On May 10 2011 12:53 Samp wrote: signed this, we are in 2011 ffs.. how can ppl be that retarded, its sickening
The whole world is regressing, even in the US. We don't hang gays, but refuse them basic rights and it's getting worse every year. Saying it's 2011 means nothing. There was more religious freedom under the Romans than under Catholicism, despite the progression of 500 years.
On May 10 2011 12:28 Highlight wrote: is this serious? jeez death penalty? why aren't the major news networks covering this?
MSNBC is busy telling Republicans that they didn't do shit to help get Osama. Fox is busy telling Democrats that enhanced interrogations work. CNN is lost in their situation room.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
I take it you don't remember when a certain regime would prosecute and execute people for just being Jewish.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
If Kofi was still around, he would have blitzkrieged that shit by now.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
Even if other nations didn't have the right to 'tell a sovereign nation how to legislate', they can certainly withhold aid as a result of decisions said 'sovereign nation' decides to make.
Is making sure the gays can't eat da poopoo is more important to Uganda than having bread on their dinner tables? Probably not, for most of them.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
Because certain things fall under the blanket of human rights. they are not rules that sovereign states can break, they are unalienable rights of all human beings. Murdering gay people is one of those. so is killing civilians involved in peaceful protesting. So is racial genocide.
If you don't understand this concept, you should probably consider reading some Wikipedia entries before posting.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
This is an absurd stance. If this was the case bodies like the JCC, or the UN period, wouldn't exist. This is a morally flawed thing to think imo.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
Because certain things fall under the blanket of human rights. they are not rules that sovereign states can break, they are unalienable rights of all human beings. Murdering gay people is one of those. so is killing civilians involved in peaceful protesting. So is racial genocide.
If you don't understand this concept, you should probably consider reading some Wikipedia entries before posting.
On May 10 2011 12:54 Redunzl wrote: How about you stay away from Uganda if you don't like this. Who are you to tell a sovereign nation how to legislate.
Because certain things fall under the blanket of human rights. they are not rules that sovereign states can break, they are unalienable rights of all human beings. Murdering gay people is one of those. so is killing civilians involved in peaceful protesting. So is racial genocide.
If you don't understand this concept, you should probably consider reading some Wikipedia entries before posting.
The UN only acts when the outcry is loud enough (eg Rwanda) or vast amounts of money are at stake (eg Libya). Look at Syria, they are absolutely butchering their people far beyond what Qaddfi did and nary a peep is heard from the UN. It's all "slap on the wrist" bullshit. Syria is deploying tanks, shooting into crowds, doing midnight raids on protesters, barring hospitals. But because Syria is not a major exporter of oil and because it's a major enemy of Israel, no one gives a shit. Qaddfi merely had the threat of retaliation against his uprising and the UN jumped on that shit faster than a dog fart clears a room. Syria is actually butchering their people and no one cares.
So yea, the UN is a fucking joke. It's a bunch of self-interested cock suckers kept in check by a bunch of dick-waving WWII winners.
On May 10 2011 12:29 Hawk2 wrote: I'm sure the passing of this bill will illicit international sanctions against Uganda, that being said I really doubt that it will be passed as it will simply hurt the Ugandan economy.
Even if it is passed, it's even more doubtful that it will or can be enforced. This is all simply propaganda endorsed by the Ugandan government to feed their population reasons for their poverty.
Why is that? In Saudi Arabia it's a death penalty too and we trade like crazy with them.
Countries already with it and most have no sanctions
Sudan Saudi Arabia Iran Mauritania Yemen
plus parts of Nigeria and Somalia
Total number of countries where homosexuality is illegal, usually with long term prison sentences: 80
From the 2009 annual report by ILGA (International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, and Intersex Association)
On May 10 2011 12:28 Highlight wrote: is this serious? jeez death penalty? why aren't the major news networks covering this?
There have been countless horrible things going on in Uganda forever, including genocide and concentration camps, and nobody ever knows about them because the country somehow always flies under the radar of the media. It's a very terrible and saddening thing.
As much as I disagree with the idea/act of homosexuality ((**My own personal opinion**)), this is completely disgusting and I really hope it doesn't go through.
On May 10 2011 14:11 Newtonz wrote: As much as I disagree with the idea/act of homosexuality ((**My own personal opinion**)), this is completely disgusting and I really hope it doesn't go through.