Smoking Ban in NYC - Page 21

On May 24 2011 23:39 jaydubz wrote:


We have rules in place to prevent cars from driving on sidewalks.

On May 24 2011 23:37 Ghostcom wrote:


Are you also pro banning all cars in New York? They harm you a lot more than walking behind a person who smokes...

On May 24 2011 23:37 Ghostcom wrote:


Are you also pro banning all cars in New York? They harm you a lot more than walking behind a person who smokes...

actually you're so used to car and industrial pollution that your brain doesnt register it anymore. its still there, and its incredibly potent.

take a country child to somewhere like london city and they will start coughing and gagging and feel ill constantly, because they are not used to the fumes.

i know this because it happened to me and i remember it

On May 24 2011 23:45 jaydubz wrote:


Actually my point is that we have designated driving areas. If you don't want to inhale exhaust smoke, you can simply choose not to stand behind cars in the street.

On May 24 2011 23:37 BroodjeBaller wrote:

first paragraph
"When non-smokers are exposed to secondhand smoke it is called involuntary smoking or passive smoking. Non-smokers who breathe in secondhand smoke take in nicotine and other toxic chemicals just like smokers do. The more secondhand smoke you are exposed to, the higher the level of these harmful chemicals in your body."

You have to be quite ignorant to be believe that when you smoke outdoors its suddenly not harmful.
It might be less harmful than smoking indoors because the concentration of cancer-causing agents is lower, but its still harmful.
Its not a matter of opinion. Its all just one big probability calculation whether or not these agents damage your DNA and cause cancer.

Besides this, when you think about it there isnt even a good reason for smoking to exist in the first place. Its useless and doesnt have any benefits.
The only reason it still exists is because of the taxes.

On May 24 2011 23:56 Musclecore wrote:
I think it's kind of silly, and that they should out right just illegalize smoking tobacco right away, since that seems to be the long term goal anyway. The attacks and the stigmatizing way of doing it right now is far too fascistic and inhumane for my likings. Keeping it legal at this point is basically a kick in the face of all that smoke.

PS. I smoke.

On May 24 2011 14:14 VIB wrote:
Yes, a country where people are free to walk in the park free of cigarette butts and without having to smell others smoking.

On May 25 2011 00:00 jaydubz wrote:
While the automotive industry probably causes more harm than second hand smoke, it is heavily regulated and the movement to cleaner energy sources is being made. Would I support the ban of all gasoline powered automobiles? No.

Would I support the ban of all tobacco smoking? No.

Comparing the automotive industry to the cigarette industry is a bad argument anyway. One actually brings benefits to society.

On May 25 2011 00:04 ComaDose wrote:
To people saying smoking is useless:
So is ice cream. It feels good, infinitely more so when you are addicted to nicotine.
I would compare it to the feeling you get chugging a tall glass of water when you are extremely thirsty. But you can get it every couple hours.
Manages stress and helps kill time. Get more breaks at work ;p.
Negatives? Yeah kills you, bad breath, yellow teeth aging quicker...
But go eat another cheese burger ill have a king size stick of cancer and endorphins.
And we might both get hit by a car tomorrow.

Should people be subjected to second hand smoke? No.
A university campus is crowded and full of sensitive young people who can hardly remember their mothers lighting up in pizza hut after the buffet. Perhaps their bodies are more susceptible to these few parts per million in passing breaths than those people of the centuries past where there were no laws.
But these sensitive people do not enjoy the smell. My university imposed a 10m from any entrance law that is reasonable and generally unobserved. I am a courteous smoker, i smoke in smoking areas and avoid walking and smoking down busy pathways. People should be courteous but they are not and thus implementing rules to make them so is reasonable. Smoking in your car is taking the initiative to isolate yourself from those that may be offended and banning such is excessive and unnecessary.
Rules for smoking in public are reasonable. This set of rules is to strict.

On May 24 2011 23:59 FFGenerations wrote:


except that the people in positions of power are the ones profiting from it, so its never ever going to change. but you knew that, im not being condescending