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On June 09 2011 01:06 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:02 splinter9 wrote:
When you guys grow up and realize that life isn't a 1+1 = 2 subject. You'll hopefully remember this thread and might know what im talking about. Until then everyone is entitled to there opinion even if its wrong. Just out of curiosity, how old are you?
Hahaha I was thinking the exact same thing. Ironic that the post implies he is older and wiser yet it reeks of immaturity.
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On June 09 2011 01:05 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:02 splinter9 wrote:
When you guys grow up and realize that life isn't a 1+1 = 2 subject. You'll hopefully remember this thread and might know what im talking about. Until then everyone is entitled to there opinion even if its wrong. "I know I've lost the argument so I'm just gonna call you a kid then pretentiously type out nonsense."
it not about winning and losing. It only seems like non sense cause your still too young or immature to understand.
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On June 09 2011 01:08 splinter9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:05 Olinim wrote:On June 09 2011 01:02 splinter9 wrote:
When you guys grow up and realize that life isn't a 1+1 = 2 subject. You'll hopefully remember this thread and might know what im talking about. Until then everyone is entitled to there opinion even if its wrong. "I know I've lost the argument so I'm just gonna call you a kid then pretentiously type out nonsense." it not about winning and losing. It only seems like non sense cause your still too young or immature to understand.
Is it logical fallacy day or something? If so give this wise geezer a medal.
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On June 09 2011 00:42 splinter9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 00:32 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 00:27 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:23 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 00:17 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:03 gold_ wrote:On June 08 2011 23:56 splinter9 wrote:
way too many idealistic 16 year old school boys with all the answers in here. In life there are double standards everywhere go learn to live with it.
Can someone please bring up the stats of how many rapes happen women on man vs. Men on women. I don't know the stats by my guess is that they are staggeringly in favour of the latter. You guys can fight it all you want with your revolutionary equal-ism talk. But you just have to realize that boys doing this to a girl is totally different. Mind you its not inexcusable for the girls, to act like this.
For those of you that seem to think men and women are equal, can you explain why i have balls and my wife doesn't? Another piss poor stereotype here, we aren't all 16 years old. You and your wife are EQUAL in regards to your rights as a person, like me and my wife are EQUAL. Why should what hangs or doesn't hang between your legs allow you to more or less rights? It shouldn't, and doesn't. Yes on paper women and men should be equal. But there are many grey areas of life that you can't just "paint with one pleasing colour". This happens to be one of those areas. Ill give another example of one of these "grey areas" I don't know if you have children but lets say you have a daughter and a son both seventeen and they tell you they are going to a party tonight where they will be only hanging out with people of the opposite sex. Tell me who are you more worried for? I actually have a son & daughter, I treat them equally and always will. I will not show biased for either, and tell them both to be careful. I love them both equally. I am sorry for the way your mind works, did something bad happen to you? Or you just brainwashed by news? you didn't answer my question. Yet you skillfully danced around the subject. Yes my daughter and son will be treated equally 95% of the time. To treat them absolutely equally is ridiculous and not even possible girls and boys have totally different upbringing. I am not dancing around any question.... ? I WILL treat both my kids equally, you opinion won't change my mind. What do you mean have different upbringings? If my daughter wants to play soccer like my son, so be it. My son and daughter both go to dance class, nothing wrong with that either. If either of my kids cry, I will hug them and help them with whatever there problem is. How or why should I treat them differently? actually your still dancing. Yes with those simple life issues that you mentioned yes they are obviously going to be treated 1000% equally. If my daughter gets a cookie so will my son. I will also kiss my son's "bobo's" better t. I will sing them both sweet lullabys to fall asleep at night. But if i catch my son banging a 24 year old when he is 17 vs my daughter doing the same you better believe i wont be treating them equally.
Dude get your head checked. You are the definition of sexism.
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i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot is just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist
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You and your wife are EQUAL in regards to your rights as a person, like me and my wife are EQUAL. Why should what hangs or doesn't hang between your legs allow you to more or less rights? It shouldn't, and doesn't.
Technically, they aren't, there is no place in the constitution (or the amendments) where it says that women and men are equal. Usually that is placed in the context of (used to be that) men could be paid more than women, and such. But in this argument, women could feasibly have the right to press charges in this situation, while men could not.
