiden name, some other stuff, then they tell us that's not enough and we have to come in. However, talking to them has taken two hours, it's almost 5 and they close. Like, why do we have to go in person?

So that night I have all my stuff in a uhaul. I end up stashing it in one of my university's parking deck and crashing in my old freshman dorm in an empty room (I have a lot of RA friends). That's chill, but I miss the Chainsmokers concert that I really wanted to go to as a result

So next morning, we go bright and early to Georgia Power. Turns out the office location we were told to go to had moved a week ago. Finally, we go to the next location. We wait for an hour in line, then get to the lady there and she tells us I need my social security card in addition to driver's license and a phone bill, so we can't turn on power.

At that point, I just dump all my stuff at my friend's brother's apartment. He's really nice about it. I finally return the uhaul, but I've spent over $100 because of the mileage on it.

Aaaaand finally I get to the megabus station with my friend. We wait for an hour for it to show up, then I find out they fucked up my reservation so I'm actually on a bus that leaves 6 hours later. I ask if I can get on if there's extra space, and the lady says there isn't. 10 minutes after the bus leaves, I get a snapchat of a half empty bus. Really?
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 10 2014 19:17 GMT
#2968
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a really bad pet peeve.

I was watching the Starbow cast on basetradetv and the chat nearly made me rage. Nearly. The game is very brood war-ish, so I actually had a really good idea of who was doing well, and who wasn't. It doesn't matter if all the SC2 nerds had no idea what the hell was happening, as long as they were having fun. And I think they were - there was like 2k viewers when I checked it last. I actually didn't mind the people going "What is this?" and asking "What is that unit?" and "How does that work?"... no, the thing that really fucking pissed me off wasn't the excessive use of Kappas, or people yelling about how "op" everything is (and by the way, how can EVERYTHING be overpowered? Or maybe it's an unfunny 'ironic' nerd joke) but when it came to chatters talking about strategy. I saw a zerg player "TheRedBandit" open with two base, three hatch, which I didn't find to be odd in the slightest. It was against a protoss, so I figured it was either some kind of hydra or muta bust, but then he used his fourth hatch to take an expansion. I mentioned it in the chat, and someone said that the timings for protoss don't allow for double-expanding. But it worked out. Kind of. RedBandit just got speed first and double-expo'd in game 2, and was able to easily fend off any zealot harass, and the timings looked exactly identical to Brood War, and in fact, RedBandit had lurkers in time for a +1 4gate speedlot timing, which you can't do in Brood War.

Long story short: I was right and you can double expo in starbow against protoss. The more I watched, the more broodwaresque I realized the mod is. Even the army sizes and engagements were easy for me to predict based on what I saw in Brood War.

So then, this one guy joins the chat, and he's like spouting all kinds of facts about Brood War like he knows shit, but he doesn't know shit, so he started just saying ridiculous shit like "Lurker openings don't work versus Terran" and that Savior never did mutalisk openings and that people only started doing mutalisks when Jaedong was playing. Uh, dude, ever heard of fuckin' JulyZerg? You know, the one who popularized muta openings, and gave me my StarCraft name? And so he was like "This lurker build isn't working, he should go mutas" and I tried to point out that it was a ridiculous mismatch, because Bogus played TvZ as a pro in Brood War, so of course some random Starbow noob is going to get his shit kicked in w/ ease. Not that Franscar is a "noob", but Bogus made the games look easy.

And of course, people didn't understand the faraway third base and kept thinking it was a hidden base.

So, in summary: SC2 fans are disgusting morons in the twitch chats, but Brood War snobs in Starbow chats are probably just as bad. Especially when they get all snobby about Brood War like "It's so much better than SC2", and talk about Brood War strategy and shit, and THEN DON'T EVEN PLAY THE FUCKING GAME OR EVEN HAVE IT INSTALLED ON THEIR COMPUTERS, WHY NOT JUST COMMENTATE ON BRAIN SURGERY AND GIVE THE DOCTORS SOME ADVICE ON HOW TO DO SOME NEURAL GRAFTING OR WHATEVER.

