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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
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On May 02 2011 20:39 Cuddle wrote: So people in the US are celebrating someone being murdered? That's sad.
Do you know how money,resources,lives sacrificied were put in to capturing/killing Bin Laden? The people of America would still be celebrating even if Osama was captured and not killed.
I don't understand how you guys can't understand how americans must feel about this.
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On May 02 2011 20:45 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:43 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 02 2011 20:41 inermis wrote: fake announcement is a fake, pics or never happened, "hey look we killed osama ! too bad u cant see it cuz we threw his body into the ocean" convenient story, nothing more. http://i.imgur.com/R3Luq.pngPerhaps you should look through the thread before making useless statements. Fake picture. Take your own advice. You should probably spoiler that image.
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On May 02 2011 20:44 cynical wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:43 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 02 2011 20:41 inermis wrote: fake announcement is a fake, pics or never happened, "hey look we killed osama ! too bad u cant see it cuz we threw his body into the ocean" convenient story, nothing more. http://i.imgur.com/R3Luq.pngPerhaps you should look through the thread before making useless statements. Photoshop sir. And a bad one, used like 2 or 3 years ago no ?
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On May 02 2011 20:42 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:37 ImFromPortugal wrote:On May 02 2011 20:33 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 02 2011 20:26 ImFromPortugal wrote:On May 02 2011 20:17 partisan wrote:On May 02 2011 20:15 ImFromPortugal wrote:On May 02 2011 20:10 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:On May 02 2011 20:06 Electric.Jesus wrote: Could we please stop the Hitler comparison? This is totally stupid for two reasons:
a) compared to Hitler Bin Laden was only a minor Pain in the ass. Sure, he killed 3.000 people in the US which is a vicious crime and a human tragedy. But lets face it, Hitler had a whole nation and several allied nations behind him which allowed him to produce death tolls in the millions. Whereas a terrorist can only create the fear of killing people on a grander scale, a tyrant leader of a powerful nation can actually do it. b) Hitlers death was a result of Germany and its allies losing the war. He killed himself because all was lost for the Axis. This is not the case with Bin Laden; his network still exists. This is also the reaons why some people here correctly point out that celebrating Hitler's death was essentially celebrating the end of the war, since Hitler's death was symbolic for that. Bin Ladens death, however, is not equivalent to victory over Al-quaeda (even if the media want to convince you of the oppsite). and we knew hitler was 100% behind the death at the jews. same cannot be said about osama, like i dont know 100% who is truely responsible for 9/11. we just dont kno, and thatz why him dying kinda made me upset (he deserved it ofcouse) since i wanted the man to go on trial and see what he has to say. he said in a interview years ago that he wasnt behind the attacks... There are tapes of him bragging about the attacks, where in gods name do you people find this stuff. Wikipedia... Osama bin Laden statements after 9/11The FBI lists bin Laden as one of the "10 Most Wanted" in connection with several incidents including the USS Cole bombing and the 1998 United States embassy bombings in East Africa. The FBI's "FBI Most Wanted Terrorists" poster does not specifically hang responsibility for 9/11 on bin Laden, instead it only states "Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."[56] Messages issued by bin Laden after September 11, 2001 praised the attacks, and explained their motivation while at first denying any involvement.[57] On September 16, 2001, an Al Jazeera news presenter read a message purportedly signed by Osama bin Laden, in which the following words were stated: I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation.[58][59][60] In an interview with Osama bin Laden, published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat Karachi on September 28, 2001, he stated: "I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act."[61] There was reportedly no way to prove the e-mail published in Pakistan came from bin Laden. The Taliban denied he had access to any communications.[62][63] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4c7CesfM_9EJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks cnn&cd=1&hl=pt-PT&ct=clnk&gl=pt&source=www.google.pt Doesn't change the fact he was the leader of a terrorist organization that has killed numerous people over the years. I can't believe you'd actually believe what he said is true rofl. Why not?.. normally when terrorists achieve that kind of stuff they will brag about it and shove it in the face of the world...extremists dont care about the consequences they are not afraid of dying in the name of their cause... did you believe when bush said there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq?...i thought so. So, you're ignoring the numerous tapes that bin laden has made accepting responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, and you're entire basis for your arguement is an article from wikipedia? I'm not saying Bin laden wasn't responsible for the attacks on 9/11. No I didn't belive bush, why would I? There was no evidence indicating Iraq had WOMD's.