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On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist
Proud to be a sexist. Well you don't hear that every day.
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On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist
Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night!
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On June 09 2011 01:19 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night!
yeah cause kids always do as they are told even with greatest up bringing you could imagine.
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On June 09 2011 01:20 splinter9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:19 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night! yeah cause kids always do as they are told even with greatest up bringing you could imagine.
You can only do so much bud, you have to understand they grow up. Everyone makes mistakes whether its big or small. I understand when my kids get older I will have a difficult time watching them both grow up and make decisions themselves, but that's life. All you can do is help guide them on the right path, not treat them differently for who they date (basically, I mean have sex with). It will only give you high blood pressure, and you will be older at that time too! :D
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Whats a boy is that? Get raped by girls? Won't happen in europe!
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On June 09 2011 01:24 LeBroom wrote:
Whats a boy is that? Get raped by girls? Won't happen in europe!
Trolling hard, I see.
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On June 09 2011 01:24 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:20 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 01:19 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night! yeah cause kids always do as they are told even with greatest up bringing you could imagine. You can only do so much bud, you have to understand they grow up. Everyone makes mistakes whether its big or small. I understand when my kids get older I will have a difficult time watching them both grow up and make decisions themselves, but that's life. All you can do is help guide them on the right path, not treat them differently for who they date (basically, I mean have sex with). It will only give you high blood pressure, and you will be older at that time too! :D
Its your responsibility as a parent to anticipate stupid easy mistakes your kids may make especially when there lives and dignity are at stake.I really don't think that is to much to ask of myself.
I don't see why you are so adverse to saying that your son and daughter are going to be treated slightly differently in certain situations. Its actually a beautiful thing not something to say is terrible.
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On June 09 2011 01:35 splinter9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:24 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:20 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 01:19 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night! yeah cause kids always do as they are told even with greatest up bringing you could imagine. You can only do so much bud, you have to understand they grow up. Everyone makes mistakes whether its big or small. I understand when my kids get older I will have a difficult time watching them both grow up and make decisions themselves, but that's life. All you can do is help guide them on the right path, not treat them differently for who they date (basically, I mean have sex with). It will only give you high blood pressure, and you will be older at that time too! :D Its your responsibility as a parent to anticipate stupid easy mistakes your kids may make especially when there lives and dignity are at stake.I really don't think that is to much to ask of myself. I don't see why you are so adverse to saying that your son and daughter are going to be treated slightly differently in certain situations. Its actually a beautiful thing not something to say is terrible.
So back on topic, if this kind of thing happens to your son or daughter. You would want the people responsible to be punished equally or not? ( Example: 3 older girls doing this to your son, or 3 older boys doing this to your daughter. )
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On June 09 2011 01:48 gold_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:35 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 01:24 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:20 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 01:19 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night! yeah cause kids always do as they are told even with greatest up bringing you could imagine. You can only do so much bud, you have to understand they grow up. Everyone makes mistakes whether its big or small. I understand when my kids get older I will have a difficult time watching them both grow up and make decisions themselves, but that's life. All you can do is help guide them on the right path, not treat them differently for who they date (basically, I mean have sex with). It will only give you high blood pressure, and you will be older at that time too! :D Its your responsibility as a parent to anticipate stupid easy mistakes your kids may make especially when there lives and dignity are at stake.I really don't think that is to much to ask of myself. I don't see why you are so adverse to saying that your son and daughter are going to be treated slightly differently in certain situations. Its actually a beautiful thing not something to say is terrible. So back on topic, if this kind of thing happens to your son or daughter. You would want the people responsible to be punished equally or not? ( Example: 3 older girls doing this to your son, or 3 older boys doing this to your daughter. )
yes i have said that clearly many pages ago they should be punished by there parents or school. Going to court is just a waste of time and money as well as detrimental to everyone involved. There just a couple of kids messing around here no one got hurt physically and theboy obviously wasn't that damaged, he didn't even tell his parents. Now were just piling on this kids embarassment by making it go public. If it went to court he would be dragged in and out of court for years, which is a terrible thing to put a kid through worse then what actually happened to him.
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If I was his older brother, I'd throw these girls down a flight of stairs and post the results on youtube.
