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Keep it civil guys.

Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.

Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.

This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 02 2011 12:07 GMT
#1961
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R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
May 02 2011 12:08 GMT
#1962
It will not be the end of terrorism. Osama is now in his religions heaven. The murderer of osama will go to his religions hell. The violent death of ppl will lead to more hate and more violence.

seems like ppl didnt learn shit in the last 500 wars

yeah lets celebrate the murderer of someone

this is only the start, and its not gonna stop until ppl stop seeking for "JUSTICE"

and in the end, it all comes down to religion
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
May 02 2011 12:08 GMT
#1963
On May 02 2011 21:05 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 20:59 Mawi wrote:
Edit* just saw an arabic news paper that said he died 1week ago and this "news" has first been shown to public for various reasons,


"News" can be news even it it happend a week ago.

And it makes sense that they wouldn't just exclaim "WE KILLED BIN LADEN!" right away. (like if they were wrong for instance)


and wait one week... and say they just raided the place where he was hiding and killed him? hm
Yes im
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 02 2011 12:08 GMT
#1964
On May 02 2011 21:04 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:02 roonan67 wrote:
well... that took some time, dont get me wrong, im glad hes dead but i would have liked him to go on trial and here what he has to say, could have been interesting to hear. also this is not the end of terrorism someone else will probably step up and "replace" Osama and i dont want to know what he has to do to prove himself capable of replacing Osama.


My tax dollars aren't gonna go to housing that asshole for the rest of his existence. Bullets are much cheaper and effective at resolving the issues.

Good thing you don't have a say
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
May 02 2011 12:08 GMT
#1965
On May 02 2011 21:05 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 20:31 blackone wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:18 vyyye wrote:
Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation.
Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme.

Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany.

Germans are very much against America, is how I would put it.
€dit: Don't mean to generalize, not all of them of course. But the amount of anti-american racism in Germany is disturbing.

Racism probably isn't the right word, but yes, the amount of anti-american xenophobia in Germany, and especially among vocal German netizens is really appalling.



Wow really? Wonder why Germans hate us?
We march to victory!
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
May 02 2011 12:09 GMT
#1966
Personally I don't really care a whole lot whether they really got him or not. I'm just happy that lots of people finally have some sense of closure and maybe this will help us move forward as a nation. Terrorism will always exist as will Islamic fundamentalists so I really don't think this one man is or would have been of much consequence so far as this nation's safety goes.

I'm just hoping for a "mission accomplished" followed by a gradual withdrawal from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Of course that may be wishful thinking if this sparks some sort of backlash which requires us to stay in these countries longer... :/
inermis
Profile Joined September 2010
353 Posts
May 02 2011 12:09 GMT
#1967
On May 02 2011 21:06 xjoehammerx wrote:
You doubter are being stupid. If the guy is alive expect a video to be released shortly stating that he is; I'm pretty sure he is dead. A SEAL team did the deed and I seriously doubt a group of hardened professionals like that killed the wrong guy.


sure, and the very same hardened porfessionals couldnt even find him for 10 years...
play hard go pro
ChaoticBlack
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia288 Posts
May 02 2011 12:10 GMT
#1968
On May 02 2011 20:07 SkelA wrote:
No official pictures + buried at sea ???

Hmm yea.... im still waiting for some proof.


It doesn't make sense if his death was faked since he could just show he is alive and destroy the populace's trust in the US of A. Unless this is a super plot by Obama to get bin Laden to come out of hiding to prove he is still kickin' haha
Senjougahara Fascination
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 12:13:28
May 02 2011 12:10 GMT
#1969
On May 02 2011 21:08 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:05 nihlon wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:59 Mawi wrote:
Edit* just saw an arabic news paper that said he died 1week ago and this "news" has first been shown to public for various reasons,


"News" can be news even it it happend a week ago.

And it makes sense that they wouldn't just exclaim "WE KILLED BIN LADEN!" right away. (like if they were wrong for instance)


and wait one week... and say they just raided the place where he was hiding and killed him? hm


I didn't say it did or did not happened a week ago. I only said it would make sense to not announce it immediatly. Also the word "just" is relative, you have to put it into context.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Billyssjssfj
Profile Joined April 2011
104 Posts
May 02 2011 12:11 GMT
#1970
On May 02 2011 21:09 inermis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:06 xjoehammerx wrote:
You doubter are being stupid. If the guy is alive expect a video to be released shortly stating that he is; I'm pretty sure he is dead. A SEAL team did the deed and I seriously doubt a group of hardened professionals like that killed the wrong guy.


sure, and the very same hardened porfessionals couldnt even find him for 10 years...

Touche
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 02 2011 12:11 GMT
#1971
On May 02 2011 21:09 inermis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:06 xjoehammerx wrote:
You doubter are being stupid. If the guy is alive expect a video to be released shortly stating that he is; I'm pretty sure he is dead. A SEAL team did the deed and I seriously doubt a group of hardened professionals like that killed the wrong guy.


sure, and the very same hardened porfessionals couldnt even find him for 10 years...

