On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
Yes, brilliant idea.
Instead of protecting our young from those who are stronger by virtue of age alone, we should leave them to their suffering.
Jesus.
Oh no! The poor boy was ambushed and viciously attacked! Did you see the same video as me. He was crying like a baby. This didn't happen out of random chance the boy is pathetic. Its okay admitting your faults is the first step to recovering from them. You cannot change human nature, I am sure you have mocking somebody for being stupid before and that is no difference in bullying. In the game of life, survival and evolution are the goals. It happens everyday, the bigger pups will bully the run to death. Why should the other puppies give up food to a weakling? You have lived a comfortable life so i wouldn't expect you to understand. In any case, all animals, including humans, are bound to their emotions. Those girls felt the urge to pick on him and delight in carrying out the act. Do these girls deserve hellfire like the other poster here suggested. Maybe if your a Christian, but lets not get into that.
Are you stupid? Or does your petty little mind not comprehend the valid argument that others have said? Hopefully you just thought that this boy was the same age as the girls. Otherwise, you might be the most ignorant poster in all of TL. You sure talk big for an internet poster. Maybe you have been troubled during your life.
This kid get's jumped and tackled by 3 older, stronger people and he get's called a pussy, just because their girls. What the hell is he suppose to do? Now if the video was him fighting his way out of it and hurting 1 one of these girls, he would be the one getting in shit for this. God bless Amurca
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Wow you are a fucking retard.
ONE 11 year old vs THREE 14 year old girls.
Dont trivialize this shit just because the genders were reversed.
Haha i love this, it really shows who we are as a people! Imagine instead were three boys and one girl-rape or something Or imagine instead it were three white kids and a black kid- hate crime Or imagine instead it were three black kids and a white kid- something about black people and crime But haha three white chicks and a dude- it's all good just a prank!
Not really saying anything is good/bad just funny how differently each subgroup of people is treated. Edit: lol all of these scenarios would be bad
also, fyi: the 4chan /b/ "if the genders were reversed..." logic is actually pretty misogynist, or at the least fairly ignorant of gender history; there are lots of relevant reasons one might express greater concern if this were 4 older boys and a young girl. having said that, one lesson to take from that is that we apply sex offender status too freely to minors in America.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
The kid isn't "weak", he looks like a normal 11 year old kid. If three 8th grade girls attacked you when you were in 5th grade you, also, would have lost.
If I was in that situation I would've acted like it was enjoyable so the girls would look like sluts and I, a fifth grader that gets it in with eighth grade girls.
On June 05 2011 15:03 jaybee wrote: Oh yeah, that's right. A boy being stripped isn't as bad a girl because it is more offensive and damaging. Also the girls weren't intending to rape him or anything as is usually the case when its the other way around. They were just bullying him, its something we all do so get off your high horse.
You get bullied and the video is posted on the internet. You are a guy, get over it ... ? Really? I have no idea how old you are, but imagine that is your kid that got assaulted. Would it still be cool? If so, never get kids, please.
TT I am met with such hostility. There are only 2 kinds of ideas. One's that match nature and ones that don't. As a scientist I look for those that match nature, all others that don't match reality are worthless. Information is used to make better decisions. Hiding behind ideals makes you weaker.
If that was my son, god forbid, I would have disciplined him. I would teach him not to blame others for things, but to blame himself. You cannot control other people so don't try to. There is always a way around a problem. And that solution is to be one that people wouldn't think to pick on. Do you think these girls would do this to a popular 5th grader. No. They chose the awkward whiny little one because he was easy. I would delude him with ideals I would save him by teaching him how never face an issue like this again. If you don't change the boy it will happen again. He will have to grow up someday.
Let me put this in starcraft terms since we are on TL. Don't be an IdrA and complain its a fault with the game or the player. There is always a solution, an algorithm, to achieve victory. New strategies are still being found in brood war don't fucking tell me something is impossible in sc2.
Okay, so you're fine with men beating and subjugating women? Doing whatever they want to them if they're stronger?
You'd be fine with this boy getting together a bunch of his friends and beating the shit out of those girls? You be fine with his mother beating the shit out of the girls?
If you use this standard, it has to be consistent...
On June 05 2011 15:05 ZiegFeld wrote: The only thing wrong with this was because it was done in public.
When I was 10, the same thing happened to me at the corner of an art classroom. 2 girls were pulling off my shorts, and while I did resist, it was only to make the whole situation a lot more playful and not allow it to escalate (as it was quite impossible anyways).
All he needed to do was go with it as well, girls are only truly violent when you give them reason to do so. In other words, this kid is the happiest brat on the block right now, even if he did put up the wrong resistance and get molested a little.
How is posting the video on youtube and clearly harassing this kid playful and not malicious?
Would any guy here at the age of 10, cared if a video of girls stripping you was put on Youtube? Other than it being a great childhood memory?
This isn't being molested by an uncle or sexually harassed 25 year old female teacher, these are kids of the same age coming to realize their sexuality.
On June 05 2011 15:03 jaybee wrote: Oh yeah, that's right. A boy being stripped isn't as bad a girl because it is more offensive and damaging. Also the girls weren't intending to rape him or anything as is usually the case when its the other way around. They were just bullying him, its something we all do so get off your high horse.
You get bullied and the video is posted on the internet. You are a guy, get over it ... ? Really? I have no idea how old you are, but imagine that is your kid that got assaulted. Would it still be cool? If so, never get kids, please.