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On June 09 2011 01:11 absalom86 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 00:42 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:32 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 00:27 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:23 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 00:17 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:03 gold_ wrote:On June 08 2011 23:56 splinter9 wrote:
way too many idealistic 16 year old school boys with all the answers in here. In life there are double standards everywhere go learn to live with it.
Can someone please bring up the stats of how many rapes happen women on man vs. Men on women. I don't know the stats by my guess is that they are staggeringly in favour of the latter. You guys can fight it all you want with your revolutionary equal-ism talk. But you just have to realize that boys doing this to a girl is totally different. Mind you its not inexcusable for the girls, to act like this.
For those of you that seem to think men and women are equal, can you explain why i have balls and my wife doesn't? Another piss poor stereotype here, we aren't all 16 years old. You and your wife are EQUAL in regards to your rights as a person, like me and my wife are EQUAL. Why should what hangs or doesn't hang between your legs allow you to more or less rights? It shouldn't, and doesn't. Yes on paper women and men should be equal. But there are many grey areas of life that you can't just "paint with one pleasing colour". This happens to be one of those areas. Ill give another example of one of these "grey areas" I don't know if you have children but lets say you have a daughter and a son both seventeen and they tell you they are going to a party tonight where they will be only hanging out with people of the opposite sex. Tell me who are you more worried for? I actually have a son & daughter, I treat them equally and always will. I will not show biased for either, and tell them both to be careful. I love them both equally. I am sorry for the way your mind works, did something bad happen to you? Or you just brainwashed by news? you didn't answer my question. Yet you skillfully danced around the subject. Yes my daughter and son will be treated equally 95% of the time. To treat them absolutely equally is ridiculous and not even possible girls and boys have totally different upbringing. I am not dancing around any question.... ? I WILL treat both my kids equally, you opinion won't change my mind. What do you mean have different upbringings? If my daughter wants to play soccer like my son, so be it. My son and daughter both go to dance class, nothing wrong with that either. If either of my kids cry, I will hug them and help them with whatever there problem is. How or why should I treat them differently? actually your still dancing. Yes with those simple life issues that you mentioned yes they are obviously going to be treated 1000% equally. If my daughter gets a cookie so will my son. I will also kiss my son's "bobo's" better t. I will sing them both sweet lullabys to fall asleep at night. But if i catch my son banging a 24 year old when he is 17 vs my daughter doing the same you better believe i wont be treating them equally. Dude get your head checked. You are the definition of sexism.
Actually not really "Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century, is the belief or attitude that one sex is inherently superior to, more competent than, or more valuable than the other. It can also include this type of discrimination in regards to gender." - Wikipedia
He is just saying that he would be more worried about is daughter, because it is a chance chance that she will get raped at a party then his son..obviously..
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On June 09 2011 01:57 splinter9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:48 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:35 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 01:24 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:20 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 01:19 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot in just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Then I feel sorry for you. Just talk to your children and explain the consequences of having sex, and how to protect themselves. Then you can sleep easier at night! yeah cause kids always do as they are told even with greatest up bringing you could imagine. You can only do so much bud, you have to understand they grow up. Everyone makes mistakes whether its big or small. I understand when my kids get older I will have a difficult time watching them both grow up and make decisions themselves, but that's life. All you can do is help guide them on the right path, not treat them differently for who they date (basically, I mean have sex with). It will only give you high blood pressure, and you will be older at that time too! :D Its your responsibility as a parent to anticipate stupid easy mistakes your kids may make especially when there lives and dignity are at stake.I really don't think that is to much to ask of myself. I don't see why you are so adverse to saying that your son and daughter are going to be treated slightly differently in certain situations. Its actually a beautiful thing not something to say is terrible. So back on topic, if this kind of thing happens to your son or daughter. You would want the people responsible to be punished equally or not? ( Example: 3 older girls doing this to your son, or 3 older boys doing this to your daughter. ) yes i have said that clearly many pages ago they should be punished by there parents or school. Going to court is just a waste of time and money as well as detrimental to everyone involved. There just a couple of kids messing around here no one got hurt physically and theboy obviously wasn't that damaged, he didn't even tell his parents. Now were just piling on this kids embarassment by making it go public. If it went to court he would be dragged in and out of court for years, which is a terrible thing to put a kid through worse then what actually happened to him.