But, that being said, I love everyone, but I had to get that off my chest.

"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 21:48:02
May 13 2014 21:47 GMT
#2969
+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK THIS GAME
been master for 3 fucking years now, studying replays everything playing a lot, no i can't fucking make gm, still masters forever, what the fuck can i even do, fuck zergs with their fucking muta corruptor and fuck pvp fuck this shit
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 13 2014 22:06 GMT
#2970
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello casters for sc2 or BW or whatever game you talk about and pretend to understand. Will you stop using renditions of the following phrase:
"And with this move Player X is saying to Player Y ''ok you can do this [insert tactical move] to me but I will go and kick your ass by doing this [insert tactical move] to you.'"

Your attempts to add a persona to a player based on his/her decision making in the game only works to highlight your ignorance about what is standard/nonstandard in the matchup. If I was a high level player I would abhor having individuals with minor understanding of the game apply narratives to my strategy in an attempt to romanticize the game in such a naive and tryhard way. There is nothing wrong with being a noob. There is nothing wrong with being a noob who talks about things that they know nothing about so long as they are self aware of this fact. What is most annoying though is noobs who not only deny that they know nothing about the games they are talking about (so that they can continue to justify talking) but who also must put words (and sentiments) into the mouths of others who actually are rolling about in the mud, figuring out the underlying strategies within a game. I don't know who started this particular trend of speaking for esports athletes but it spread rapidly in commentaries recently and has gotten completely overused very fast. I cannot watch 3 commentated videos in a row without this technique being done in at least one of them.

Fuck you on so many different levels, off yourself please.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
HighdraL1sk
Profile Joined April 2012
United States140 Posts
May 13 2014 22:17 GMT
#2971
+ Show Spoiler +
i just want Team Liquid to remain one site! I Loved it and am now fearing change!!!!!!!!
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 00:22:05
May 13 2014 22:19 GMT
#2972
On May 11 2014 04:17 ninazerg wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a really bad pet peeve.

I was watching the Starbow cast on basetradetv and the chat nearly made me rage. Nearly. The game is very brood war-ish, so I actually had a really good idea of who was doing well, and who wasn't. It doesn't matter if all the SC2 nerds had no idea what the hell was happening, as long as they were having fun. And I think they were - there was like 2k viewers when I checked it last. I actually didn't mind the people going "What is this?" and asking "What is that unit?" and "How does that work?"... no, the thing that really fucking pissed me off wasn't the excessive use of Kappas, or people yelling about how "op" everything is (and by the way, how can EVERYTHING be overpowered? Or maybe it's an unfunny 'ironic' nerd joke) but when it came to chatters talking about strategy. I saw a zerg player "TheRedBandit" open with two base, three hatch, which I didn't find to be odd in the slightest. It was against a protoss, so I figured it was either some kind of hydra or muta bust, but then he used his fourth hatch to take an expansion. I mentioned it in the chat, and someone said that the timings for protoss don't allow for double-expanding. But it worked out. Kind of. RedBandit just got speed first and double-expo'd in game 2, and was able to easily fend off any zealot harass, and the timings looked exactly identical to Brood War, and in fact, RedBandit had lurkers in time for a +1 4gate speedlot timing, which you can't do in Brood War.

Long story short: I was right and you can double expo in starbow against protoss. The more I watched, the more broodwaresque I realized the mod is. Even the army sizes and engagements were easy for me to predict based on what I saw in Brood War.

