On June 05 2011 15:03 jaybee wrote: Wow I can't believe you guys are whining about it not being 'fair' that girls can get away with it, but boys can't. Boys and girls aren't the same, welcome to reality kids. Boys can walk around shirtless, but girls can't. Are you starting to see a trend here.
Oh yeah, that's right. A boy being stripped isn't as bad a girl because it is more offensive and damaging. Also the girls weren't intending to rape him or anything as is usually the case when its the other way around. They were just bullying him, its something we all do so get off your high horse.
How about the part where it was three on one and they were older.
I know that at age 11, there were tons of 13/14 year olds who could take me out, boy or girl.
Your stupid, "Strong pick on weak, no big deal" attitude is full of holes as is your double standard since it leaves so much room for stupidity. The ability to run around shirtless is not exactly comparable to the ability to publicly strip and humiliate someone without equal repercussion or condemnation.
I honestly think the mother should have pursued some sort of action, but I can understand her wanting to just move on and forget, particularly if the boy just wanted to forget about it.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
Yes, brilliant idea.
Instead of protecting our young from those who are stronger by virtue of age alone, we should leave them to their suffering.
Jesus.
Oh no! The poor boy was ambushed and viciously attacked! Did you see the same video as me. He was crying like a baby. This didn't happen out of random chance the boy is pathetic. Its okay admitting your faults is the first step to recovering from them. You cannot change human nature, I am sure you have mocking somebody for being stupid before and that is no difference in bullying. In the game of life, survival and evolution are the goals. It happens everyday, the bigger pups will bully the run to death. Why should the other puppies give up food to a weakling? You have lived a comfortable life so i wouldn't expect you to understand. In any case, all animals, including humans, are bound to their emotions. Those girls felt the urge to pick on him and delight in carrying out the act. Do these girls deserve hellfire like the other poster here suggested. Maybe if your a Christian, but lets not get into that.
Can we get this guy banned for trolling? Seriously. I can't think of any other reasoning why you would be "pro-bullying" except for that, barring being a sociopath.
On June 05 2011 15:05 ZiegFeld wrote: The only thing wrong with this was because it was done in public.
When I was 10, the same thing happened to me at the corner of an art classroom. 2 girls were pulling off my shorts, and while I did resist, it was only to make the whole situation a lot more playful and not allow it to escalate (as it was quite impossible anyways).
All he needed to do was go with it as well, girls are only truly violent when you give them reason to do so. In other words, this kid is the happiest brat on the block right now, even if he did put up the wrong resistance and get molested a little.
How is posting the video on youtube and clearly harassing this kid playful and not malicious?
Would any guy here at the age of 10, cared if a video of girls stripping you was put on Youtube? Other than it being a great childhood memory?
This isn't being molested by an uncle or sexually harassed 25 year old female teacher, these are kids of the same age coming to realize their sexuality.
Well..just took a look on 4chan and the picture/faces of the girls just surfaced. Probably might get worse than whatever charges they would have faced...lol
On June 05 2011 14:53 DeepBlu2 wrote: I would post charges on those girls. That's absolutely cruel and they absolutely deserved to be charged.
Seriously? Give me a break.
Yes ... because that video got uploaded to Youtube and anything that is on the internet will stay there ... even if Youtube takes it down there are probably a few copies of the video on some kids mobile phones.
The girls need severe punishment and at least they need to apologize to the boy ... in public. If nothing is done you basically show other "courageous girls" that it is ok to do it, because there wont be a punishment. That is how laws work ... as a deterrent ... and if they dont act as a deterrent you only deliver the message that its ok to do it.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
I don't understand your outlook. There is more to life than being strong. It isn't like we're hunter-gatherers anymore. Really working out to be anything more than healthy has been relegated to the status of a hobby.
Intelligence should be more highly regarded in our (meaning American, I suppose) society, because intelligence is where most of the potential is.
My outlook is an application of evolution. If you don't believe in science then you will never believe me. Evolution didn't go anywhere it encompasses all life, always and forever.
You have to be fucking trolling?
Or do you want to actually clear up your application of these beliefs, because using this men should be able to do whatever the fuck they want to women and subjugate them as they please.
Fort Myers Police says the girl would have faced misdemeanor battery charges, but that the boy's mother has refused to press charges. She wants the girls' parents to hand out a punishment instead.
?????
If the sexes were reversed the title would read "Teenage gang raped young girl - to tried as adult offenders"
So lets say I go rape those girls "as a prank" to retaliate for the boy would I only have my parents yell at me?
Feminists kept fighting for equal rights, and in many places both sexes are seen as equals - but "rape/misconduct/sexual assault" remain mostly as a crime against men.
retributive justice is neither just nor efficacious, and 14 year old perpetrators regardless of offence (or gender, for that matter) need therapy, not punishment. the mother in this case is doing the right thing, assuming she pursues some seriously necessary discussions with the parents of the perpetrators -- which, frankly, are none of our business. honestly, the saddest thing about this case is that it became a news cycle item for anchors to smirk about and web forum commentators to chew apart, as this is nothing but harmful to the actual people involved.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
I don't understand your outlook. There is more to life than being strong. It isn't like we're hunter-gatherers anymore. Really working out to be anything more than healthy has been relegated to the status of a hobby.
Intelligence should be more highly regarded in our (meaning American, I suppose) society, because intelligence is where most of the potential is.
My outlook is an application of evolution. If you don't believe in science then you will never believe me. Evolution didn't go anywhere it encompasses all life, always and forever.
