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[Q] E-sportsbar in Stockholm.

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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 16:18:25
May 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#1
Hello fello Liquiders!

So i've been thinking lately about starting up an e-sportsbar in Stockholm or possibly just approaching an already existing bar host sort of a theme-night with e-sports of all sorts (i'm thinking cs, HoN and ofcourse SC2) and i'm checking TL to see if there's actually demand for something like this.

If you have some thoughts on the matter or demands for it to be a success, feel free to share!

Poll: Would you go to an E-sports bar if there was one in Stockholm?

I would love to go to an E-Sportsbar! (967)
 
88%

I'd love to go to an Esportsbar, but i'm not 18. (61)
 
6%

I would go to an E-sportthemed night if its once a week. (42)
 
4%

E-sportsbar? I want to watch E-sports alone at home rather than at a bar. (27)
 
2%

1097 total votes

Your vote: Would you go to an E-sports bar if there was one in Stockholm?

(Vote): I would love to go to an E-Sportsbar!
(Vote): I would go to an E-sportthemed night if its once a week.
(Vote): E-sportsbar? I want to watch E-sports alone at home rather than at a bar.
(Vote): I'd love to go to an Esportsbar, but i'm not 18.



Edit:

Will hopefully *fingers crossed* rent a bar for the MLG Columbus Semifinal + Finals on the MLG sunday and just thought i'd throw up another poll to see how many will come.

To keep this a bit more under control I ask you not to vote if you're not from sweden.

So for the swedes!


Poll: Do you want to come watch the MLG with likeminded people at a bar?

Yes (126)
 
94%

Maybe (5)
 
4%

No (3)
 
2%

134 total votes

Your vote: Do you want to come watch the MLG with likeminded people at a bar?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Maybe



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AntiSleep
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 17:55:20
May 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#2
that sounds like a interesting idea, but i think once a week at most, unless it was also a cybercafe too? then atleast you will always have people hanging around and drinking.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44320 Posts
May 12 2011 17:56 GMT
#3
I think that concept is awesome, and I'd glady go if I didn't live in the United States.
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Dee-Kej
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 18:05:01
May 12 2011 17:58 GMT
#4
Noooooo, you stole my idea! (that wouldn't have been implemented in years)

I would so go. O_O And I can, since I live in Stockholm. Woohoo!

Edit: I'd even lend a hand making it possible if I could (in terms of manpower)
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 12 2011 18:00 GMT
#5
That sounds like a really interesting concept. I don't live in sweden, but if there was a club near my place that specialized in that clientele I would definatly show up from time to time

I'm not entirely convinced that there is a large market for that kind of thing though. But then again there is probably a bigger market for that kind of thing in Stockholm then where I live in downtown Detroit XD
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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
May 12 2011 18:00 GMT
#6
I would travel just to go to that The details of how to implement such things seem a bit tricky though ( for a pure e-sport bar), best of luck and hope you succeed!
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Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
May 12 2011 18:01 GMT
#7
I clicked wrong option i was gunna go for "I would love to go to an E-Sportsbar!" but went for "I'd love to go to an Esportsbar, but i'm not 18."

Would be awesome, if its possible it would be nice if u could watch GSL and maybe NASL there aswell, times would be far from optimal tho. Also show some online weekly leagues. Maybe invite the progamers currentley in Stockholm!
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 12 2011 18:02 GMT
#8
Is this a drinking bar?

If so yes and see you in Sweden when it opens
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
May 12 2011 18:03 GMT
#9
Huh Oh, this is really a great idea. I believe you will need to have a pcbang during the day and open the bar part at something like 7 or 8pm. this way you could have the people hanging at the pcbang take a drink and watch some matches.
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futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
May 12 2011 18:05 GMT
#10
damn! if there was a e-sport bar at my city, this would be the place I'd spent my evenings at!
great idea, hope it works out (financially).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 12 2011 18:06 GMT
#11
I don't drink, but I always loved social gathering places to watch sports, I just don't like sports besides Football, so this would work.
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JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
May 12 2011 18:08 GMT
#12
I'm in Canada so it's irrelevant, but in a big enough city with enough gamers ( from what I read there is a ton in Stockholm ) this would be a good idea to try out if you could do it for cheap enough. I think you would need to have it serve as a PC bang during the days so people under 18 can get in and play and then after 9 PM 18 + and serve alcohol and broadcast matches.
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Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
May 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#13
I think its a great idea and it can be succesful, its a matter of where do you set it up to reach your target group. And of course you need to promote it so that you get some guests
Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
May 12 2011 18:15 GMT
#14
I seriously doubt you can dedicate an entire bar to E-sports, not yet anyway. However, having theme-nights with e-sports would be awesome, and would definitely draw quite a crowd if decently advertised. I hope this idea becomes more than just an idea, seeing as I live in Stockholm. GL!
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
May 12 2011 18:15 GMT
#15
If there was one nearby me, in US, I'd go there all the time! Probably way more realistic in the esports countries in Europe like Netherlands/Sweden, though. A nerd can only dream....
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
May 12 2011 18:16 GMT
#16
If I ever visit Stockholm I will be sure to visit your E-sports bar if it is ever constructed, I really hope your idea works. Check out the Mana bar in Australia, its a similar concept that has worked out really well.
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fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
May 12 2011 18:17 GMT
#17
Sounds awesome... Going to sweden for a week in august, and if this is open by then I'll wanna go any chance I get
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 12 2011 18:31 GMT
#18
Thanks for the feedback guys!

I've been thinking about the internetcafé side of things aswell, but computers take a lot of room, they heat up the room and it might be a serious firehazard to have a bunch of computers near intoxicated gamers. But its definetly worth thinking of a way around all that!

What I thought about was just having some sort of collaboration with Inferno Online and having a reduced prices for beer in return for a free hour of gaming at their place or something like that.

I'll probably start looking at bars for a themenight tomorrow and see if there's any barowners that might be interrested in something like this, I hope that there's a few openminded swedes left in the restaurant business!

You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
[sPoOn]
Profile Joined April 2011
United States29 Posts
May 12 2011 18:33 GMT
#19
On May 13 2011 03:15 Alejandrisha wrote:
If there was one nearby me, in US, I'd go there all the time! Probably way more realistic in the esports countries in Europe like Netherlands/Sweden, though. A nerd can only dream....

where in the states do u live? i'm thinking of opening one in NY, seeing all the chit-chat going on about TSL3 final and after party, would be good to do. But it needs to have enough option to keep it interesting. besides, most of the clientele is -21 which is drinking age here so it' gets more complicated.
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JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
May 12 2011 18:34 GMT
#20
I would love going to an e-sport bar. Please keep us updated if it ever comes to life !
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Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 18:38:08
May 12 2011 18:37 GMT
#21
K, you get this going and test the waters, when I finish my degree I'm definitely going to try something like this if it is sustainable.
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Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
May 12 2011 18:37 GMT
#22
Asking on an e-sports forum about opening an e-sports bar... This is the most unrepresentative survey one can conduct -.-"

If you do open it, pics please! Share some TL love to the real world =)
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gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
May 12 2011 18:38 GMT
#23
Sounds like a terrible and great idea. I probably wouldn't go, but I know people who might.
drdreggor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden207 Posts
May 12 2011 18:38 GMT
#24
NIce initative! I think though that having a fulltime e-sportsbar might be too limiting in which people it would attract, but a theme night once a week would be awesome!
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alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
May 12 2011 18:38 GMT
#25
Something in the style of Mana Bar would be awesome. Not necessarily e-sports only, but appealing to a wider range of gaming-related interests.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 18:44:29
May 12 2011 18:43 GMT
#26
Lol.... I was literally just thinking that an esports bar would be an awesome idea..... shame i live in the UK.....

