EPTSmoking Ban in NYC - Page 2
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Hokay
United States738 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:14 Baarn wrote: I've smoked in parks here in California and I haven't been given a ticket a yet. NYC though might be more uptight about it. I doubt it. It seems like one of those laws that just hope you follow it cause it's a law. Edit: actually, does the NYPD even acknowledge this law, or is it just the park services? | ||
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Tweleve
United States644 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:04 Valestrum wrote: I'm glad, smoking is a bad habit. It doesn't do anything good for us. Neither does playing StarCraft but we like it anyway | ||
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:10 Blizzard_torments_me wrote: Kinda ironic really. They let stuff like like gun rights for civilians run free but they ban smoking. Except in New York firearms are banned unless you're an officer or something of that nature. OT: I think it's great, I hate walking to school and there is someone in front of me smoking and all the smoke gets blown into my face. One step at a time. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
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zasda
381 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:16 SentinelSC2 wrote: Neither does playing StarCraft but we like it anyway but sc players dont blow sihtty smelling smoke on us and theyre not even in public that oftehn lol | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
As a smoker, I understand it and it only sucks when it's the middle of the deep winter. Other than that though I don't really mind getting away from people to light up. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:07 Terrakin wrote: happens to many colleges and unis but they don't really spend the time to enforce it, but if they do enforce it go for a vapor cig, they'll even help you quit... supposedly... Using a vapour cig to quit is like giving a heroine addict more heroine, anyone with a brain knows that smoking is an addiction and you don't give addicts more of the thing they are trying to quit. Instead of being hooked on cigarettes you just become hooked on the substitute. People who use nicotine gum more often than not either start smoking again or keep using the gum forever.... people who quit do it inspite of the substitute... not because of it. I am a smoker btw, and a former coke addict..... if i had taken more coke to quit, i would still be a coke addict. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
Sonofabitch! + Show Spoiler + I'm kidding obviously, I neither live in NY nor did I just jam a cigarette butt onto my neck. | ||
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
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StrangrDangr
United States291 Posts
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
I do want to point out that the health effects of being around a smoker while outside are basically nonexistent, and even less so if it's not consistent exposure. The effects of secondhand smoke are from prolonged exposure to it, i.e. living/working with someone who smokes indoors. Just like how smoking a couple packs of cigarettes will never give you emphysema or cancer, being exposed to smoke on an infrequent basis will not hurt you at all. Also, OP, could you elaborate on the UMass ban? I don't go there, but I spend a lot of time on/around the campus. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
I personally hate smoking in public because it's MY lungs that're getting destroyed by your shitty habits. I couldn't care less if you smoked in your house, but when it's near me, it's damaging my health. Idk, you don't get to punch me in the streets without punishment. Why should you get to give me cancer? | ||
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KangaRuthless
United States304 Posts
As far as indoor smoking bans for private establishments (bars, restaurants,etc): that angers me. The pollution stays inside, and it should be the right of the establishment to decide whether or not they will allow smoking, not the government. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
Over-eating is unhealthy. Ban smokers. Ban fat people? + Show Spoiler + Again I'm being 100% serious. | ||
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Drteeth
Great Britain415 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:10 VIB wrote: I think marijuana should be legal because tabacco is worse and you don't see anyone trying to make it illegal or anything like that. Wait, what? Seriously tho, smoking is forbidden indoors for any public place in my state (bars, night clubs included). And it only had positive consequences. So I approve anything in the similar direction ^^ Banning outdoor smoking sounds like just a logical step further. I'm all for it. They won't totally ban smoking as it brings in too much revenue. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On May 24 2011 06:16 DannyJ wrote: I doubt it. It seems like one of those laws that just hope you follow it cause it's a law. Edit: actually, does the NYPD even acknowledge this law, or is it just the park services? It's just a law on the books that give police discretion to write a ticket if they don't have real crimes to solve. Oh and NYC is broke from what I hear so it is another potential source of revenue. | ||
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AutomatonOmega
United States706 Posts
Many smokers think of such laws as infringing on their personal rights, but smoking a cigarette next to me is infringing on mine. | ||
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Mahs
Netherlands171 Posts
I have to say though it turned out to be great (I'm a non-smoker but a lot of my friends are smokers). The main thing that changed is that people who need a smoke will simply go outside and have it there. Restaurants and bars anticipated by installing heating outdoors to make sure people could have a comfortable smoke outside. The first few times I went to a bar after the smoking ban I simply couldn't believe the smell on my clothes the next morning. Normally you could pick up the stench of smoke from a few feet away, but now you just smell a vague hint of that day's deodorant. You won't really be able to understand the difference until the smoking is gone, but it is really huge, everything feels so much cleaner. None of my friends are bothered by it either, as long as they have a place to light a smoke a few times a night they don't mind. That's why I believe a key part of making it a success is to stay realistic towards smokers. You can't just put an all-out block on smoking. When a place prohibits smoking it should also supply a place where smokers can go and do their thing. In railway stations for example we have certain zones where smoking is allowed. People who are bothered by the smoke can simply stay away from those zones. I think doing it like that is probably the best way to keep a healthy environment for people while respecting the needs of smokers. | ||
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