Its kinda hard to find someone when he could be hiding anywhere from the mountains to the cities,lol.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 02 2011 12:11 GMT
#1972
What I doubt is not that they caught him, but that he's actually dead. You'd have to be pretty stupid not to capture and "question" a guy like Bin Laden instead of killing him outright.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 12:14:28
May 02 2011 12:11 GMT
#1973
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samiamquinn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia137 Posts
May 02 2011 12:12 GMT
#1974
On May 02 2011 20:59 Cain0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 17:10 Gonozal wrote:
by the way - which court said bin laden deserves the death?

i mean - thats the way it usually goes. You have to go to court and you will be punished. Were was Bin ladens lawsuit?

User was warned for this post


Seriously? He admitted he killed 3000+ innocent civilians and plotted to kill more, thats like at the very least 30,000 years imprisonment, which will never be served because he can't live that long which will result in being given death penality.


America killed more innocent Afghanistanian civilians finding Bin Laden. We don't see Afghanistanian soldiers coming over to America and killing George Bush and his family. America seems to think the things other countries do to it are unacceptable but they have no hesitation doing whatever they want to other countries.

Also I find it totally barbaric that people are celebrating his death. I'm in no way sad the man is dead but its disgusting and pretty much asking for retaliation from Afghanistan.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
May 02 2011 12:12 GMT
#1975
This thread...baffles, perplexes and disgusts me.
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
May 02 2011 12:13 GMT
#1976
On May 02 2011 21:08 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:04 Baarn wrote:
On May 02 2011 21:02 roonan67 wrote:
well... that took some time, dont get me wrong, im glad hes dead but i would have liked him to go on trial and here what he has to say, could have been interesting to hear. also this is not the end of terrorism someone else will probably step up and "replace" Osama and i dont want to know what he has to do to prove himself capable of replacing Osama.


My tax dollars aren't gonna go to housing that asshole for the rest of his existence. Bullets are much cheaper and effective at resolving the issues.

Good thing you don't have a say


Well obviously my views are the same as the actions taken. So I guess I did in the end.
There's no S in KT. :P
Imres
Profile Joined March 2011
515 Posts
May 02 2011 12:13 GMT
#1977
On May 02 2011 21:11 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:05 zatic wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:31 blackone wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:18 vyyye wrote:
Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation.
Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme.

Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany.

Germans are very much against America, is how I would put it.
€dit: Don't mean to generalize, not all of them of course. But the amount of anti-american racism in Germany is disturbing.

Racism probably isn't the right word, but yes, the amount of anti-american xenophobia in Germany, and especially among vocal German netizens is really appalling.

In my eyes it's just a large part of europe, maybe even the world, disliking war and violence in general and don't agree with the reasons the US claim they have for keeping the wars going. AQ have done really terrible things, but it's not like they are doing them for no reason at all. America going to war over and over is something that draws a LOT of hate from especially european countries. At least thats how I see it. Most people i know are anti american, not against the people, just the country in general, but it's not like they don't know that not everyone in the US agrees with what's going on either.


Sadly you can limit it to western europe, and Japan, both are which have been deeply affected by WW2.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 12:17:25
May 02 2011 12:14 GMT
#1978
On May 02 2011 21:08 demonik187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 21:05 zatic wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:31 blackone wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:18 vyyye wrote:
Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation.
Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme.

Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany.

Germans are very much against America, is how I would put it.
€dit: Don't mean to generalize, not all of them of course. But the amount of anti-american racism in Germany is disturbing.

Racism probably isn't the right word, but yes, the amount of anti-american xenophobia in Germany, and especially among vocal German netizens is really appalling.

Wow really? Wonder why Germans hate us?

I was meaning to write an article about that as it is, with everything German, incredibly complex. It's an obscure mixture of Ignorance, Pacifism, Fear of Losing Their Identity, Rooting For The Underdog, Pride, Arrogance, and probably a bunch of additional factors.

That said this attitude is not representative of Germans in general and as I said mostly prevalent among young internet hot heads.

Now I am derailing this myself... What I want to say is don't pay too much attention to the German and/or other trolls in this thread please.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
May 02 2011 12:15 GMT
#1979
the amount of immediate response made me smile. Go USA!
ponyo.848
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
May 02 2011 12:15 GMT
#1980
On May 02 2011 21:05 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 20:31 blackone wrote:
On May 02 2011 20:18 vyyye wrote:
Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation.
Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme.

Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany.

Germans are very much against America, is how I would put it.
€dit: Don't mean to generalize, not all of them of course. But the amount of anti-american racism in Germany is disturbing.

Racism probably isn't the right word, but yes, the amount of anti-american xenophobia in Germany, and especially among vocal German netizens is really appalling.


Quite the contrary. First you have to acknowledge that most people here are very differnetiated when it comes to their attitudes towards the US as a political entity and the Americans as a people. Given the US foreign policy over the past 50 years, I conclude that the current anti-americanism wich is aimed towards the politics of the US as a nation, is more then justified.

Put differently, there is simply no country which has - in the past decades - caused so much war and death as the US did. On top of that they justify the forceful pursuit of their economic interests with the propagation of democratic values they themselves are sometimes not willing to abide by (see Guantanamo, for example).

tl;dr: If a nation's foreign policy is both ruthless and hippocritical, criticism of this nation's policy is justified and can exist apart from generalized hatred towards the people of that nation.
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