I have plans to open a Comic Book store with a LAN center inside, perhaps if that is successful I will be able to buy a pub to convert into an sports bar with an esports night.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 12 2011 18:45 GMT
#27
On May 13 2011 03:37 Vinnesta wrote:
Asking on an e-sports forum about opening an e-sports bar... This is the most unrepresentative survey one can conduct -.-"

If you do open it, pics please! Share some TL love to the real world =)


I know its not the best forum to ask this question, but I want to attract gamers and this is really the best place to do that.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
wakefield
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
May 12 2011 18:46 GMT
#28
it would be a good idea, but broadcasting what you show would be a tough choice since not many people play/watch a variety of games competitively. just look at things on youtube such as the gamestation (although this isnt its fundamental flaw..), the variety of games just doesnt really work. Machinima is pretty successful but its still found that its had to divide the channel up to keep viewers interested.

for example, one huge sc2 tournament is on, but on the same night a huge LoL tournament is on, unless you have a massive bar/multiple rooms then there may be conflict. but if this idea works it would be AWESOME
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 12 2011 18:53 GMT
#29
On May 13 2011 03:46 wakefield wrote:
it would be a good idea, but broadcasting what you show would be a tough choice since not many people play/watch a variety of games competitively. just look at things on youtube such as the gamestation (although this isnt its fundamental flaw..), the variety of games just doesnt really work. Machinima is pretty successful but its still found that its had to divide the channel up to keep viewers interested.

for example, one huge sc2 tournament is on, but on the same night a huge LoL tournament is on, unless you have a massive bar/multiple rooms then there may be conflict. but if this idea works it would be AWESOME


That is a very valid point, need to think about that when I check out bars tomorrow!
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
May 12 2011 18:58 GMT
#30
On May 13 2011 03:46 wakefield wrote:
it would be a good idea, but broadcasting what you show would be a tough choice since not many people play/watch a variety of games competitively. just look at things on youtube such as the gamestation (although this isnt its fundamental flaw..), the variety of games just doesnt really work. Machinima is pretty successful but its still found that its had to divide the channel up to keep viewers interested.

for example, one huge sc2 tournament is on, but on the same night a huge LoL tournament is on, unless you have a massive bar/multiple rooms then there may be conflict. but if this idea works it would be AWESOME

Well that's does not have to be a problem. In sport bars they usually have quite a few tv's on showing different sports and events.
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Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
May 12 2011 18:58 GMT
#31
If you can read up different tournaments you could always put up posters or something like "Friday: Starcraft II Action" and so forth
cichli
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden84 Posts
May 12 2011 18:59 GMT
#32
I live in Uppsala, but this would easily be worth the train ride every once in a while!
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 12 2011 19:11 GMT
#33
I would never go to this kind of bar. Just not for me.
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Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
May 12 2011 19:17 GMT
#34
Id visit it if i went to sthml, unless it sucked...
fjjotizz
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden153 Posts
May 12 2011 20:48 GMT
#35
Definately man, if you combine it with a good location and cheap booze, you will attract people who might not be as interested in E-sports as TLers. Perhaps they might develop an interest though? Like some note saying: Ask the bartender if you want to have the game explained to you! I guess not every1 in the staff would know of the game, but atleast you would!
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TreDawg
Profile Joined January 2011
41 Posts
May 12 2011 20:56 GMT
#36
The only thing that makes e-sports better is alcohol! I'm 100% in favor of this idea!
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 12 2011 21:02 GMT
#37
I could consider going for special events like streamed finals and such.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
May 12 2011 21:04 GMT
#38
If there was one near me I would definitely go, and I would go quite often.
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jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
May 12 2011 21:07 GMT
#39
that'd be a dream come true
Western
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden28 Posts
May 12 2011 21:08 GMT
#40
Maby you could have just like 2, 4 or 6 computers, were people could test their skills against each other, like in a real bar you've got the pool table, the dart board and such.
but it sounds like a really great idea and i would love to visit if you decide to launch
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Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
May 12 2011 21:09 GMT
#41
Only if it had SCBW as well. And cheap beer.
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Wihl
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden472 Posts
May 12 2011 21:24 GMT
#42
It could end in awesomeness or pure shit to be honest. I think making it into a gaming bar with esport events would be far more successful.

Having 8-bit pearl boards of things like Megaman, Mario and Zelda would definately look good on the walls. Add some arcades that people can play, invite bitpop bands to perform on stage and put some good wifi in there as well. You could also have an in-house high score list above the bar, let anyone who beats it get 3 free drinks or something. There's a lot of stuff that could be done that would be gaming related but also not label the bar as a place for massive geeks.

Then have live E-Sports shown during important events such as league finals and so on.

I honestly think that such an approach would be able to bring in a lot more people, not just those that are already *really* into games. I fear some people might mistake it for a gay bar when they look in through the window otherwise

But nevertheless, whatever you end up doing, I'll definately come and take a look if you get it going.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
May 12 2011 21:27 GMT
#43
This idea is the best thing I've heard this week. I'd go... 100000000000 times per week.
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
May 12 2011 21:28 GMT
#44
I think the biggest flaw in this idea is that a large % of the market you aim to hit, will not be able to buy alcohol. Your best bet is to ask a student bar in a university to setup nights where you can broadcast some games. Live if possible, or recorded. Getting it up on a big projector and stuff, and doing special drink promo's related to the game could work.
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Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 21:31:19
May 12 2011 21:30 GMT
#45
I'd go there, I'd rather go to an E-sports bar in Amsterdam that sold cannabis and allowed smoking along with alcohol though, someone should make one of those :D
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 12 2011 21:35 GMT
#46
If something like this happened in Canada I'd go at least once a week.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#47
I'd definitely frequent it.
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WarheadsByLink
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom75 Posts
May 12 2011 21:44 GMT
#48
On May 13 2011 03:43 emythrel wrote:
Lol.... I was literally just thinking that an esports bar would be an awesome idea..... shame i live in the UK.....

I have plans to open a Comic Book store with a LAN center inside, perhaps if that is successful I will be able to buy a pub to convert into an sports bar with an esports night.


Do it and you'd have at least 1 customer =p
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 12 2011 22:40 GMT
#49
On May 13 2011 06:24 Wihl wrote:
It could end in awesomeness or pure shit to be honest. I think making it into a gaming bar with esport events would be far more successful.

Having 8-bit pearl boards of things like Megaman, Mario and Zelda would definately look good on the walls. Add some arcades that people can play, invite bitpop bands to perform on stage and put some good wifi in there as well. You could also have an in-house high score list above the bar, let anyone who beats it get 3 free drinks or something. There's a lot of stuff that could be done that would be gaming related but also not label the bar as a place for massive geeks.

Then have live E-Sports shown during important events such as league finals and so on.

I honestly think that such an approach would be able to bring in a lot more people, not just those that are already *really* into games. I fear some people might mistake it for a gay bar when they look in through the window otherwise

But nevertheless, whatever you end up doing, I'll definately come and take a look if you get it going.


Some of these suggestions are pure gold to be honest and i'll consider them closely, only thing is it requires quite alot of cash to setup the place with an entire gaming design. If I do a "testing" with an e-sportnight and its a success i'll definitely look into getting some investors and try for a full-on gaming bar!

On May 13 2011 06:28 Chewits wrote:
I think the biggest flaw in this idea is that a large % of the market you aim to hit, will not be able to buy alcohol. Your best bet is to ask a student bar in a university to setup nights where you can broadcast some games. Live if possible, or recorded. Getting it up on a big projector and stuff, and doing special drink promo's related to the game could work.


This was what held me back in the start aswell, but then I realised that i've been playing games for 14 years now and during 8 of those i've followed some sort of proscene without being even remotely pro and i'm fairly sure i'm the only one.

Of course the (soon to come) e-sport boom in Sweden has influenced me some aswell ;P
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
May 12 2011 23:11 GMT
#50
arent' cybercafes that sellfoood and drink essentially the same thing?
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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 13 2011 08:42 GMT
#51
On May 13 2011 08:11 Phanekim wrote:
arent' cybercafes that sellfoood and drink essentially the same thing?

No, a cybercafe is centered around playing and using computers, this would be centered around watching e-sports, drinking Beer and meeting likeminded people.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
May 13 2011 08:48 GMT
#52
Open the bar, I will take the ferry from Helsinki especially to come!
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Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
May 13 2011 08:52 GMT
#53
Nooo I just moved away from Stockholm, have to get back now ;_;
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Jacko11
Profile Joined November 2010
China146 Posts
May 13 2011 08:56 GMT
#54
This is the greatest idea EVER!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 13 2011 08:57 GMT
#55
Much better than meeting chicks. I can watch Flash vs. Jaedong with B+ ICCUP diehards that know what Flash should've done instead
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
May 13 2011 09:02 GMT
#56
This is a pretty good idea, a lan-cafe + bar.

Get some licenses to show e-sports events as well. I think you definitely need the lan cafe element though, not sure just a bar+e-sports targets enough of a demographic to draw them out to drink on a regular basis.
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entocheets
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia367 Posts
May 13 2011 09:16 GMT
#57
Having an e-sports themed night at a local bar sounds like a good way to go about it and test the waters. If you wanted to set up an e-sports drinking lounge, I think it would be hard to pull off. Alcohol around a bunch of computers..

It's been mentioned before but the Mana Bar in Sydney has managed to pull off something like your idea - they are more of a drinking lounge with a whole bunch of consoles available to be played, games available to buy at the bar and video game events are often held there by game devs, chiptune performances etc. Definately shoot them an e-mail if you're interested in starting up something though, I think they'd have some good stuff to share.
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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 13 2011 09:17 GMT
#58
On May 13 2011 18:02 echO [W] wrote:
This is a pretty good idea, a lan-cafe + bar.

Get some licenses to show e-sports events as well. I think you definitely need the lan cafe element though, not sure just a bar+e-sports targets enough of a demographic to draw them out to drink on a regular basis.


