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QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:01:42
May 23 2011 21:01 GMT
#1
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New York (CNN) -- Smokers in New York City looking to light up in most public places will not be able to without paying a price after an outdoor citywide smoking ban takes effect Monday.

The law, which Mayor Michael Bloomberg signed in February after it was passed by the New York City Council, will make smoking illegal in New York City's 1,700 parks and on the city's 14 miles of public beaches. Smoking will also be prohibited in pedestrian plazas like Times Square.

The ban is designed to help curb exposure to secondhand smoke as well as reduce litter.

Secondhand smoke causes close to 50,000 deaths per year, and side effects may include lung cancer, respiratory infections and asthma, according to the American Lung Association's website. Cigarette butts account for 75% of the litter found on New York City beaches, according to a news release from Bloomberg's office.

"Smoking in parks and beaches not only harms people trying to enjoy these recreational facilities, it also causes a litter problem that harms the beauty of our parks," Bloomberg said before he signed the bill into law.

New York follows in the footsteps of 105 municipalities (in states including California, Hawaii, Massachusetts and New Jersey) that have banned smoking on public beaches, according to data from the advocacy group Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights. Major cities include Los Angeles, Minneapolis and Seattle.

In states including California, Texas, Illinois, Minnesota and New Jersey, 507 municipalities impose laws that prohibit city parks, or specifically named city parks, to allow smoking. Major cities include Los Angeles, San Francisco and Salt Lake City.

Puerto Rico prohibits smoking in all parks and beaches.

"These smoke-free laws start at a local level," said Cynthia Hallett, executive director of Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights. "They are based on community demand, science looking at exposure to secondhand smoke and the environmental impact."

Thirty-five states have laws in effect that require 100% smoke-free nonhospitality workplaces, restaurants or bars, according to the American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation's "Summary of 100% Smokefree State Laws and Population Protected by 100% U.S. Smokefree Laws" compiled in April 2011.

In all, 79.4% of the country's population is covered by local and state laws banning smoking.

Hallett added that the trend to ban smoking is working from the inside out, starting in the indoor workplace, moving to restaurants with patios and then eventually to the great outdoors.

Not all New Yorkers are embracing the ban. New York City C.L.A.S.H. (Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment), a grass-roots organization, is staging a "smoke in the park" to call for repeal or to simply demonstrate anger, according to the group's website.

The ban will be enforced by the city's parks department, and if violators are caught, they could be fined $50.

New York passed its first Smoke Free Air Act in 1988, when smoking was banned in public restrooms and taxicabs. Since then, the law has been amended three times, most notably in 2002, when smoking in some indoor areas -- including restaurants and bars -- was banned.


Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/23/new.york.smoking.ban/index.html?hpt=T2

This has caught my eye because there will also be a smoking ban coming soon to my college campus (UMass Amherst) where you won't even be able to smoke in your own car on campus. What is Team Liquid's opinions/views on this?
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Valestrum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
May 23 2011 21:04 GMT
#2
I'm glad, smoking is a bad habit. It doesn't do anything good for us.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
indigoawareness
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovakia273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 18:11:23
May 23 2011 21:04 GMT
#3
They banned smoking on my campus and it made no difference. Well for the most part, smoking on campus is frowned upon more, you see less people walking and smoking. Dirty looks are more intense. Other then that it didn't mean anything, the spots where people traditionally smoked, outside the libro etc, were the same after a few months.

I was also in Paris and Amsterdam the week before they shut down indoor smoking in all of europe, that was an interesting experience. It is better that way though, indoor smoking is just disgusting and makes you feel even worse. Smoking is going to be more and more restricted but there will never a time when you can't go outside and enjoy a smoke.


TLDR I wouldn't worry about.

EDIT: On the topic of cigarette butts. They are made of cellulose, the same thing as plant cell walls, and break down very nicely and fairly quickly. If anything you should thank me for fertilizing the soil.
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Smapz
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway405 Posts
May 23 2011 21:04 GMT
#4
I'm objective in this case, I can see the pros and cons for both sides. However, I think it's a good thing, as it rewards the healthier ways of life.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 23 2011 21:07 GMT
#5
new yorker here. i'm generally fine with it. granted, i dont regularly smoke cigarettes but the overwrought comparisons to hitler/stalin/dictator of your choice strike me as more cranky than credible. a $50 fine (aka the price of a few packs of cigs) in parks is nothing terrible. it's not a citywide ban afaik, it's parks, beaches and large plazas. go to the sidewalk and smoke, you'll be fine.
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scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
May 23 2011 21:07 GMT
#6
This is really a tough call. The smoker should have the right to smoke wherever he pleases. However the non-smoker should be allowed a smoke-free environment. It's just a pile of fuck I tells ya.
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
May 23 2011 21:07 GMT
#7
happens to many colleges and unis but they don't really spend the time to enforce it, but if they do enforce it go for a vapor cig, they'll even help you quit... supposedly...
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
May 23 2011 21:07 GMT
#8
You ever been to a park or beach that allows stupid lazy smokers to drop that crap on the ground?? All for this 100%.