So then, this one guy joins the chat, and he's like spouting all kinds of facts about Brood War like he knows shit, but he doesn't know shit, so he started just saying ridiculous shit like "Lurker openings don't work versus Terran" and that Savior never did mutalisk openings and that people only started doing mutalisks when Jaedong was playing. Uh, dude, ever heard of fuckin' JulyZerg? You know, the one who popularized muta openings, and gave me my StarCraft name? And so he was like "This lurker build isn't working, he should go mutas" and I tried to point out that it was a ridiculous mismatch, because Bogus played TvZ as a pro in Brood War, so of course some random Starbow noob is going to get his shit kicked in w/ ease. Not that Franscar is a "noob", but Bogus made the games look easy.

And of course, people didn't understand the faraway third base and kept thinking it was a hidden base.

So, in summary: SC2 fans are disgusting morons in the twitch chats, but Brood War snobs in Starbow chats are probably just as bad. Especially when they get all snobby about Brood War like "It's so much better than SC2", and talk about Brood War strategy and shit, and THEN DON'T EVEN PLAY THE FUCKING GAME OR EVEN HAVE IT INSTALLED ON THEIR COMPUTERS, WHY NOT JUST COMMENTATE ON BRAIN SURGERY AND GIVE THE DOCTORS SOME ADVICE ON HOW TO DO SOME NEURAL GRAFTING OR WHATEVER.

But, that being said, I love everyone, but I had to get that off my chest.



+ Show Spoiler +
You know what I have noticed talking to low masters or lower sc2 players/low level BW players versus High Masters or higher sc2 players/ D+ or higher BW players?

The former of the two groups thinks random thoughts about the games are true because they remotely make sense in their head. The same head that thinks unit compositions are a build order. The latter of the two player types is very open to what they don't know about the games, and doesn't tend to claim anything too intensely. On some level it pisses me off because I have to deal with them spreading their nonsense around the forums where they see themselves as "totally strategically superior to pro players but with slow fingers". On the other hand I don't care what they say because I get to spawn terran shits on top of their heads when their retched ilk exasperatedly tries to ladder up their ranking like it's a sacred daily ritual bestown onto them by a cult leader whom they fanatically follow.

Eat my poop noobs.

Eat it.

mmmm...


Pooop.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 13 2014 22:52 GMT
#2973
+ Show Spoiler +
why the hell can't I focus on this speech that I have to give tomorrow
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 14 2014 02:09 GMT
#2974
On May 14 2014 07:06 puppykiller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello casters for sc2 or BW or whatever game you talk about and pretend to understand. Will you stop using renditions of the following phrase:
"And with this move Player X is saying to Player Y ''ok you can do this [insert tactical move] to me but I will go and kick your ass by doing this [insert tactical move] to you.'"

Your attempts to add a persona to a player based on his/her decision making in the game only works to highlight your ignorance about what is standard/nonstandard in the matchup. If I was a high level player I would abhor having individuals with minor understanding of the game apply narratives to my strategy in an attempt to romanticize the game in such a naive and tryhard way. There is nothing wrong with being a noob. There is nothing wrong with being a noob who talks about things that they know nothing about so long as they are self aware of this fact. What is most annoying though is noobs who not only deny that they know nothing about the games they are talking about (so that they can continue to justify talking) but who also must put words (and sentiments) into the mouths of others who actually are rolling about in the mud, figuring out the underlying strategies within a game. I don't know who started this particular trend of speaking for esports athletes but it spread rapidly in commentaries recently and has gotten completely overused very fast. I cannot watch 3 commentated videos in a row without this technique being done in at least one of them.

Fuck you on so many different levels, off yourself please.


+ Show Spoiler +
The main purpose of commentary is to explain viewers who need help understanding what's going on, what's going on in the game. If you feel like you can discern the game simply from the production tab and need no more than that, feel free to hit the mute button. Otherwise, sit through it and try to appreciate that someone who knows nothing about this game is being either slightly more informed or slightly more entertained with the uttering of that sentence.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 17:20:53
May 14 2014 14:31 GMT
#2975
On May 14 2014 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 07:06 puppykiller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello casters for sc2 or BW or whatever game you talk about and pretend to understand. Will you stop using renditions of the following phrase:
"And with this move Player X is saying to Player Y ''ok you can do this [insert tactical move] to me but I will go and kick your ass by doing this [insert tactical move] to you.'"