This is what I'm worried about aswell which makes me consider the esport over an all-in e-sportbar at the moment.
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carebear91
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore236 Posts
May 13 2011 09:19 GMT
#59
sounds good.. i'd go if you open one in singapore :D
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 09:29:30
May 13 2011 09:21 GMT
#60
I like the idea and i would visit if i would be in the city.

I have some reservations that i am sure you allready tought about.

- most sports bars are packed during the live games, being in CET I would say that is a problem.
- only nasl has the quality to put on big screens
- I dunno how you will be able to get all the licences from differnt content providers

Regards and best of luck with the project

edit:


some nice things you could do:
Get some handsome nerd t-shirts, and other nerd wear and sell them at the bar.
Give free (limited) wifi to consumers and give a key when they ask for it. (i dont think you want your bar to turn in to the download center of stockholm)
Old school arcade stuff would do pretty well i would say (mortal kombat, street fighter, or in my case, sun set riders)
Rent out lockers were people can put in computers (lets face it you are targetting the nerd crowd)
Implement power outlets at each table.
Put people in the bar that will understand nerd chat ;-)
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
May 13 2011 09:22 GMT
#61
Dammnit this is my idea XD i am opening one in melbourne soon
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 13 2011 09:23 GMT
#62
You could do something like have it be a Lan cafe during the day and an e-sports bar in the evenings. You'd need a good way to reorganize shit every day though. Just remember the challenge is what makes it all worth while.
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Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
May 13 2011 09:35 GMT
#63
I would love this idea, but only once a week. That way most of the people who like esports will be conregating on that spot at that time, rather than spread out throughout the week.
Frostmister
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden77 Posts
May 13 2011 09:37 GMT
#64
Sounds like a great plan now that E-sport have come so far in Sweden, I'd totally wanna visit it if I'm ever in Stockholm.

I really hope you succed because its quite unique and could go far ^^
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
May 13 2011 09:37 GMT
#65
This sounds like an excellent way to lose money, but go for it if you don't care.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
May 13 2011 09:38 GMT
#66
Sounds like a great idea! Im just worried if its going to be viable economically? Ofcourse its going to be crouded for a TSL final but what about the other days?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 13 2011 09:41 GMT
#67
If you can accomidate BW then I'd move in to that Bar.
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DetrA
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
May 13 2011 09:46 GMT
#68
If you do this I swear to you I will move to Europe and spend all my college money in your bar.
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xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
May 13 2011 09:47 GMT
#69
I've dreamt of having a place like this to go to so I would be very interested!

Only problem is all the delays and crappy streams and stuff like that, wonder if e-sports is ready for this. Ofc, waiting for the stream to come back is easier if you have beer
Liquid`TLO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany767 Posts
May 13 2011 09:49 GMT
#70
If you do that, then my city of choice just became even more awesome!
I was having the same idea for a long time but not really the time to make it real

go for it!!
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 13 2011 11:10 GMT
#71
holy shit thats awesome, would be amazing if they started popping up, if there were some in NZ i would 100% go
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 13 2011 11:17 GMT
#72
I would definitely fly in to Stockholm to do a bunch of things amongst which visit your bar.
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ohGr
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 11:26:29
May 13 2011 11:25 GMT
#73
While it's a swell idea, I can see a few problems that might arise.
  • Awkward times for tournaments (due to different timezones) considering you need special permits to stay open after certain hours (unless it's a private establishment).
  • Probably difficult to just ask O'Learys (or any other sportsbar for that matter)to ask if you can use their place for such a thing because tournaments might clash together with other sport events - thus you need your own local and that might cost quite a bit, rent, staff, electricity - everything adds up.
  • Technical issues from tournaments, again causing delays - making it more annoying with opening times.


There are a few things you need to consider and take into account, but if you're serious about this you probably all ready know that.
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aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
May 13 2011 11:29 GMT
#74
i want to live in stockholm too
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 13 2011 11:33 GMT
#75
seems like a cool idea, would probably need to have it operate as a normal bar with esports nights/lan cafe as well or similar for it to be really viable. have been to kyoto lounge in manchester which is somewhat similar and has a real nice setup
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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 11:43:45
May 13 2011 11:43 GMT
#76
I think the best bet, at least at a start, would be to do it in an existing student bar at one of the universities. You'd have about the right age and interest there to make it work a few days a week perhaps. Would be great to see a unique bar for it but I think there is a long way to go for that. Good luck though, we all might be surprised.
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
May 13 2011 12:00 GMT
#77
I didn't vote as there wasn't an option I felt summed up my feelings. I'd maybe attend an E_sportsbar once every so often in the atmosphere was nice, but it almost certainly wouldn't be on a weekly or even bi weekly timeframe. That and I couldn't get to Stockholm, lol.
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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 13 2011 15:58 GMT
#78
On May 13 2011 18:49 Liquid`TLO wrote:
If you do that, then my city of choice just became even more awesome!
I was having the same idea for a long time but not really the time to make it real

go for it!!


Thanks for the support!

On May 13 2011 20:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I would definitely fly in to Stockholm to do a bunch of things amongst which visit your bar.


Awesome!

And you who already is in the esportsbusiness, do you know what kind of permits one would need from say NASL, GSL etc to be able to air their shows in a public place?

On May 13 2011 20:25 ohGr wrote:
While it's a swell idea, I can see a few problems that might arise.
  • Awkward times for tournaments (due to different timezones) considering you need special permits to stay open after certain hours (unless it's a private establishment).
  • Probably difficult to just ask O'Learys (or any other sportsbar for that matter)to ask if you can use their place for such a thing because tournaments might clash together with other sport events - thus you need your own local and that might cost quite a bit, rent, staff, electricity - everything adds up.
  • Technical issues from tournaments, again causing delays - making it more annoying with opening times.


There are a few things you need to consider and take into account, but if you're serious about this you probably all ready know that.


Asking o'learys is pretty much out of the question because hosting something like this would seriously hurt their stubbornminded regular clientele.

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 13 2011 16:01 GMT
#79
Will you also try to broadcast SPL,OSL and MSL or will it strictly be SC2?
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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 13 2011 16:05 GMT
#80
On May 14 2011 01:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Will you also try to broadcast SPL,OSL and MSL or will it strictly be SC2?


Depends on the crowd really, i'm not sure there's a huge request for Proffesional Brood War in Sweden but if there's a final and people want to see it i'd defininetly consider it!

I also plan to air big Heroes of Newerth matches aswell as League of Legends and the occasional CS 1.6 Final.
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Goatman61
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway17 Posts
May 13 2011 16:10 GMT
#81
I would go if i could. but i don't live in Stockholm so... but if there was something that awesome there i want to live there.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
May 13 2011 16:18 GMT
#82
http://www.kyotolounge.com/

Something along the lines of this?

Read about it a week or so ago on Rockpapershotgun, a unique idea indeed. I wonder how much money there actually is in a genuine cross between bar and internet cafe with a high-quality feel to it.

Most internet cafe's in Holland are populated with:

1) People that can't afford internet
2) People with hair to their knees

They are also almost always filled to the brim with a stench of weed. Not exactly the kind of place where i would like to be seen, let alone spend an entire night.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 16:24:46
May 13 2011 16:21 GMT
#83
I'd check it out for sure. I love e-sports and alcohol.

If such a place existed, there's no way in hell I'd ever watch a MSL/OSL/GSL/TSL final at home by myself again.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 13 2011 16:46 GMT
#84
On May 14 2011 01:18 zalz wrote:
http://www.kyotolounge.com/

Something along the lines of this?

Read about it a week or so ago on Rockpapershotgun, a unique idea indeed. I wonder how much money there actually is in a genuine cross between bar and internet cafe with a high-quality feel to it.

Most internet cafe's in Holland are populated with:

1) People that can't afford internet
2) People with hair to their knees

They are also almost always filled to the brim with a stench of weed. Not exactly the kind of place where i would like to be seen, let alone spend an entire night.


Not sure, but I'm not too convinced about that concept, that just feels like a luxury pc cafe rather than sportsbar that airs the finest e-sports around.

The idea of having computers around is tempting but It's not what I'm looking at right now.
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NorthernRiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 16:51:53
May 13 2011 16:47 GMT
#85
To be honest I probably wouldn't go. The people I go to bars with don't like eSports (probably haven't even heard of it) and I'm sure there are others with friends like me. Also, a lot of people following eSports aren't legally allowed to drink. I'm sure there will be bars like this in the future but maybe it's too narrow to make profit of it today.

It's a cool concept though so good luck if you choose to pursue the idea!
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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 13 2011 16:49 GMT
#86
On May 14 2011 01:21 hifriend wrote:
I'd check it out for sure. I love e-sports and alcohol.

If such a place existed, there's no way in hell I'd ever watch a MSL/OSL/GSL/TSL final at home by myself again.