No evidence? .. there was forged evidence.. the basis of my argument are his words, nothing more...and the fact that he wasnt wanted for the 911 attacks as pointed before on the FBI website..
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On May 02 2011 20:38 Imres wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:36 The KY wrote:On May 02 2011 20:28 Butterz wrote: So now the American and Britian forces will leave Afghanistan or not?? Killing Osama Bin Laden is not the purpose of the war in Afghanistan...Al Qaeda =/= the Taliban. They had an alliance but in 2008 the Taliban severed ties. Then again I wonder if any of us can state what the purpose of the war in Afghanistan definitively is. Rarely is the actual reason for an invasion of a foreign country given. Opium. The taliban unfortunetaly (for them) stop the production of it when they came to power, leading to some problem with Western drug supply. Serioulsy, it's true, Le Monde Diplomatique revealed it like 5years ago with figures which prove that US encouraged opium production contrary to the taliban.
Revealed? I thought it was common knowledge that in Afghanistan the War on Drugs and the War on Terror came together in glorious harmony? I was under the impression that taking opium production away from the Taliban's control was a stated reason from the coalition for being in the country.
But it's one of many stated reasons, and I don't imagine for second so many countries would be on board with this coalition if simply stopping drug trading was the issue. And I don't buy the whole 'freeing Afghanistan' schtick any more than I did with Iraq.
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On May 02 2011 20:39 Cuddle wrote: So people in the US are celebrating someone being murdered? That's sad.
lol. even tho i'm some kind of humanist myself, Fuck. THAT. How about all the people he actually murdered?
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Omfg, I can't believe they actually finally got the bastard, good work!
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On May 02 2011 20:43 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:41 inermis wrote: fake announcement is a fake, pics or never happened, "hey look we killed osama ! too bad u cant see it cuz we threw his body into the ocean" convenient story, nothing more. http://i.imgur.com/R3Luq.pngPerhaps you should look through the thread before making useless statements.
wow dude, cant u see that on this so called "dead osama" picture he even has his mouth opened exactly the same way as on the other picture ? its a friggin photoshop, bad one.
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On May 02 2011 20:46 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:38 Imres wrote:On May 02 2011 20:36 The KY wrote:On May 02 2011 20:28 Butterz wrote: So now the American and Britian forces will leave Afghanistan or not?? Killing Osama Bin Laden is not the purpose of the war in Afghanistan...Al Qaeda =/= the Taliban. They had an alliance but in 2008 the Taliban severed ties. Then again I wonder if any of us can state what the purpose of the war in Afghanistan definitively is. Rarely is the actual reason for an invasion of a foreign country given. Opium. The taliban unfortunetaly (for them) stop the production of it when they came to power, leading to some problem with Western drug supply. Serioulsy, it's true, Le Monde Diplomatique revealed it like 5years ago with figures which prove that US encouraged opium production contrary to the taliban. Revealed? I thought it was common knowledge that in Afghanistan the War on Drugs and the War on Terror came together in glorious harmony? I was under the impression that taking opium production away from the Taliban's control was a stated reason from the coalition for being in the country. But it's one of many stated reasons, and I don't imagine for second so many countries would be on board with this coalition if simply stopping drug trading was the issue. And I don't buy the whole 'freeing Afghanistan' schtick any more than I did with Iraq. I fear that you don't understand my point. The western didn't try to stop the production of opium, they want it to continue contrary to the taliban.
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On May 02 2011 20:48 inermis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:43 KonohaFlash wrote:On May 02 2011 20:41 inermis wrote: fake announcement is a fake, pics or never happened, "hey look we killed osama ! too bad u cant see it cuz we threw his body into the ocean" convenient story, nothing more. http://i.imgur.com/R3Luq.pngPerhaps you should look through the thread before making useless statements. wow dude, cant u see that on this so called "dead osama" picture he even has his mouth opened exactly the same way as on the other picture ? its a friggin photoshop, bad one.
The man wanted pictures, I delivered what I saw in the thread. Not to mention I haven't seen that previous image before.
The pixels did look a bit off
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On May 02 2011 20:43 Gleve wrote:This made me laugh to so hard 
Honestly, this terrorists death can never live up to the hype Obama gave it.