He probably didn't tell his parents out of embarrassment I would assume. But I am glad to see you would want both situations dealt with equally.
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On June 09 2011 02:11 Roflhaxx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 01:11 absalom86 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:42 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:32 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 00:27 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:23 gold_ wrote:On June 09 2011 00:17 splinter9 wrote:On June 09 2011 00:03 gold_ wrote:On June 08 2011 23:56 splinter9 wrote:
way too many idealistic 16 year old school boys with all the answers in here. In life there are double standards everywhere go learn to live with it.
Can someone please bring up the stats of how many rapes happen women on man vs. Men on women. I don't know the stats by my guess is that they are staggeringly in favour of the latter. You guys can fight it all you want with your revolutionary equal-ism talk. But you just have to realize that boys doing this to a girl is totally different. Mind you its not inexcusable for the girls, to act like this.
For those of you that seem to think men and women are equal, can you explain why i have balls and my wife doesn't? Another piss poor stereotype here, we aren't all 16 years old. You and your wife are EQUAL in regards to your rights as a person, like me and my wife are EQUAL. Why should what hangs or doesn't hang between your legs allow you to more or less rights? It shouldn't, and doesn't. Yes on paper women and men should be equal. But there are many grey areas of life that you can't just "paint with one pleasing colour". This happens to be one of those areas. Ill give another example of one of these "grey areas" I don't know if you have children but lets say you have a daughter and a son both seventeen and they tell you they are going to a party tonight where they will be only hanging out with people of the opposite sex. Tell me who are you more worried for? I actually have a son & daughter, I treat them equally and always will. I will not show biased for either, and tell them both to be careful. I love them both equally. I am sorry for the way your mind works, did something bad happen to you? Or you just brainwashed by news? you didn't answer my question. Yet you skillfully danced around the subject. Yes my daughter and son will be treated equally 95% of the time. To treat them absolutely equally is ridiculous and not even possible girls and boys have totally different upbringing. I am not dancing around any question.... ? I WILL treat both my kids equally, you opinion won't change my mind. What do you mean have different upbringings? If my daughter wants to play soccer like my son, so be it. My son and daughter both go to dance class, nothing wrong with that either. If either of my kids cry, I will hug them and help them with whatever there problem is. How or why should I treat them differently? actually your still dancing. Yes with those simple life issues that you mentioned yes they are obviously going to be treated 1000% equally. If my daughter gets a cookie so will my son. I will also kiss my son's "bobo's" better t. I will sing them both sweet lullabys to fall asleep at night. But if i catch my son banging a 24 year old when he is 17 vs my daughter doing the same you better believe i wont be treating them equally. Dude get your head checked. You are the definition of sexism. Actually not really "Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century, is the belief or attitude that one sex is inherently superior to, more competent than, or more valuable than the other. It can also include this type of discrimination in regards to gender." - Wikipedia He is just saying that he would be more worried about is daughter, because it is a chance chance that she will get raped at a party then his son..obviously..
Here's another definition
" Sexism -behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex "
"But if i catch my son banging a 24 year old when he is 17 vs my daughter doing the same you better believe i wont be treating them equally."
"Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist"
These are things he said. His son would be just as likely to get an std, a number of things could happen to him, just as bad as what could happen to his daughter, but its clear he subscribes to the helpless victim stereotypes. He even admits he would barely be worried about his son in that situation. Yes, there are generally biological differences between boys and girls.
It's best to parent/judge accordingly based on the person themselves, not their gender, clearly something this person would not do. "You're a girl? NO SEX WITH SOMEONE ABOVE YOUR AGE!!!" "Screwing that 30 year old milf, son? Nice job buddy!"
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On June 09 2011 01:16 splinter9 wrote:
i don't see how you see those situations as equal. A 17 year old boy in that spot is just getting his kicks. Where as a girl is literally putting her life in danger wheather she knows it or not. Im not saying id pat my son on the back, but it would'nt keep me up at night worrying the same way it would with my daughter. If that sexist then im proud to be your definetion of a sexist Sure, a lot of people subconsciously or deliberately value females higher than men. But if you claim that it's more dangerous to be a female as well I'd like to see some sources, because as far as I know it's generally more dangerous to be a man than a woman, by a large margin.
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