Doing liveshows of Korean finals might be hard due to the difference in timezones, would you still go if the final was aired at the bar a few hours after it was played?
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HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
May 13 2011 16:50 GMT
#87
On May 14 2011 01:47 NorthernRiver wrote:
To be honest I probably wouldn't go. The people I go to bars with don't like eSports (probably haven't even heard of it) and I'm sure there are others with friends like me. Also, a lot of people following eSports aren't legally allowed to drink. I'm sure there will be bars like this in the future but maybe it's too narrow to make profit of it today.

It's a cool concept though so good luck if you choose to pursue the idea!

I agree, brilliant idea, but from a business stand point it might be too hard to stay profitable.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 13 2011 17:28 GMT
#88
On May 14 2011 01:49 Hasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 01:21 hifriend wrote:
I'd check it out for sure. I love e-sports and alcohol.

If such a place existed, there's no way in hell I'd ever watch a MSL/OSL/GSL/TSL final at home by myself again.


Doing liveshows of Korean finals might be hard due to the difference in timezones, would you still go if the final was aired at the bar a few hours after it was played?

Yeah I considered that and I definitely would.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 13 2011 17:35 GMT
#89
On May 14 2011 01:46 Hasse wrote:

Not sure, but I'm not too convinced about that concept, that just feels like a luxury pc cafe rather than sportsbar that airs the finest e-sports around.


the actual pcbang area is only a small part of that place, there's plenty of actual bar space to drink where they also have 360/ps3 and can show sports events etc
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Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
May 13 2011 17:48 GMT
#90
On May 14 2011 01:47 NorthernRiver wrote:
To be honest I probably wouldn't go. The people I go to bars with don't like eSports (probably haven't even heard of it) and I'm sure there are others with friends like me. Also, a lot of people following eSports aren't legally allowed to drink. I'm sure there will be bars like this in the future but maybe it's too narrow to make profit of it today.

It's a cool concept though so good luck if you choose to pursue the idea!

I am sure most people passionate about esports would either have at least 1 friend interested in e-sports, or be able\willing to go to it alone to meet likeminded people. Going to a supposed e-sports bar would not be your average going out drinking experience I guess.

I definitely think there could be a market for something like this in the bigger cities. Though making it an all out e-sportsbar might be a bit too hopeful. But just starting more of a "regular" type bar, where people can come and have a drink and hang out, and giving it a gaming theme (not going as far as mana bar in my opinion) Just having like some Arcade Machines and some Gaming decorations but still making it somewhat of a regular bar. Then having a weekly esports night (Also adding specific events such as Finals etc.) Could also have various other 'themed'/'event' nights, running game tournaments (Thinking more silly\console game tournaments than E-sports tournaments though) etc.

This would accomplish a couple of things, first of all not going full gaming would not alienate the rest of the world. If you make it a fullblown esports bar/gaming bar a lot of people will not be that interested in going there, and even e-sports enthusiasts might be hesitant to bring their friends there. So you can both keep a somewhat "regular"clientelle and possibly convert some of them to esports fans through the esports nights, while still not relying 100% on the esports crowd to keep the place running. Secondly, without going too far in my generalizations, I am sure there are tons of "e-sports" enthusiasts, who do not go out to bars that much, but who would enjoy going to bars every now and then (even on non e-sports nights) if it was in an environment they knew and were comfortable in, and had people they knew and a lot of people whom with they shared the same interest of gaming\e-sports. And Although I have little experience with running a bar myself, I am under the impression that a lot of bars rely very heavily on the return customers who hang out at their favorite watering hole. I am sure if done right that a gaming bar could get a lot of veteran customers as there are a lot of gamers in most cities who are ripe for the picking in being your return customers.

I don't think the age thing is as big of a deal, tons of people above 18 (drinking age in sweden) are interested in e-sports, and you could always allow younger people in for events I guess, and have some sort of bracelet system for alcoholic drinks. That being said its not like younger people do not have fake ID's and/or borrow ID's =p

One of the bigger drawbacks as mentioned is the tournament times, GSL and TSL And other big tournaments are not that often run in prime bar time, so I am guessing either this needs to be fixed by the tournament organizers in a way that NASL Has done, or just having taping them and having recast of them yourself ( I am unsure of how hard it would be to be allowed to do that. For tournaments like TSL it would probably be a breeze for obvious reasons, no idea with GSL though.)

For questions about licensing I would atleast start out by just mailing the respective companies and tell them about your idea and ask what you would\would not be allowed to use. I know some companies (for example blizzard) are often very supportive of their community and do not mind people using their work as long as it is not done in the spirit of directly profiting from it.

Why are my posts always so long : (
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pluu.mooh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Austria142 Posts
May 14 2011 07:32 GMT
#91
Why are my posts always so long : (


Because there is brain involved! Good analysis of yours
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
May 14 2011 07:38 GMT
#92
Damn this is an awesome idea! Bring it man, ill stop by most nights if you do!
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frogurt
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia907 Posts
May 14 2011 07:52 GMT
#93
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In Australia, Brisbane has the mana bar. It's a bar with video game themed drinks, Consoles with fun games (nooby) and trivia nights with Zero Punctuation's Yahtzee.

It's not geared toward e-sports but thats because Australia is virtually an e-sports wasteland.

A similar idea.
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fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
May 14 2011 08:40 GMT
#94
Sound awsome man, I'm probably moving to stockholm to study in august and I'll definetly drop by!
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
May 14 2011 08:44 GMT
#95
You need to let us know if this happens!
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Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 14 2011 09:00 GMT
#96
On May 14 2011 02:48 Earll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 01:47 NorthernRiver wrote:
To be honest I probably wouldn't go. The people I go to bars with don't like eSports (probably haven't even heard of it) and I'm sure there are others with friends like me. Also, a lot of people following eSports aren't legally allowed to drink. I'm sure there will be bars like this in the future but maybe it's too narrow to make profit of it today.

It's a cool concept though so good luck if you choose to pursue the idea!

I am sure most people passionate about esports would either have at least 1 friend interested in e-sports, or be able\willing to go to it alone to meet likeminded people. Going to a supposed e-sports bar would not be your average going out drinking experience I guess.

I definitely think there could be a market for something like this in the bigger cities. Though making it an all out e-sportsbar might be a bit too hopeful. But just starting more of a "regular" type bar, where people can come and have a drink and hang out, and giving it a gaming theme (not going as far as mana bar in my opinion) Just having like some Arcade Machines and some Gaming decorations but still making it somewhat of a regular bar. Then having a weekly esports night (Also adding specific events such as Finals etc.) Could also have various other 'themed'/'event' nights, running game tournaments (Thinking more silly\console game tournaments than E-sports tournaments though) etc.

This would accomplish a couple of things, first of all not going full gaming would not alienate the rest of the world. If you make it a fullblown esports bar/gaming bar a lot of people will not be that interested in going there, and even e-sports enthusiasts might be hesitant to bring their friends there. So you can both keep a somewhat "regular"clientelle and possibly convert some of them to esports fans through the esports nights, while still not relying 100% on the esports crowd to keep the place running. Secondly, without going too far in my generalizations, I am sure there are tons of "e-sports" enthusiasts, who do not go out to bars that much, but who would enjoy going to bars every now and then (even on non e-sports nights) if it was in an environment they knew and were comfortable in, and had people they knew and a lot of people whom with they shared the same interest of gaming\e-sports. And Although I have little experience with running a bar myself, I am under the impression that a lot of bars rely very heavily on the return customers who hang out at their favorite watering hole. I am sure if done right that a gaming bar could get a lot of veteran customers as there are a lot of gamers in most cities who are ripe for the picking in being your return customers.

I don't think the age thing is as big of a deal, tons of people above 18 (drinking age in sweden) are interested in e-sports, and you could always allow younger people in for events I guess, and have some sort of bracelet system for alcoholic drinks. That being said its not like younger people do not have fake ID's and/or borrow ID's =p

One of the bigger drawbacks as mentioned is the tournament times, GSL and TSL And other big tournaments are not that often run in prime bar time, so I am guessing either this needs to be fixed by the tournament organizers in a way that NASL Has done, or just having taping them and having recast of them yourself ( I am unsure of how hard it would be to be allowed to do that. For tournaments like TSL it would probably be a breeze for obvious reasons, no idea with GSL though.)

For questions about licensing I would atleast start out by just mailing the respective companies and tell them about your idea and ask what you would\would not be allowed to use. I know some companies (for example blizzard) are often very supportive of their community and do not mind people using their work as long as it is not done in the spirit of directly profiting from it.

Why are my posts always so long : (


This has pretty become my idea of the place because of all the reason you mentioned.

Now that the idea is in place and quite a few people are excited I need to check with nasl,gsl etc and also get some funding since I don't have the ~2 million SEK that it'll take to start this up.
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Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
May 14 2011 09:56 GMT
#97
I would get out of my house and take a train from Copenhagen to Stockholm right now :3
ULTRAmarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden47 Posts
May 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#98
since i consider stockholm to be swedens asshole i never go there and i probably wouldn't travel several hours for a bar night either

the idea is good though, i already spend my weekends drinking beer and watching starcraft.
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CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
May 14 2011 10:39 GMT
#99
best of luck with that. it sounds awesome.
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
May 14 2011 11:13 GMT
#100
I mean there's no real reason to have a poll for this, of course everyone on Teamliquid is going to say "Esports bar? HELL YAHHH OMG". You should ask the local young folks around Sweden. And I agree it shouldn't be all out esports all the time, diversify it and branch out.

