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HansMoleman
United States343 Posts
- not signed, although I'm thoroughly against this bill. | ||
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Doorhandle
Canada107 Posts
I dont know what you mean, but Im assuming you are saying that Uganda is a Christian country. But why is it only "Christians" that know what is morally right or wrong? It's common fucking sense. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:40 hmunkey wrote: Mind giving me an example? I can't really think of one and nothing you've said so far has any shred of logic in it, leading me to believe you can't either and are just talking out of your ass. Like I said earlier if you were indoctrinated in Saudi you'd think killing gays was the thing to do. They do it every friday in head chopping ceremonies. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:45 Doorhandle wrote: I dont know what you mean, but Im assuming you are saying that Uganda is a Christian country. But why is it only "Christians" that know what is morally right or wrong? It's common fucking sense. No one said Christians are the only ones who know morals on any issue. Yes, Uganda is Christian. Yes, they're pushing to execute homosexuals. No, that is not the general consensus among Christians, especially those in the countries TLers live in. | ||
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PrivateJimmy
United States21 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:40 hmunkey wrote: Mind giving me an example? I can't really think of one and nothing you've said so far has any shred of logic in it, leading me to believe you can't either and are just talking out of your ass. I agree with tdt that human rights are not cast in stone. However, i think its safe to say that in this case Uganda is pushing past almost all of the agreed upon ones, namely the right live and let live. If they are not hurting you, why attack them? also someone brought up the point that this would help any AIDS/HIV problem. it seems to me like education and prevention would be a whole lot better way to stem that problem that doesn't involve the murder of thousands. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:48 tdt wrote: Like I said earlier if you were indoctrinated in Saudi you'd think killing gays was the thing to do. They do it every friday in head chopping ceremonies. Do you understand how to use logic? First of all, your statement is absurd and without any citation, but let's ignore that for now. You basically stated it's a human right to kill people so going against this is also going against peoples' rights. Are you really that retarded? Because if so, I don't want to even begin to comprehend how you were able to turn on your computer. Thinking "doing xx is the thing to do" doesn't make it your right to do so. That's the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time. | ||
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:47 travis wrote: i signed it with my email address i get spam on ^^ | ||
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Halcyondaze
United States509 Posts
I am against this, but not going to sign cause it seems too scammy for me. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:45 Doorhandle wrote: I dont know what you mean, but Im assuming you are saying that Uganda is a Christian country. But why is it only "Christians" that know what is morally right or wrong? It's common fucking sense. I take the opposite view , rather than "why is it only Christians that can see that this is wrong" I see it as they think they are doing gods work so Christianity is actually playing a negative role here. That's why I mentioned Uganda was Christian. Absolutely it's common sense. Killing is the ultimate form of oppression. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:48 tdt wrote: Like I said earlier if you were indoctrinated in Saudi you'd think killing gays was the thing to do. They do it every friday in head chopping ceremonies. I don't really consider their opinion when talking about human rights. Why? Because people that have friday night head chopping sessions have a bad concept of human rights so I don't really consider them when making a statement about it. | ||
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PrivateJimmy
United States21 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:54 Halcyondaze wrote: The bill won't kill anybody but the martyrs. And Uganda has so many problems, maybe they just want a quick fix? I am against this, but not going to sign cause it seems too scammy for me. just do what travis did and use a separate email. it doesnt ask for any other info. signed | ||
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.DrK
Canada326 Posts
On May 10 2011 14:47 travis wrote: i signed it with my email address i get spam on i too signed it with my spam email address | ||
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Brethern
231 Posts
On May 10 2011 12:47 EtherealDeath wrote: Yea seriously, I don't like homosexuality but I don't see why their private, consensual activities should be regulated. Ever think that maybe it's the non private stuff they are trying to stop? Are gay pride parades necessary in order to be gay? Is committing sex acts in public places like washrooms, locker rooms where ever else it's possible to do it that's not private property. I'll say it again, if they want to be gay go ahead. I just don't want to see it. If I wanted to I'd look for it. FYI I'm against the death issue but I still don't like them. | ||
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
This is why no one takes africa seriously, the whole continent has been a shit whole for nearly 3 thousand years. User was warned for this post | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
I signed up with my spam email as well. | ||
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bEwArE
United Kingdom121 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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In Uganda, the Anti-Homosexuality Bill, if enacted, would broaden the criminalisation of homosexuality by introducing the death penalty for people who have previous convictions, are HIV-positive, or engage in same sex acts with people under 18 years of age. The bill also includes provisions for Ugandans who engage in same-sex sexual relations outside of Uganda, asserting that they may be extradited for punishment back to Uganda, and includes penalties for individuals, companies, media organisations, or non-governmental organisations that support LGBT rights. The legislation strengthens the criminalisation of homosexuality in Uganda by introducing the death penalty for people who are considered serial offenders, are suspected of "aggravated homosexuality" and are HIV-positive, or who engage in sexual acts with those under 18 years of age.[13] People who are caught or suspected of homosexual activity will be forced to undergo HIV tests; Ugandans who engage in same-sex sexual relations outside Uganda will likewise fall under the jurisdiction of this law, and may be extradited and charged with a felony. Furthermore, if passed, the bill will require anyone who is aware of an offense or an offender, including individuals, companies, media organisations, or non-governmental organisations who support LGBT rights, to report the offender within 24 hours. If an individual does not do so he or she is also considered an offender and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding 250 "currency points" or imprisonment up to three years this is from wikipedia | ||
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LaLLsc2
United States502 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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