Your attempts to add a persona to a player based on his/her decision making in the game only works to highlight your ignorance about what is standard/nonstandard in the matchup. If I was a high level player I would abhor having individuals with minor understanding of the game apply narratives to my strategy in an attempt to romanticize the game in such a naive and tryhard way. There is nothing wrong with being a noob. There is nothing wrong with being a noob who talks about things that they know nothing about so long as they are self aware of this fact. What is most annoying though is noobs who not only deny that they know nothing about the games they are talking about (so that they can continue to justify talking) but who also must put words (and sentiments) into the mouths of others who actually are rolling about in the mud, figuring out the underlying strategies within a game. I don't know who started this particular trend of speaking for esports athletes but it spread rapidly in commentaries recently and has gotten completely overused very fast. I cannot watch 3 commentated videos in a row without this technique being done in at least one of them.

Fuck you on so many different levels, off yourself please.


+ Show Spoiler +
The main purpose of commentary is to explain viewers who need help understanding what's going on, what's going on in the game. If you feel like you can discern the game simply from the production tab and need no more than that, feel free to hit the mute button. Otherwise, sit through it and try to appreciate that someone who knows nothing about this game is being either slightly more informed or slightly more entertained with the uttering of that sentence.


+ Show Spoiler +
Another thing that has always bothered me in commentaries is the overuse of the passive voice. The zerg player DOES SEE the drop coming. The terran DOES KNOW that he is behind now. And they always put so much emphasis on the passive verb too. Sigh.

Edited to add: Apparently I'm an idiot and these are just auxillary constructs used for emphasis. They would only be in the passive voice if the main verb were in the past participle tense whereas in my examples they are in the present tense. Sorry for the confusion if anyone read this before the edit, and I'm officially revoking my own license as a grammar nazi.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 14 2014 14:55 GMT
#2976
On May 14 2014 23:31 o29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On May 14 2014 07:06 puppykiller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello casters for sc2 or BW or whatever game you talk about and pretend to understand. Will you stop using renditions of the following phrase:
"And with this move Player X is saying to Player Y ''ok you can do this [insert tactical move] to me but I will go and kick your ass by doing this [insert tactical move] to you.'"

Your attempts to add a persona to a player based on his/her decision making in the game only works to highlight your ignorance about what is standard/nonstandard in the matchup. If I was a high level player I would abhor having individuals with minor understanding of the game apply narratives to my strategy in an attempt to romanticize the game in such a naive and tryhard way. There is nothing wrong with being a noob. There is nothing wrong with being a noob who talks about things that they know nothing about so long as they are self aware of this fact. What is most annoying though is noobs who not only deny that they know nothing about the games they are talking about (so that they can continue to justify talking) but who also must put words (and sentiments) into the mouths of others who actually are rolling about in the mud, figuring out the underlying strategies within a game. I don't know who started this particular trend of speaking for esports athletes but it spread rapidly in commentaries recently and has gotten completely overused very fast. I cannot watch 3 commentated videos in a row without this technique being done in at least one of them.

Fuck you on so many different levels, off yourself please.


+ Show Spoiler +
The main purpose of commentary is to explain viewers who need help understanding what's going on, what's going on in the game. If you feel like you can discern the game simply from the production tab and need no more than that, feel free to hit the mute button. Otherwise, sit through it and try to appreciate that someone who knows nothing about this game is being either slightly more informed or slightly more entertained with the uttering of that sentence.


+ Show Spoiler +

Another thing that has always bothered me in commentaries is the overuse of the passive voice. The zerg player DOES SEE the drop coming. The terran DOES KNOW that he is behind now. And they always put so much emphasis on the passive verb too. Sigh.