You'd probably have to work with just rebroadcasts so everything would be during normal bar hours. And then you have to figure that lots of people interested in esports are just going to watch the events live anyway. Something like this can be done though, and Sweden seems like an appropriate place for it...
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Jhax
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland201 Posts
May 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#101
Even as a gamer I wouldn't go to this. If I go to bar it's usually to drink and meet people who are just as drunk and you can talk shit with each other and make new friends. I've never been a big fan of watching sports in a bar takes away the fun for me if everybody is just watching tv. Then again that's just me.
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nVusPip
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom260 Posts
May 14 2011 11:31 GMT
#102
I would catch a plane to go to a bar like this :D
Tenz
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia106 Posts
May 14 2011 11:32 GMT
#103
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but there's a successful bar in Brisbane Australia, called Mana Bar (i think?) that while not E-sports orientated, it is a bar that caters to gamers, has lots of arcade machines and Xbox's etc. should have a look at some of the stuff they do, might help you with ideas. I think it's definitely a great plan, and i will be sure to visit the next time I'm in Sweden!
Musclecore
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden103 Posts
May 14 2011 11:44 GMT
#104
Had to register and de-lurk just to give my support for your idea. Living in Stockholm myself, being a solitary e-sports fan, this would be just swell! So long the booze isn't too expensive, and you can get something better than the standard pissy lagers if you want to.
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DamnTasty
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 12:20:11
May 14 2011 12:19 GMT
#105
Just a general thing, making a successful bar isn't only about what the bar stands for, but also what kind of people hang around there. Because there's casual gamers, who know what's going on the screen, and hardcore gamers who are gonna discuss the timings and mistakes made by the pro's etc. Which of the two are you going to cater to?

And something to always keep in mind with bars and disco's, is that either they're popular and you make lots of money, or they're not, and you make jack shit.

For these above reasons, the opening of the bar is what makes it, or what breaks it.



PS: But if you get one of these bars running good, everything will work out, you could open another one is another major city and build from the reputation you have from the first.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
May 17 2011 18:39 GMT
#106
On May 14 2011 21:19 DamnTasty wrote:
Just a general thing, making a successful bar isn't only about what the bar stands for, but also what kind of people hang around there. Because there's casual gamers, who know what's going on the screen, and hardcore gamers who are gonna discuss the timings and mistakes made by the pro's etc. Which of the two are you going to cater to?

I don't see how it's contradictory unless you wanted to write "casual gamers, who DON'T know"
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NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
May 17 2011 18:42 GMT
#107
there is this famous place in Stockholm called Inferno. isnt there a bar or something ?
We got something similar here in Bratislava. Its basically PC bang + bar, but there is nothing really about gaming on the bar.
But ye I would really love to drink some Steam packs in your bar GL
monkey5476
Profile Joined January 2011
United States133 Posts
May 17 2011 19:45 GMT
#108
I answered that I would love to but sadly I am an american and I don't think any are going to open up near me
DamnTasty
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands28 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 20:13:20
May 17 2011 20:11 GMT
#109
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 21:19 DamnTasty wrote:
Just a general thing, making a successful bar isn't only about what the bar stands for, but also what kind of people hang around there. Because there's casual gamers, who know what's going on the screen, and hardcore gamers who are gonna discuss the timings and mistakes made by the pro's etc. Which of the two are you going to cater to?


I don't see how it's contradictory unless you wanted to write "casual gamers, who DON'T know"


In general there's three type of people:
1 People who know it's a videogame/ or not even that
2 People who know what's going on on the screen, for example he is attacking and knowing that marines hate banelings etc.
3 People who watch the screen and are like omg sick gozo polt timing attack.

I can imagine that if you cater too much to group 3, a lot of people out of group 2 are gonna be like, yeaaaah not really that into it, but its a nice idea for a bar, leaving you with solely group 3 in your bar. And if you want to get the thing running you need to try to persuade group 1 and 2 the most, as they are the majority of the people.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
May 17 2011 22:43 GMT
#110
I don't think that any already existing bar would accept to do such thing unless you rent out the place for the duration of the event. And I don't think the market for opening up a bar yourself is big enough to justify such a big investment.

So meh, not gonna happen anytime soon.

But I'd definitely go, that's for sure. It's just not a realistic business venture imo.
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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
May 17 2011 23:07 GMT
#111
It doesn't have to be a themed night... A lot of venues are happy to put football/formula 1/whatever on a big screen if this is what a group of customers wants. The best thing to do would be to talk to the management of a venue about a specific event and make sure it doesn't clash with any other sports event. As long as enough people show up, they'll be more than happy to do it again.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
May 18 2011 22:52 GMT
#112
Oh, I live in Stockholm and I really want this so much... would be awesome to sit down and watch some GSL or MLG events while having both food and beer.
Seeing there are so many "regular" sports bars around in a city of this size surely there's a market for an ESPORTS-bar. Although it should just be SC2, I don't care about HoN, LOL, ... >_>
... OK... I do like watching a bit of CS 1.6 <_<
I'm not sure if it's been suggested before but go and do a live survey during like an event at IO that draws in e-sport-spectators and not just any gamer.
I so hope you find a good place for this. Hehe I'm just way too excited about someone actually doing something I've only gone around and been wishing for
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Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
May 19 2011 13:43 GMT
#113
I would also definitely visit whenever I'm in Stockholm. :-)
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NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
May 19 2011 13:56 GMT
#114
Awesome plan. My parents moved to Stockholm some time ago, so I can go to Sweden for free now. So if you open it, I will stop by.

Too bad beer is so expensive in Sweden or I would've had a bunch of friends who would've gladly joined me for some fun. Make a deal with the Belgo bar on (I think) Bryggargatan. Belgian beers go well with Esports.
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Teusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden30 Posts
May 19 2011 14:18 GMT
#115
Would totally go to Stockholm just for that. Let my missus roam the shops while I hang with me nerd peers!!
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Ser3nitynow
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:22:45
May 19 2011 14:21 GMT
#116
Tbh, i dont think it would be successful at all and if i wanna go out it would be to a normal bar then an E-sportsbar and i think that is the case with alot others. The idea will fail but gl tho.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
May 19 2011 14:25 GMT
#117
You can definitely have a sports bar around ESPORTS, but this shouldn't be your only defining factor. You want to attract a large demographic, which will also include your main focus of ESPORTS enthusiasts. This will allow you to stay in business.

Good food, good drinks, good atmosphere, good location, decent prices.

You also want publicity at every opportunity to let people know you exist.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Zharak
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden106 Posts
May 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#118
Living in gothenburg soon, and have several friends in stockholm that I will visit quite often, would love to give your bar a shot:D Sounds like it could turn out quite awesome!
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Kalpman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden406 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#119
I swear to god I will come down to Stockholm at the grand opening of this bar if it ever happens. And Im not even religious
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laegoose
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation325 Posts
May 19 2011 15:11 GMT
#120
Imagine starcraft-themed bar with protoss-style interier, 3 different menus: fried hydralisks, zergling legs, drone snacks; normal terran food; some acid-blue protoss coctails etc. Hell, I hope one day they will open something like this in Korea or somewhere. I will live there.
Mamonuth
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland10 Posts
May 19 2011 15:15 GMT
#121
Sounds like a reason to go on 1 of those viking line cruises Helsinki-Stockholm (although idk if the bar would be near enough but sounds cool anyway!)
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 19 2011 15:16 GMT
#122
I would!! :D
Damian
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany335 Posts
May 19 2011 15:17 GMT
#123
"We should totally open a bar!" :D
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
May 19 2011 15:19 GMT
#124
I would definitely go (every night probably lol) but I don't live in Sweden
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 19 2011 15:27 GMT
#125
Maybe just Esports nights? for special events. Interesting concept, try it and see!
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
May 19 2011 15:30 GMT
#126
Yeah boy. Right in Sthlm city and I'm down!
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
May 19 2011 15:40 GMT
#127
I am travelling europe for a year starting in september. If your bar exists I will visit stockholm for sure and pay a visit.
LEEKsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden380 Posts
May 19 2011 15:53 GMT
#128
On May 20 2011 00:40 cronican wrote:
I am travelling europe for a year starting in september. If your bar exists I will visit stockholm for sure and pay a visit.