Did you see the Hussein death? Great production, great coverage, great casting. Osama's death just isn't there yet, maybe in time.
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On May 02 2011 20:39 Cuddle wrote: So people in the US are celebrating someone being murdered? That's sad. So people in Europe are sad that a Terrorist died? That logic goes both ways.
User was warned for this post
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On May 02 2011 20:50 Fraidnot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:39 Cuddle wrote: So people in the US are celebrating someone being murdered? That's sad. So people in Europe are sad that a Terrorist died? That logic goes both ways.
Not sad. I think most of the people here don't care about it.. Just because his death won't change much.
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On May 02 2011 20:49 Imres wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:46 The KY wrote:On May 02 2011 20:38 Imres wrote:On May 02 2011 20:36 The KY wrote:On May 02 2011 20:28 Butterz wrote: So now the American and Britian forces will leave Afghanistan or not?? Killing Osama Bin Laden is not the purpose of the war in Afghanistan...Al Qaeda =/= the Taliban. They had an alliance but in 2008 the Taliban severed ties. Then again I wonder if any of us can state what the purpose of the war in Afghanistan definitively is. Rarely is the actual reason for an invasion of a foreign country given. Opium. The taliban unfortunetaly (for them) stop the production of it when they came to power, leading to some problem with Western drug supply. Serioulsy, it's true, Le Monde Diplomatique revealed it like 5years ago with figures which prove that US encouraged opium production contrary to the taliban. Revealed? I thought it was common knowledge that in Afghanistan the War on Drugs and the War on Terror came together in glorious harmony? I was under the impression that taking opium production away from the Taliban's control was a stated reason from the coalition for being in the country. But it's one of many stated reasons, and I don't imagine for second so many countries would be on board with this coalition if simply stopping drug trading was the issue. And I don't buy the whole 'freeing Afghanistan' schtick any more than I did with Iraq. I fear that you don't understand my point. The western didn't try to stop the production of opium, they want it to continue contrary to the taliban.
Then why did the U.S bomb 300tons worth of Opium seeds in Afghanistan?
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On May 02 2011 20:49 Imres wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:46 The KY wrote:On May 02 2011 20:38 Imres wrote:On May 02 2011 20:36 The KY wrote:On May 02 2011 20:28 Butterz wrote: So now the American and Britian forces will leave Afghanistan or not?? Killing Osama Bin Laden is not the purpose of the war in Afghanistan...Al Qaeda =/= the Taliban. They had an alliance but in 2008 the Taliban severed ties. Then again I wonder if any of us can state what the purpose of the war in Afghanistan definitively is. Rarely is the actual reason for an invasion of a foreign country given. Opium. The taliban unfortunetaly (for them) stop the production of it when they came to power, leading to some problem with Western drug supply. Serioulsy, it's true, Le Monde Diplomatique revealed it like 5years ago with figures which prove that US encouraged opium production contrary to the taliban. Revealed? I thought it was common knowledge that in Afghanistan the War on Drugs and the War on Terror came together in glorious harmony? I was under the impression that taking opium production away from the Taliban's control was a stated reason from the coalition for being in the country. But it's one of many stated reasons, and I don't imagine for second so many countries would be on board with this coalition if simply stopping drug trading was the issue. And I don't buy the whole 'freeing Afghanistan' schtick any more than I did with Iraq. I fear that you don't understand my point. The western didn't try to stop the production of opium, they want it to continue contrary to the taliban.
Oh I see.
...nah. Still don't buy it. Maybe if it was just the US but there's soldiers from 42 countries or something in the NATO force.
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On May 02 2011 20:50 Fraidnot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:39 Cuddle wrote: So people in the US are celebrating someone being murdered? That's sad. So people in Europe are sad that a Terrorist died? That logic goes both ways.
Being content about something or celebrating it is a whole different thing. Not celebrating doesn't mean you're sad about something.
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Apparntley on some Middle eastern new channels ive seen they said 2 women died 3 kids 4-5men and Osama,
if they really killed Osama it's not like Terrorism will stop and it's most likely will bring more hatred and lots of Terrorists will ofc want Revenge. Now i just saw this thread and the OP gives no source and i have no idea what page has the source etc of any image or story. So I apologize if anyone comes and attacks me with " HEY its on page x"
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