TT I am met with such hostility. There are only 2 kinds of ideas. One's that match nature and ones that don't. As a scientist I look for those that match nature, all others that don't match reality are worthless. Information is used to make better decisions. Hiding behind ideals makes you weaker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMDTcMD6pOw
If that was my son, god forbid, I would have disciplined him. I would teach him not to blame others for things, but to blame himself. You cannot control other people so don't try to. There is always a way around a problem. And that solution is to be one that people wouldn't think to pick on. Do you think these girls would do this to a popular 5th grader. No. They chose the awkward whiny little one because he was easy. I would delude him with ideals I would save him by teaching him how never face an issue like this again. If you don't change the boy it will happen again. He will have to grow up someday.
Let me put this in starcraft terms since we are on TL. Don't be an IdrA and complain its a fault with the game or the player. There is always a solution, an algorithm, to achieve victory. New strategies are still being found in brood war don't fucking tell me something is impossible in sc2.
Welcome to the 21st century. We care for the sick, look after the infirm, and tend for the weak. This started happening about the time when the Homo genus came down from trees and started walking upright. Perhaps you should catch the fuck up.
On June 05 2011 15:16 Bambipwnsu wrote: Well..just took a look on 4chan and the picture/faces of the girls just surfaced. Probably might get worse than whatever charges they would have faced...lol
Oh dear. While what they did was decidedly disturbing and WAY over the line, I don't trust random script kiddies from 4chan to not do something absolutely stupid.
I have to agree with the mothers choice to not press charges and ask for parential discipline. I don't know about you guys, but I bet the kid just wants to fight his own battles. No one likes to always be looked after, not to mention the taunting would only increase from something like that as apposed to make it go away.
"LOLOLOL go hide behind your mom you wuss. Watch out for any girls while you run for her aid... lulz!"
On June 05 2011 15:22 DamageControL wrote: I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I think that the girls should be punished and disciplined. On the other hand I'm not sure I agree that the criminal system is the best place for it. The more research I do, the less I think that our criminal justice system is...fair and just.
grats, you are a relatively normal human being with a somewhat nuanced opinion on difficult subjects
On June 05 2011 15:05 ZiegFeld wrote: The only thing wrong with this was because it was done in public.
When I was 10, the same thing happened to me at the corner of an art classroom. 2 girls were pulling off my shorts, and while I did resist, it was only to make the whole situation a lot more playful and not allow it to escalate (as it was quite impossible anyways).
All he needed to do was go with it as well, girls are only truly violent when you give them reason to do so. In other words, this kid is the happiest brat on the block right now, even if he did put up the wrong resistance and get molested a little.
How is posting the video on youtube and clearly harassing this kid playful and not malicious?
Would any guy here at the age of 10, cared if a video of girls stripping you was put on Youtube? Other than it being a great childhood memory?
This isn't being molested by an uncle or sexually harassed 25 year old female teacher, these are kids of the same age coming to realize their sexuality.
Mate, this isn't a case a 3 nubile young ladies sensually caressing a young man, and erotically removing his clothing.
This is a case of 3 young ladies (all 3 of which are bigger than him by a good foot, I might add) bringing a young boy down to the ground, pinning him to the ground with a knee to the throat, and removing his clothing in the most humiliating manner possible, and subsequently broadcasting his humiliation for the world to see...
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Wow you are a fucking retard.
ONE 11 year old vs THREE 14 year old girls.
Dont trivialize this shit just because the genders were reversed.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
I don't understand your outlook. There is more to life than being strong. It isn't like we're hunter-gatherers anymore. Really working out to be anything more than healthy has been relegated to the status of a hobby.
Intelligence should be more highly regarded in our (meaning American, I suppose) society, because intelligence is where most of the potential is.
My outlook is an application of evolution. If you don't believe in science then you will never believe me. Evolution didn't go anywhere it encompasses all life, always and forever.
You don't have to lecture me on evolution. But humans are a particular case in that we have no need to thin out the physically weak from our genome. We really need to be preserving the most mentally capable, because physical strength means next to nothing.
We don't fight wars with our bare hands. We don't chase our food on foot. We don't even have to carry heavy boxes if we don't need to. We have tools. And those tools are designed by those with the mental capacity to do so.
You obviously don't understand or else you wouldn't say what you just said. You don't get to decide what is best for the race, nature does. Emotions are strategy to guide your decision making. You still like large breasted woman with wide hips. Why is that? It is because it increases the chance of surviving labor. By hey look! we are C-sections now! Lets not date the pretty girls anymore lets all date the smart girls. If I could control my emotions I would be rolling around in bliss right now. But nope... I am here typing to you *sigh*. Disprove we don't follow evolution or emotions then I will reconsider your case.
On June 05 2011 15:05 ZiegFeld wrote: The only thing wrong with this was because it was done in public.
When I was 10, the same thing happened to me at the corner of an art classroom. 2 girls were pulling off my shorts, and while I did resist, it was only to make the whole situation a lot more playful and not allow it to escalate (as it was quite impossible anyways).
All he needed to do was go with it as well, girls are only truly violent when you give them reason to do so. In other words, this kid is the happiest brat on the block right now, even if he did put up the wrong resistance and get molested a little.
How is posting the video on youtube and clearly harassing this kid playful and not malicious?
Would any guy here at the age of 10, cared if a video of girls stripping you was put on Youtube? Other than it being a great childhood memory?
This isn't being molested by an uncle or sexually harassed 25 year old female teacher, these are kids of the same age coming to realize their sexuality.
Clearly you do not know what 10 year olds think about because while there might be an interest in the opposite sex, 10 years old is definitely not the age at which you start having sexual attractions like that.
I mean, for whatever age you are now, would you be okay with a video of you being forcibly stripped by girls being posted online? Imagine that they drugged you so you were physically incapable of resisting but were still completely conscious.
Tie all three of the offenders to the spot where they assaulted the boy naked and leave them there for an hour or so while everyone walks by. That would be justice.
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