Cool cool, you should probably consider visiting anyways, seeing as it's quite an amazing city! (A bit biased of course, but I've been to a lot of the capital/bigger cities in Europe, and Stockholm is one of the best/coolest for sure!)
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cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
May 19 2011 15:55 GMT
#129
Oh of course, sweden is on my list of places I want to see. Though I have no idea what is there. I will certainly be doing a lot of research in the coming months.
Aelip
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark321 Posts
May 19 2011 15:56 GMT
#130
On May 20 2011 00:17 Damian wrote:
"We should totally open a bar!" :D


My thought exactly. While it may seem like a good idea at first. In reality, you'll need quite alot of customers for it to go around.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 19 2011 16:08 GMT
#131
On May 20 2011 00:56 Aelip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 00:17 Damian wrote:
"We should totally open a bar!" :D


My thought exactly. While it may seem like a good idea at first. In reality, you'll need quite alot of customers for it to go around.


i'm aware of this and I really dont want to throw my money away, atleast not when we're talking about a couple of million SEK.

What i'll do is rent a place for the next major event (might be MLG Colombus semi-finals + finals) and put my money on it like that since that'll only cost me around 40 000 SEK if it totally FLOPS. It would be a great experience to have tried it out and see if its actually a valid business venture without throwing too much money away.

You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Vectoor
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden62 Posts
May 19 2011 16:18 GMT
#132
Don't live in Sthlm, but if I visit I would go there! :O
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
May 19 2011 16:26 GMT
#133
Great idea, I'd definately visit when in Stockholm.
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Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
May 19 2011 16:27 GMT
#134
Honestly, it sounds like an amazing idea but you're gonna have a skewed poll if TL is your target group for voting.

I'd say make a successful bar, and start with just doing an E-sports night, on top of like a football, soccer, whatever night as well. You want customers first and foremost and then you can start doing creative things ^_^
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 19 2011 16:48 GMT
#135
On May 20 2011 01:27 Stropheum wrote:
Honestly, it sounds like an amazing idea but you're gonna have a skewed poll if TL is your target group for voting.

I'd say make a successful bar, and start with just doing an E-sports night, on top of like a football, soccer, whatever night as well. You want customers first and foremost and then you can start doing creative things ^_^


Starting a successful bar isn't something you just start, if that was the case everyone would just open a bar, you kinda need a plan and a demographic to fit into that plan to even have a remote shot of being successful. Unless you have the best location possible but that'll cost far more than I'm willing to spend.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
May 19 2011 16:59 GMT
#136
Marketing would probably be pretty easy since I believe most esports dedicated sites would be happy to give shoutouts. Even on GSL and TSL they shoutout people hosting meetups, so getting them to mention the bar and saying some good stuff about it probably wouldn't be too hard.

I think it sounds like an awesome idea, though of course it's not only "esports + bar = success", you would have to make sure to have a nice bar, good food, good drinks and so on. I absolutely think it could become a success if done right though!
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
May 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#137
If you have a gaming bar the style of those Japanese costume cafes with the bartenders and waitresses in cosplay, then you had a specific room in that bar dedicated to e-sports viewing and chilling - showing quake, CS and sc2 and DOTA/HON/LOL then I could see this working. Like others have said, you can't have E-sports viewing on TV as the main attraction or else you get too small of a clientele, but with a "gaming" themed bar you could work in the e-sports viewing pretty easily.
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
May 19 2011 17:30 GMT
#138
I don't live in Stockholm, but I'll move to Uppsala in about half a year, and if this ever gets going I have a feeling I'll be spending quite some money on train tickets.

Sounds like an awesome idea.
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sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
May 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#139
great idea lol mby this is future of e-sport? be so popular that they have own bars
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#140
On May 20 2011 02:11 t3tsubo wrote:
If you have a gaming bar the style of those Japanese costume cafes with the bartenders and waitresses in cosplay, then you had a specific room in that bar dedicated to e-sports viewing and chilling - showing quake, CS and sc2 and DOTA/HON/LOL then I could see this working. Like others have said, you can't have E-sports viewing on TV as the main attraction or else you get too small of a clientele, but with a "gaming" themed bar you could work in the e-sports viewing pretty easily.


i'm really not sure that this would work in Sweden seeing as we dont have a single theme-restaurant as far as I know, the closest we got is TGIF. Doing something like that with zerglings and zealots all over the place would scare away loads of people, I wouldnt go to that bar even if I owned it.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
May 19 2011 18:04 GMT
#141
Well I wouldn't exclusively make it Starcraft themed at all, I don't think you really want to decorate the place themed on any game at all. Make it a regular bar, and instead of sports paraphernalia on the walls, have autographed pictures of Day9, along with people from all ESPORTS, which sadly would include Halo (sorry I'm a PC guy), but we can't discriminate against our brothers
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#142
On May 20 2011 03:04 Body_Shield wrote:
Well I wouldn't exclusively make it Starcraft themed at all, I don't think you really want to decorate the place themed on any game at all. Make it a regular bar, and instead of sports paraphernalia on the walls, have autographed pictures of Day9, along with people from all ESPORTS, which sadly would include Halo (sorry I'm a PC guy), but we can't discriminate against our brothers


Most definitely!
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
dignitasNewmaN
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden137 Posts
May 19 2011 19:22 GMT
#143
Don't wanna rain on your parade but to be fair an esports themed bar would not work at all, I like the idea though but I would start with an esports themed night out. Like esports after work or similar.

If that works out maybe do something once a month, then increase frequency
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 19 2011 19:24 GMT
#144
I would be wary about your poll numbers. How many of those voters are actually from around stockholm?
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
May 19 2011 19:24 GMT
#145
I would love it love it love it. And some people would most likely come there even if they didn't even know about e-sports, so I don't see it as a too big of a commitment.
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anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
May 19 2011 19:33 GMT
#146
a full time esports bar would be quite amazing, and if you were to make one i don't think there's a better place in the western world to get one started than Sweden, possibly one of the major US cities or Germany.
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astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
May 19 2011 19:49 GMT
#147
I think this can be totally possible to do in the US. All you have to do is talk to a bar owner and see if you can rent it out and try it for the night and then if it works make a business out of it
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Frallan
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden56 Posts
May 19 2011 19:49 GMT
#148
Being from Sweden I think it's essential that SC2 is not the only esport shown at the bar. As you said in the title, HoN, CS and SC2 would be the big ones. Maybe throw in a bit of Quake live since these are currently the most popular games in Sweden currently. Im not 18 myself but I would be very interested to going to an Esports bar.
Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
May 19 2011 19:58 GMT
#149
So when do you think that this will go live? Late summer? Earlier? Later? I'm trying to plan my summer here.
It's the least I can do.
FerdinanDkapaow
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden17 Posts
May 19 2011 20:15 GMT
#150
This would be amazing, would even come up from Skåne just for that ;>>
wat
Prixm
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden145 Posts
May 19 2011 20:16 GMT
#151
If this is gonna happend. Call me, I would love to work for you, I would be your personal slave (but with pay ofcourse haha). Im serious too :D
Snerren
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden58 Posts
May 19 2011 20:41 GMT
#152
Dude if you get this done you would be king!

I live in Stockholm and I would definetly show up!
I'll take you all on!
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
May 19 2011 20:48 GMT
#153
What games or events will be featured in the bar?
-Besides sc2, will there be cs, quake?
-Will MLG, WCG be featured?
-how will you keep up with the various gaming scenes?
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
May 19 2011 20:50 GMT
#154
On May 20 2011 00:17 Damian wrote:
"We should totally open a bar!" :D

HIMYM reference?
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413X
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden203 Posts
May 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#155
DOOOOOO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no seriously...


DOOOOOO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Encrym
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden25 Posts
May 19 2011 21:07 GMT
#156
I think that this is a great idea. You would probably have a lot more regulars than other bars, since there really is no place for gamers to meet their peers.. Sure, LAN-events and pc-bangs are great, but they are really not that social.

I don't think the 18-year age limit will be a problem either. Myself, I would be really annoyed if there was a younger crowd, who would just scream way too much and ruin the mood. Amongs my friends and I, I think around 10 would want to visit about once a week if a good place like this existed in a location near the red metro line.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 19 2011 21:13 GMT
#157
On May 20 2011 04:24 travis wrote:
I would be wary about your poll numbers. How many of those voters are actually from around stockholm?


I actually pmed the mods to see if I could get the the numbers from sweden only, but apparantly its not that easy to get =(

On May 20 2011 05:48 archonOOid wrote:
What games or events will be featured in the bar?
-Besides sc2, will there be cs, quake?
-Will MLG, WCG be featured?
-how will you keep up with the various gaming scenes?


its been posted throughout the thread, but my intentions are showing HoN, SC2, WoW and a bit of CS. It all depends on what the crowd wants ofcourse.

As long as there's streams,vods or even Battle Reports i'll show them, I just need to contact the associated organizations to see if they have any problems with me showing them in a public area.

Keeping up with the HoN and SC2 scenes will be easy as i'm fairly up-to-date on those just by pure interest. Quake, CS, LoL and WoW if the customers ask for it i'll get updated and show them.