+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, that's just ridiculous. If people placing the emphasis on passive verbs is too much for you, I don't know what to tell you.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 15:57:33
May 14 2014 15:54 GMT
#2977
On May 14 2014 23:55 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 23:31 o29 wrote:
On May 14 2014 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On May 14 2014 07:06 puppykiller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello casters for sc2 or BW or whatever game you talk about and pretend to understand. Will you stop using renditions of the following phrase:
"And with this move Player X is saying to Player Y ''ok you can do this [insert tactical move] to me but I will go and kick your ass by doing this [insert tactical move] to you.'"

Your attempts to add a persona to a player based on his/her decision making in the game only works to highlight your ignorance about what is standard/nonstandard in the matchup. If I was a high level player I would abhor having individuals with minor understanding of the game apply narratives to my strategy in an attempt to romanticize the game in such a naive and tryhard way. There is nothing wrong with being a noob. There is nothing wrong with being a noob who talks about things that they know nothing about so long as they are self aware of this fact. What is most annoying though is noobs who not only deny that they know nothing about the games they are talking about (so that they can continue to justify talking) but who also must put words (and sentiments) into the mouths of others who actually are rolling about in the mud, figuring out the underlying strategies within a game. I don't know who started this particular trend of speaking for esports athletes but it spread rapidly in commentaries recently and has gotten completely overused very fast. I cannot watch 3 commentated videos in a row without this technique being done in at least one of them.

Fuck you on so many different levels, off yourself please.


+ Show Spoiler +
The main purpose of commentary is to explain viewers who need help understanding what's going on, what's going on in the game. If you feel like you can discern the game simply from the production tab and need no more than that, feel free to hit the mute button. Otherwise, sit through it and try to appreciate that someone who knows nothing about this game is being either slightly more informed or slightly more entertained with the uttering of that sentence.


+ Show Spoiler +

Another thing that has always bothered me in commentaries is the overuse of the passive voice. The zerg player DOES SEE the drop coming. The terran DOES KNOW that he is behind now. And they always put so much emphasis on the passive verb too. Sigh.


+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, that's just ridiculous. If people placing the emphasis on passive verbs is too much for you, I don't know what to tell you.


+ Show Spoiler +
It's not the emphasizing itself -- I get that. The reason why they're using passive over active is presumably to be emphatic. But why does everything need to be emphasized? It seems like it's to hype the match up, but I don't think every single move needs to be SUPER IMPORTANT, and for grammar nazis such as myself, it just distracts from the actual commentary. I'm sure many people don't even notice this though.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
May 14 2014 16:10 GMT
#2978
On May 15 2014 00:54 o29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 23:55 ninazerg wrote:
On May 14 2014 23:31 o29 wrote:
On May 14 2014 11:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On May 14 2014 07:06 puppykiller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Hello casters for sc2 or BW or whatever game you talk about and pretend to understand. Will you stop using renditions of the following phrase:
"And with this move Player X is saying to Player Y ''ok you can do this [insert tactical move] to me but I will go and kick your ass by doing this [insert tactical move] to you.'"

Your attempts to add a persona to a player based on his/her decision making in the game only works to highlight your ignorance about what is standard/nonstandard in the matchup. If I was a high level player I would abhor having individuals with minor understanding of the game apply narratives to my strategy in an attempt to romanticize the game in such a naive and tryhard way. There is nothing wrong with being a noob. There is nothing wrong with being a noob who talks about things that they know nothing about so long as they are self aware of this fact. What is most annoying though is noobs who not only deny that they know nothing about the games they are talking about (so that they can continue to justify talking) but who also must put words (and sentiments) into the mouths of others who actually are rolling about in the mud, figuring out the underlying strategies within a game. I don't know who started this particular trend of speaking for esports athletes but it spread rapidly in commentaries recently and has gotten completely overused very fast. I cannot watch 3 commentated videos in a row without this technique being done in at least one of them.