The thing about not smoking in cars is pretty dumb though.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#9
Kind of odd. I've never experienced a problem with secondhand smoke in most of the places it will be banned. Do they think I get inundated with smoke in Central Park? I'm all for banning smoke in restaurants and places like that, but bans at parks and beaches? I don't care either way, but it's definitely going to rile people up who think it's NY once again acting like your nanny.
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
May 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#10
This is getting out of hand imo. Banning smoking at bars I can understand, the air can get sticky and tear-inducing at times.
But why ban people from smoking in public? It's neither harming nor annoying anyone. If I lived in NYC, I'd be pretty mad about this.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
krok(obs)
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:09:41
May 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#11
tend to see the good sides of it only. in 20-30 years to come people will be looking back at our time thinking :" science damn it, how could they be so irresponsible towards each other? smoking next to another person? affecting other peoples health in a negative way? thank science this is over!!"
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 23 2011 21:09 GMT
#12
On May 24 2011 06:08 insaneMicro wrote:
This is getting out of hand imo. Banning smoking at bars I can understand, the air can get sticky and tear-inducing at times.
But why ban people from smoking in public? It's neither harming nor annoying anyone. If I lived in NYC, I'd be pretty mad about this.


it's not 'in public', it's in parks, beaches, plazas, etc. crowded places where it is, in fact, harming and annoying people.
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Moldwood
Profile Joined April 2011
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:11:32
May 23 2011 21:09 GMT
#13
There is no form a litter that plagues this earth moreso than the blanket of fuckin cigarette butts that litter every populated place at this point. EVERYONE in my circle of friends smokes. Not ONE of them EVER thinks to actually throw away their butts properly afterwards. People just don't think about it for some reason. Personally, I could care less for people's health because it is their choice and they can choose to stop at any point (thought it's not easy of course). But I am sick and tired of seeing the trash literally everywhere I go.

I saw a couple of little portable containers designed for holding your butts advertised a while back, but, unfortunately it looks like they never got popular. Someone needs to really start marketing things like this, if people actually cared you'd be rich!
"You drone I void ray I win" --oGsMC
Blizzard_torments_me
Profile Joined February 2010
Romania199 Posts
May 23 2011 21:10 GMT
#14
Kinda ironic really. They let stuff like like gun rights for civilians run free but they ban smoking.
Dugrok
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:11:29
May 23 2011 21:10 GMT
#15
I understand that pros most definitely outweigh the cons to this, but it seems lame that someone couldn't even smoke within their own car. Of course they probably can in their own home I'm assuming, so at least that's one place.

I'm not a smoker myself, and this does kind of strike me as an invasion of privacy. I'm for it, but I can see this being debated.

As long as similar laws don't follow for drinking, it's alllll good.

Edit: I guess that already exists technically; they're only doing to smoking what has already been done to alcohol. After some thought, I can't really see anything wrong with this.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 23 2011 21:10 GMT
#16
I think marijuana should be legal because tabacco is worse and you don't see anyone trying to make it illegal or anything like that.

Wait, what?

Seriously tho, smoking is forbidden indoors for any public place in my state (bars, night clubs included). And it only had positive consequences. So I approve anything in the similar direction ^^ Banning outdoor smoking sounds like just a logical step further. I'm all for it.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:13:07
May 23 2011 21:12 GMT
#17
Sorry Moldwood, I would be one of your friends who drops it anywhere. I admit guilt lol it's such a weird phenomenon, I never understood how I could flick a cigarette out of my car window in front of a cop but couldn't spit out orange seeds at a stoplight (yes, I was let off with a warning, prick cop lol)
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
May 23 2011 21:12 GMT
#18
I dont smoke and think this is an excellent idea - I just wish it took more of a nation wide effect. The negative impacts of smoking to those around the smoker have been well documented over and over. There is no excuse to continue to smoke.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:15:10
May 23 2011 21:14 GMT
#19
I've smoked in parks and at beaches here in California that have posted signs and I haven't been given a ticket a yet. NYC though might be more uptight about it.
There's no S in KT. :P
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 21:19:34
May 23 2011 21:15 GMT
#20
I honestly can't wait to see campus police write people up for smoking at the bus stops at my college when this happens. Hopefully the campus won't go communist by not implementing smoking areas so the ban goes smoothly, or to a tobacco-free campus that all the non-smokers dream of.

edit: I'm sure everyone has been to NYC, and has almost been ran over by a cab, or shoved by a prude businessman while crossing the street. Everyone seems really uptight in NYC, I'm scared for the violent internet videos relating to this ban to come up.
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
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