I dont intend on being the allknowing source of all sorts of gaming, but I do intend on getting bartenders who follow different genres of gaming so they can cover the areas where I have no interest.

This is still all in theory of course, i'm still faaaaaar from making this happen.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
May 19 2011 21:26 GMT
#158
I'd LOVE IT!
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Fortitudosc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
May 19 2011 21:36 GMT
#159
If I lived in Stockholm I would only drink at that bar
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
May 19 2011 21:44 GMT
#160
I don't drink but I'd love to be in the social setting of an e-sports bar!
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 19 2011 22:59 GMT
#161
I would so travel to Stockholm for a night at an E-sports bar. Make it happen in Gothenburg too please :>
Thergal
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4 Posts
May 20 2011 01:14 GMT
#162
See you there if it opens, sounds so awesome !;D
Sossa
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1 Post
May 20 2011 07:01 GMT
#163
This is an awsome idea!
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 07:07:22
May 20 2011 07:04 GMT
#164
On May 20 2011 07:59 Valikyr wrote:
I would so travel to Stockholm for a night at an E-sports bar. Make it happen in Gothenburg too please :>


Word man, wooord.

I love this idea, never been nerd AND drunk.

shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
May 20 2011 07:11 GMT
#165
If this happens, I'll make sure to pay a visit next time I'm in Stockholm!
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 07:38:14
May 20 2011 07:36 GMT
#166
I'd go there, but I'm rarely in Stockholm so I'm not a solid source of income Voting positive nevertheless.
xyzåäö
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 20 2011 07:48 GMT
#167
It would be awesome an E-Sports bar, nothing beats a regular sports bar as it is, sitting back on a saturday after noon with a burger and pint watching the football results come in.

The only thing is, you would have to stream alot of stuff onto projectors i guess as theres like no TV channels with any SC2 on as of yet, but awesome idea. Could have like streams around the bar from some of the Liquid streams :3

Awesome
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gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
May 20 2011 07:52 GMT
#168
If you're doing market research, shouldn't there be a separate poll for Stockholm residents only?
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
May 20 2011 07:57 GMT
#169
On May 20 2011 16:48 Pandemona wrote:
It would be awesome an E-Sports bar, nothing beats a regular sports bar as it is, sitting back on a saturday after noon with a burger and pint watching the football results come in.

The only thing is, you would have to stream alot of stuff onto projectors i guess as theres like no TV channels with any SC2 on as of yet, but awesome idea. Could have like streams around the bar from some of the Liquid streams :3

Awesome

You can stream from a computer to a TV. No projector needed.
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
May 20 2011 08:05 GMT
#170
you know what you should do? Make this ESPORTS bar

1. ask every customer waht their favorite Multiplayer game is and make stats to use for broadcasting
2. PC bang during day is a good idea but also means bigger investments and makes the bar less appealing to general public. makes it too nerdy.
3. make it look like a cozy cumfy cafe. nothing flashy.
4. franchise it and branch alll over the world :D inclusing amsterdam pls I will make you rich with my beer purchasing
I had a bad dream. Don't be afraid, bad dreams are only dreams. What a time you chose to be born in...
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
May 20 2011 08:09 GMT
#171
a pure esport bar would be pretty epic.

Have the bar with TV's showing replays of games etc, live streams what ever. Serve drinks have club nights whatever, but also keep some nights clean for Esports

You could also have a small cyber cafe attached in the back which could play host to tournaments of those not drunk
roffelito
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden9 Posts
May 20 2011 08:22 GMT
#172
definitely should have an e-sports bar. with a resident e-sports team! it would probably be a pretty small place, not like O'Leary's or those typical sports bars with two floors etc. but maybe in the future? in that case, there could be a stage with booths for live matches.. but more importantly for the first venue you need to focus on good displays with seats positioned for optimal viewing. not some pale projector screens.
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Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 20 2011 08:28 GMT
#173
Holy fuck yeah yeah yeah yeah, that would be a way to get my half nerd friends into esports!

Make

it

happen.
Kruudos
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 11:01:49
May 20 2011 10:49 GMT
#174
This would be really great! I live in Gävle but i would def take the train with some mates during the weekend to down some beers and watch some GSL or stuff like that!

The most important thing is to always have good content to stream, and alwas the newest. Def would not go bar/i-cafe. Focus on the bar aspect and dont alienate the general public i.e if I wanted to have a beer with some friends of mine ( specially girls) I wouldnt feel silly taking them there.

Nerd - haha why u socialies with ppl not liking u play epic sc2 ?! u so stupid, lol noob.

Me - Geez, be realistic man...

E-SPORTSBAR HWAITING!

Hope u feel my input is worth reading.

Peace!
/Kruudos

P.S U should start a facebook-group about this and inv ppl that lives around Stockholm and the rest of Sweden. Could start by sending invites to the sweds on TL and then they will probably forward it to their friends.

Then u can really see if its viable.
knowing is half the battle
Davildo
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden21 Posts
May 20 2011 14:48 GMT
#175
This is a great idea!

If you would need any employees, do be quick to tell me where I should send my application
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 20 2011 14:50 GMT
#176
brb, I'm moving to Sweden :D
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 14:54:25
May 20 2011 14:54 GMT
#177
I'd love to see that kind of bar, but not in Stockholm!

I'm selfish so I want all the awesome stuff close to where I live!

But seriously, it would be great, I would sure go to that kind of bar, if there was one close to where I live.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
May 20 2011 15:06 GMT
#178
If this happens in the summer Im so there.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 20 2011 15:53 GMT
#179
OP updated with a new poll for my current project.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 16:15:41
May 20 2011 16:15 GMT
#180
Man, MLG would be golden! I'd be there with my mates for sure, at least one of the days. Though I'd suggest adding a *Please do not answer if you won't have an opportunity to come/do not live in Sweden* tag for specific events, might give a slightly less skeved poll.
It's the least I can do.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 16:18:48
May 20 2011 16:17 GMT
#181
I thought I did? ;P

Edit: Bolded it to clarify.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 16:24:35
May 20 2011 16:23 GMT
#182
Get Jinro to drink there. That would be so boss...

But wow...I hate you Swedes...why are you so lucky? This is going to be epic.

btw, Massive respect to you Hasse. I wish the best of luck to you.
Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
May 20 2011 16:40 GMT
#183
On May 21 2011 01:17 Hasse wrote:
I thought I did? ;P

Edit: Bolded it to clarify.


So you did, my bad. Which might however prove that it needed to be bolded, so yay, I'm helping!
It's the least I can do.
manloveman
Profile Joined April 2011
424 Posts
May 20 2011 16:45 GMT
#184
Fuck it, Im moving to sweden
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway533 Posts
May 20 2011 16:53 GMT
#185
On May 21 2011 01:45 manloveman wrote:
Fuck it, Im moving to sweden


Then you can replace some of the swedish people moving to Norway =)
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
May 20 2011 16:54 GMT
#186
The problem with MLG is the fact it happens during late night in europe. I am looking forward to see the conclusion of this night
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t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
May 20 2011 17:09 GMT
#187
On May 20 2011 03:00 Hasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 02:11 t3tsubo wrote:
If you have a gaming bar the style of those Japanese costume cafes with the bartenders and waitresses in cosplay, then you had a specific room in that bar dedicated to e-sports viewing and chilling - showing quake, CS and sc2 and DOTA/HON/LOL then I could see this working. Like others have said, you can't have E-sports viewing on TV as the main attraction or else you get too small of a clientele, but with a "gaming" themed bar you could work in the e-sports viewing pretty easily.


i'm really not sure that this would work in Sweden seeing as we dont have a single theme-restaurant as far as I know, the closest we got is TGIF. Doing something like that with zerglings and zealots all over the place would scare away loads of people, I wouldnt go to that bar even if I owned it.


no don't do sc2 theme for the main thing, do like JRPG sexy girls and WOW sexy girls kinda style
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 20 2011 18:52 GMT
#188
On May 21 2011 01:54 Superouman wrote:
The problem with MLG is the fact it happens during late night in europe. I am looking forward to see the conclusion of this night

this is an issue yes, gonna pm jp to see if he has the times for the semi-finals/finals and see if it'll work out.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
May 20 2011 22:56 GMT
#189
I would definetly go if I ever were to either move or visit stockholm.
Yes I am
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
May 20 2011 23:05 GMT
#190
An other thing to consider is how much people would like to listen to commentaries in english instead of the native one. For example, in france, i doubt that a majority of people would like to listen english commentaries.
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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
May 20 2011 23:32 GMT
#191
On May 21 2011 08:05 Superouman wrote:
An other thing to consider is how much people would like to listen to commentaries in english instead of the native one. For example, in france, i doubt that a majority of people would like to listen english commentaries.