You have to be fucking trolling?
Or do you want to actually clear up your application of these beliefs, because using this men should be able to do whatever the fuck they want to women and subjugate them as they please.
It's a shitty outlook in modern day application.
Agreed. This guy has to be trolling, no one is this devoid of intelligence.
On June 05 2011 14:43 Hakker wrote: Justice? punishment? they just took the kids clothes off lol
if anything in 5 years he'll look back on how lucky he was.
3 14 year old boys forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old girl, and they go on the sex offenders register.
3 14 year old girls forcibly restrain and remove the clothes of an 11 year old boy, and its a harmless prank that maybe got a little bit out of hand.
This is exactly what's wrong with the world -_-
But females are the ones rallying for equality...what?
I wish the world was different and equality meant equality, because whenever there's an uprising about equality the governing body makes the protesting group legally superior...foreigners/Aboriginals in Australia is an example that comes to mind for me.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
I don't understand your outlook. There is more to life than being strong. It isn't like we're hunter-gatherers anymore. Really working out to be anything more than healthy has been relegated to the status of a hobby.
Intelligence should be more highly regarded in our (meaning American, I suppose) society, because intelligence is where most of the potential is.
My outlook is an application of evolution. If you don't believe in science then you will never believe me. Evolution didn't go anywhere it encompasses all life, always and forever.
You have to be fucking trolling?
Or do you want to actually clear up your application of these beliefs, because using this men should be able to do whatever the fuck they want to women and subjugate them as they please.
It's a shitty outlook in modern day application.
Agreed. This guy has to be trolling, no one is this devoid of intelligence.
You guys are even more devoid of intelligence for feeding him.
On June 05 2011 15:03 jaybee wrote: Oh yeah, that's right. A boy being stripped isn't as bad a girl because it is more offensive and damaging. Also the girls weren't intending to rape him or anything as is usually the case when its the other way around. They were just bullying him, its something we all do so get off your high horse.
You get bullied and the video is posted on the internet. You are a guy, get over it ... ? Really? I have no idea how old you are, but imagine that is your kid that got assaulted. Would it still be cool? If so, never get kids, please.
TT I am met with such hostility. There are only 2 kinds of ideas. One's that match nature and ones that don't. As a scientist I look for those that match nature, all others that don't match reality are worthless. Information is used to make better decisions. Hiding behind ideals makes you weaker.
If that was my son, god forbid, I would have disciplined him. I would teach him not to blame others for things, but to blame himself. You cannot control other people so don't try to. There is always a way around a problem. And that solution is to be one that people wouldn't think to pick on. Do you think these girls would do this to a popular 5th grader. No. They chose the awkward whiny little one because he was easy. I would delude him with ideals I would save him by teaching him how never face an issue like this again. If you don't change the boy it will happen again. He will have to grow up someday.
Let me put this in starcraft terms since we are on TL. Don't be an IdrA and complain its a fault with the game or the player. There is always a solution, an algorithm, to achieve victory. New strategies are still being found in brood war don't fucking tell me something is impossible in sc2.
On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine.
Would you consider yourself "fine" if you were abused like that and your humiliation was put on YouTube, for the whole wide world to see? All your enemies and friends alike would have something else to tease you about, which has varying extremities, depending on his current social status.
You said if it happened to you that you would work to make the lives of the girls a living hell. It would be hypocritical to call bullying immoral and torturing moral by your standards. If I was bullied by girls I would admit that I am a pathetic man. I would also be wise enough to know that there is a way out it. Bullying happens for a reason, and all social animals do it. It is because you are weak and instead of getting 'revenge' try and become stronger so it never happens again.
I don't understand your outlook. There is more to life than being strong. It isn't like we're hunter-gatherers anymore. Really working out to be anything more than healthy has been relegated to the status of a hobby.
Intelligence should be more highly regarded in our (meaning American, I suppose) society, because intelligence is where most of the potential is.
My outlook is an application of evolution. If you don't believe in science then you will never believe me. Evolution didn't go anywhere it encompasses all life, always and forever.
You don't have to lecture me on evolution. But humans are a particular case in that we have no need to thin out the physically weak from our gene pool (edit: clarified word). We really need to be preserving the most mentally capable, because physical strength means next to nothing.
We don't fight wars with our bare hands. We don't chase our food on foot. We don't even have to carry heavy boxes if we don't need to. We have tools. And those tools are designed by those with the mental capacity to do so.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand I think that the girls should be punished and disciplined. On the other hand I'm not sure I agree that the criminal system is the best place for it. The more research I do, the less I think that our criminal justice system is...fair and just.
On June 05 2011 15:05 ZiegFeld wrote: The only thing wrong with this was because it was done in public.
When I was 10, the same thing happened to me at the corner of an art classroom. 2 girls were pulling off my shorts, and while I did resist, it was only to make the whole situation a lot more playful and not allow it to escalate (as it was quite impossible anyways).
All he needed to do was go with it as well, girls are only truly violent when you give them reason to do so. In other words, this kid is the happiest brat on the block right now, even if he did put up the wrong resistance and get molested a little.
How is posting the video on youtube and clearly harassing this kid playful and not malicious?
Would any guy here at the age of 10, cared if a video of girls stripping you was put on Youtube? Other than it being a great childhood memory?
This isn't being molested by an uncle or sexually harassed 25 year old female teacher, these are kids of the same age coming to realize their sexuality.
EPT