Fuck you on so many different levels, off yourself please.


+ Show Spoiler +
The main purpose of commentary is to explain viewers who need help understanding what's going on, what's going on in the game. If you feel like you can discern the game simply from the production tab and need no more than that, feel free to hit the mute button. Otherwise, sit through it and try to appreciate that someone who knows nothing about this game is being either slightly more informed or slightly more entertained with the uttering of that sentence.


+ Show Spoiler +

Another thing that has always bothered me in commentaries is the overuse of the passive voice. The zerg player DOES SEE the drop coming. The terran DOES KNOW that he is behind now. And they always put so much emphasis on the passive verb too. Sigh.


+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, that's just ridiculous. If people placing the emphasis on passive verbs is too much for you, I don't know what to tell you.


+ Show Spoiler +
It's not the emphasizing itself -- I get that. The reason why they're using passive over active is presumably to be emphatic. But why does everything need to be emphasized? It seems like it's to hype the match up, but I don't think every single move needs to be SUPER IMPORTANT, and for grammar nazis such as myself, it just distracts from the actual commentary. I'm sure many people don't even notice this though.


+ Show Spoiler +

lol, reminds me of this:


"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 16:16:27
May 14 2014 16:15 GMT
#2979
On May 11 2014 04:17 ninazerg wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
So then, this one guy joins the chat, and he's like spouting all kinds of facts about Brood War like he knows shit, but he doesn't know shit, so he started just saying ridiculous shit like "Lurker openings don't work versus Terran" and that Savior never did mutalisk openings and that people only started doing mutalisks when Jaedong was playing. Uh, dude, ever heard of fuckin' JulyZerg? You know, the one who popularized muta openings, and gave me my StarCraft name?


+ Show Spoiler +

Muta openings were popular long before July. Shit, they were nearly a necessity back in the LT days to prevent dirty terran scum from cliffing you.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't give a shit what Junwi did or what ZergBoy did in that one replay, drop openings were silly.

That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25613 Posts
May 14 2014 17:16 GMT
#2980
+ Show Spoiler +
Fucking idiots who post nonsense on subjects like religion or science as if they know anything and lambast others for the very short-sightedness they decry. In fact any moron who doesn't know the limits of their knowledge and spouts shit that adds nothing to any discussion they partake in. Fuck you all.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Prev 1 147 148 149 150 151 256 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
[BSL 2025] Weekly
18:00
#14
ZZZero.O24
LiquipediaDiscussion
Maestros of the Game
14:00
Playoffs - Round of 12
Classic vs ClemLIVE!
Serral vs Reynor
ComeBackTV 1983
RotterdaM986
PiGStarcraft493
WardiTV427
IndyStarCraft 340
SteadfastSC254
BRAT_OK 176
Rex142
CranKy Ducklings133
EnkiAlexander 84
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 986
PiGStarcraft493
IndyStarCraft 340
SteadfastSC 254
BRAT_OK 176
Rex 142
Codebar 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22626
Sea 1996
sSak 285
firebathero 273
sas.Sziky 42
Movie 41
Rock 39
ZZZero.O 24
yabsab 14
Shine 11
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 1
Dota 2
The International158575
Gorgc16232
Dendi709
PGG 45
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps991
Foxcn433
Stewie2K21
Other Games
FrodaN1279
Grubby1212
Beastyqt591
B2W.Neo461
Hui .196
KnowMe180
ArmadaUGS91
mouzStarbuck68
SortOf55
rGuardiaN26
MindelVK18
SC2_NightMare2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1705
EGCTV644
BasetradeTV26
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 40
• OhrlRock 1
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach14
• Michael_bg 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1246
• Ler93
League of Legends
• Nemesis1981
• Jankos1535
Other Games
• Shiphtur272
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
15h 39m
Maestros of the Game
22h 39m
BSL Team Wars
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.