I'm not sure how many other swedes agree with me and no disrespect to all the probably really good Swedish casters, but man I can't stand listening to SC2 commentary in Swedish, and worse than that would be Swedish casters casting in broken English.
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Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 23:41:43
May 20 2011 23:36 GMT
#192
On May 21 2011 08:05 Superouman wrote:
An other thing to consider is how much people would like to listen to commentaries in english instead of the native one. For example, in france, i doubt that a majority of people would like to listen english commentaries.

There's a big difference on that between Sweden and France, many people are if not fluent at least adequate in English, and we encounter it more frequently here than one does in France. For instance, we practically never dub anything here not aimed at children, something I know one often do in France. I guess you can sum it up to cultural differences.

So while it's a valid concern in many countries, Sweden isn't one of them, at least not with the crowd E-sports are drawing who already are acclimated with the English language and streams.

And, as Salle said above me, most people would probably prefer it to be in English as well. I know I would.
It's the least I can do.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
May 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#193
I can't wait for the bar fights between zerg players and everyone else. Better hire a good bouncer
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 20 2011 23:48 GMT
#194
Go for it. I can't wait for one in the US.
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VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
May 20 2011 23:58 GMT
#195
Darn! I thought I had an original idea thinking of this. Too bad I'm in Winnipeg, Nowhere, not an esports mecca.
Nuda Veritas
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 21 2011 00:00 GMT
#196
MLG with the delays usually turn into all-nighters, better make sure the venue accommodates for that.
Trawler
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden382 Posts
May 21 2011 00:00 GMT
#197
I would go
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 21 2011 00:08 GMT
#198
Oh man, if there was one of these in Boston I'd be a regular. Nothing like getting a little rowdy watching some starcraft with a few beers
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
May 21 2011 00:22 GMT
#199
i think almost any of us would go regularly if there were any around us. it's too bad that there aren't enough gamers in america to make something like this feasible, but in areas heavily populated by gamers, it would definitely be a blast.
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 00:33:10
May 21 2011 00:26 GMT
#200
mlg is on way to late, wont find any bars open at that time. finals has started around 2am, every MLG, on a sunday. that's just not possible. go for dreamhack instead. a month left, finals will air daytime during summer-time, sounds a lot more reasonable.

a month should be a somewhat decent amount of time to get everything in order as well.
On May 21 2011 08:05 Superouman wrote:
An other thing to consider is how much people would like to listen to commentaries in english instead of the native one. For example, in france, i doubt that a majority of people would like to listen english commentaries.

there are barely - if any - hardcore starcraft 2 fans in sweden, who would prefer swedish streams
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
May 21 2011 00:28 GMT
#201
I've been going to the bars here in Austin, TX trying to get this exact same thing set up for BW.

Good luck dude, I think it's an amazing idea.
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Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
May 21 2011 00:32 GMT
#202
On May 21 2011 09:26 ribboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:05 Superouman wrote:
An other thing to consider is how much people would like to listen to commentaries in english instead of the native one. For example, in france, i doubt that a majority of people would like to listen english commentaries.

there are barely - if any - hardcore starcraft 2 fans in sweden, who the swedish streams

I wasn't even aware there existed any Swedish strems. -.-'
It's the least I can do.
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 00:34:51
May 21 2011 00:34 GMT
#203
We may actually see the first drunken brawl over a Starcraft match. :D
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 06:55:07
May 21 2011 06:53 GMT
#204
Dunno if I'm allowed to link to or something but here's some feedback from just a night of NASL in a bar in Seattle.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/h892n/watch_professional_starcraft_at_a_bar_this/


Purely starcraft2 imo! the other games aren't nearly as fun, maybe to fill time if there's no interesting starcraft going on you can put CS 1.6 on since it's alright but I would advise against HoN. The game is alright to play but it's sooooo boring to watch.


and yeah only english commentating would probably be the best, swedish is a terrible language to use for starcraft casting.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 21 2011 07:32 GMT
#205
On May 21 2011 15:53 Kentakky wrote:
Dunno if I'm allowed to link to or something but here's some feedback from just a night of NASL in a bar in Seattle.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/h892n/watch_professional_starcraft_at_a_bar_this/


Purely starcraft2 imo! the other games aren't nearly as fun, maybe to fill time if there's no interesting starcraft going on you can put CS 1.6 on since it's alright but I would advise against HoN. The game is alright to play but it's sooooo boring to watch.


and yeah only english commentating would probably be the best, swedish is a terrible language to use for starcraft casting.


Thanks for the link, will definitely read after work today!
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 13:51:51
May 21 2011 13:50 GMT
#206
On May 21 2011 08:32 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 08:05 Superouman wrote:
An other thing to consider is how much people would like to listen to commentaries in english instead of the native one. For example, in france, i doubt that a majority of people would like to listen english commentaries.

I'm not sure how many other swedes agree with me and no disrespect to all the probably really good Swedish casters, but man I can't stand listening to SC2 commentary in Swedish, and worse than that would be Swedish casters casting in broken English.

Same for me, i prefer a lot english casters over french ones.


On May 21 2011 15:53 Kentakky wrote:
Dunno if I'm allowed to link to or something but here's some feedback from just a night of NASL in a bar in Seattle.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/h892n/watch_professional_starcraft_at_a_bar_this/
Purely starcraft2 imo! the other games aren't nearly as fun, maybe to fill time if there's no interesting starcraft going on you can put CS 1.6 on since it's alright but I would advise against HoN. The game is alright to play but it's sooooo boring to watch.

This is what a e-sport bar should aim to, showing daily events as tests with hopefully a decent amount of clients instead of showing finals. You can see on tl that there is a lot of gsl, tsl parties over the world so getting many clients for this should not be a big deal.
The article shows that daily events are promising in quite big cities and Stockholm is a huge city in a country where esport is widely spread so it can't be worse than in seattle, with the adequate advertisement.

You always aim for the largest clientele so you want to name your bar "e-sports", not "Starcraft II". I don't know nothing about how big are communities in other games.
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BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
May 21 2011 19:42 GMT
#207
For bar rules you should definately post the TL amendments lawl. NO BALANCE DISCUSSION!
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LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
May 21 2011 19:48 GMT
#208
I love how much Sweden is representing E-sports.. An e sports bar would be fucking amazing.. Drinking with fellow gamers and nerds.. Only if something like this was happening in America.
since 98'
Yami_no_cosmos
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden59 Posts
May 23 2011 08:00 GMT
#209
I would so go there. Great idea! If ya need some extra help feel free to give me a PM. :D
" Best at what I do, but what I do isn't pretty"
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
May 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#210
So.. looks like I am moving to sweden =D. haha not really but i would def <3 to visit and crash in Dario's house =). Ill even take the little closet-sized room. =D
wordd
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 08:08:53
May 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#211
um fuck yeah?

edit: if the beers are a good cheap price!
YA
Hasse
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden579 Posts
May 26 2011 11:42 GMT
#212
MLG Columbus won't happen sadly, the finals will be played at around 1-2 am Swedish time which doesn't really fit bar times/the customers. Sorry! Will try and sort something for DHS instead.
You can get alot more with a kind word and a gun, than just a kind word - Al Capone
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
May 26 2011 11:46 GMT
#213
Well the finals are on Sunday as well. But how about a Friday or Saturday event thing? Not completely sure when they start though. I mean doesn't have to be finals.
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bronze
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden4 Posts
June 13 2011 18:56 GMT
#214
I too have been thinking about this! I started an event on facebook just to get some form of estimation for how many that would come: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=206825019360323

Hasse, please contact me so we can collaborate, I really wanna make this happen!
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
June 13 2011 19:18 GMT
#215
Omg I would love to do this, need some of this in america lol.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 13 2011 19:28 GMT
#216
Sounds cool, but drinking bar =

Good luck! If any nation can have a successful esports bar, it's probably sweden! :D
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 13 2011 19:30 GMT
#217
I would kill to watch MLG in a bar. KILL.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
June 13 2011 19:31 GMT
#218
I would love to go to an E-Sports bar except I live in Canada and Stockholm is quite a ways away lol
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FreddYCooL
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden415 Posts
June 13 2011 22:30 GMT
#219
It would be very cool, i would try it atleast a few times and if i liked it i would be a regular
Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
June 14 2011 00:18 GMT
#220
I would go, would definitly need to be like a lounge/e-cafe/bar kinda deal otherside i dont think it would draw a large enough crowd.
alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
July 08 2011 03:00 GMT
#221
Is OP still around? Arranging this would be absolutely awesome, and I think there's definitely a large crowd for it...
Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 03:30:08
July 08 2011 03:16 GMT
#222
If i were in Sweden i would go.
Sweden is great lol.Make this happen plz.
hi
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
July 08 2011 03:19 GMT
#223
That is such an awesome idea. If there was one near me I would so go!
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crowbar
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 01:23:17
August 27 2011 00:46 GMT
#224
Yes!! any1 from guthenburg that wanna arrange one here too? : D

http://www.facebook.com/groups/EsportbarGbg/ <<< if want

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