/thread. This is valid. I hate an overreaching government more than the next guy. But air pollution even on such a small, temporary scale, is still air pollution. Every man should have property rights though..

Dracolich70

Denmark3820 Posts

May 23 2011 21:32 GMT

#45

I find it "funny" people talk about the ills of second-hand smoking in cities with 1000s of cars passing in the course of time it takes to smoke a cigarette.

Laids

United Kingdom596 Posts

May 23 2011 21:32 GMT

#46

Nanny state at work, banning smoking INSIDE a building, sure. Banning OUTSIDE though is utterly moronic, more harm is done to you with toxic car fumes.

We've had the smoking ban for a while in Scotland now and they simply put up 'shelters' outside public places where you can congregate for a smoke.

Hinanawi

United States2250 Posts

May 23 2011 21:33 GMT

#47

I don't understand why 99% of smokers are assholes who just drop their cigarette butts on the ground and leave them there. I don't care a whole lot about secondhand smoke, but the littering pisses me off. Especially on beaches, that would be awful and I definitely support a smoking ban on beaches.

You could say "just ban littering cigarette butts", but let's be honest, none of you clean up after yourselves when you smoke.

Golgotha

Korea (South)8418 Posts

May 23 2011 21:34 GMT

#48

On May 24 2011 06:04 indigoawareness wrote:
They banned smoking on my campus and it made no difference. Well for the most part, smoking on campus is frowned upon more, you see less people walking and smoking. Dirty looks are more intense. Other then that it didn't mean anything, the spots where people traditionally smoked, outside the libro etc, were the same after a few months.

I was also in Paris and Amsterdam the week before they shut down indoor smoking in all of europe, that was an interesting experience. It is better that way though, indoor smoking is just disgusting and makes you feel even worse. Smoking is going to be more and more restricted but there will never a time when you can't go outside and enjoy a smoke.

TLDR I wouldn't worry about.

sorry this aint slovakia. in the US, these laws are taken seriously. For example we have cops at my university in Seattle that will hand out fines if you are caught smoking in a prohibited area.

Myrkskog

Canada481 Posts

May 23 2011 21:35 GMT

#49

On May 24 2011 06:26 DannyJ wrote:

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Fat people don't inherently pollute / litter and give the skinny person next to them cancer. They are just funny and fat.

Until a fatty has a milkshake induced heart attack while driving and plows into an elementary school field trip.

I'll take the cancer thank you very much.

Primal666

Slovenia418 Posts

May 23 2011 21:35 GMT

#50

On May 24 2011 06:29 MaxField wrote:
In a perfect world, smoking could just end, and there would be no effects, but i do not think that will ever happen. I do support this ban though.

In a perfect world people also have a thing called ''FREEDOM'', and not the tyrany of the rediculus laws enforced to us by gouvernment.

fush

Canada563 Posts

May 23 2011 21:35 GMT

#51

On May 24 2011 06:32 Dracolich70 wrote:
I find it "funny" people talk about the ills of second-hand smoking in cities with 1000s of cars passing in the course of time it takes to smoke a cigarette.

so because there's the a bigger problem we shouldn't talk about cutting off something that's entirely preventable?

good move by NYC. hopefully more places follow... it's about time something like this took off everywhere.

Hokay

United States738 Posts

May 23 2011 21:35 GMT

#52

On May 24 2011 06:21 corpuscle wrote:
I do want to point out that the health effects of being around a smoker while outside are basically nonexistent, and even less so if it's not consistent exposure.

This isn't true at all for some people with some medical conditions. I had to stop going to my local outdoor fighting game tournament because of all the second hand smoke outside. It would slowly trigger my asthma and affect my play, breathing and concentration.

Medrea

10003 Posts

May 23 2011 21:36 GMT

#53

On May 24 2011 06:22 Mortal wrote:
Smoking is unhealthy.
Over-eating is unhealthy.

Ban smokers.
Ban fat people?

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Again I'm being 100% serious.

Second hand fatness doesnt cause 50k deaths a year.

NIJ

1012 Posts

May 23 2011 21:36 GMT

#54

Ex smoker. I like. It. I always found ppl smoking in public places rude. I did it too but i tried to not be dickwad about it by blowing smoke next to someone either.

That and smoking in front of children. My fucking pet peeves. I know some of my friends are too fucking lazy to walk a few paces away from theor kids (preferably out of sight). I have the urge to take their ciggies and put it out on their eye if i see that lol.

fabiano

Brazil4644 Posts

May 23 2011 21:36 GMT

#55

Just a tip to the smokers out there: you probably stink, even after you are done smoking.

Seriously, whenever some smoker gets close I smell that cigarette stink and wonder why in the hell would one like that.

I don't know how it is there in the USA, but here where I live the smokers throw away the cigarette on the ground like they dont give a shit if they will pollute the city at all, dumb bastards, and they think they look cool haha.

I certainly would support the ban of smoking here, I think they did the right thing.

relyt

United States1073 Posts

May 23 2011 21:36 GMT

#56

I'm a smoker and I think this is a great plan. I mostly smoke at my own place, in my own car, and at smoke spots anyway. I will admit that sometimes I do smoke in some public areas, but only when there is nobody around and I always take my cigarette butt with me. I think people should be respectful towards others, and since smoking is a hazardous activity, I can understand why people don't want to be exposed to it.

blahman3344

United States2015 Posts

May 23 2011 21:36 GMT

#57

I'm a bit curious to see how they would go about enforcing this. Though it may not seem like much, the areas mentioned would require a lot of people to cover, and I'm sure that at least a few people will be able to fly under the radar every now and then.
Though I have to admit, I like the intent behind this. It's a decent attempt to reduce second-hand smoke, at the very least.

Fontong

United States6454 Posts

May 23 2011 21:37 GMT

#58

I would rather they ban smoking universally, but the more bans the better. I don't think smoking is beneficial to anyone, unless you count pocket lining. It's ridiculous that I have to breathe that stuff in when I walk around.

L3g3nd_

New Zealand10461 Posts

May 23 2011 21:37 GMT

#59

this is great news! cant wait till smoking just doesnt exist anymore

fush

Canada563 Posts

May 23 2011 21:37 GMT

#60

[QUOTE]On May 24 2011 06:35 Primal666 wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 24 2011 06:29 MaxField wrote:
In a perfect world, smoking could just end, and there would be no effects, but i do not think that will ever happen. I do support this ban though.[/Q]
In a perfect world people also have a thing called ''FREEDOM'', and not the tyrany of the rediculus laws enforced to us by gouvernment.[/QUOTE]

throwing the freedom word around... hilarious. let's just rip all fucking laws apart and see how anarchy works.

they're banning a harmful drug from being used and spread in public. just like how they "tyrannically" enforce the quality of your food or the medicine on your pharmacy counters. how about you make an argument for those guys?