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Keep it civil guys. Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally. Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan. This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death. | ||
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CAPSLOCKED
563 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:15 ImFromPortugal wrote: he said in a interview years ago that he wasnt behind the attacks... aww you took the troll's bait=( http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/episodes/s10e09-mystery-of-the-urinal-deuce ^very fitting episode considering some people in this thread | ||
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DorN
Germany90 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:15 Ender985 wrote: Very convenient. Buried at sea, so no proof can be given. Well they burried him in the sea for a reason. Otherwise his grave would become a mekka for extremists. The allies did the same with Hitler. (Not at sea but they never said where he was burried) | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:14 zatic wrote: No they would not. Please. Even if that nuke Al quaida is babbling about blows up in Munich German's will ask for an faster exit out of nuclear power rather than for the death of the attackers. And I am only half joking. Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation. Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme. Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany. | ||
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Absentia
United Kingdom973 Posts
Though it is unlikely that Bin Laden's death will substantially reduce the threat/prevalence of extremist terrorism, I hope that it will at least provide some peace to the victims of the 'War on Terror' - both US and others alike. | ||
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Imres
515 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:18 vyyye wrote: Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation. Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme. Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany. WW2 had a deep effect on Germany and its culture, but I think it's an exeption, in France the reactions would be the same... | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9011 Posts
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zeru
8156 Posts
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DoXa
Switzerland1448 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:21 CoR wrote: about obama you can say now "YES HE CAN" (kill osama) or YES HE CAN (win the elections 2012) My only concern is, that this whole story will backfire if only the slightest thing is a lie or Al Qaeda will be sucessful with their revenge. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:17 partisan wrote: There are tapes of him bragging about the attacks, where in gods name do you people find this stuff. Wikipedia... Osama bin Laden statements after 9/11 The FBI lists bin Laden as one of the "10 Most Wanted" in connection with several incidents including the USS Cole bombing and the 1998 United States embassy bombings in East Africa. The FBI's "FBI Most Wanted Terrorists" poster does not specifically hang responsibility for 9/11 on bin Laden, instead it only states "Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."[56] Messages issued by bin Laden after September 11, 2001 praised the attacks, and explained their motivation while at first denying any involvement.[57] On September 16, 2001, an Al Jazeera news presenter read a message purportedly signed by Osama bin Laden, in which the following words were stated: I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation.[58][59][60] In an interview with Osama bin Laden, published in the Pakistani newspaper Ummat Karachi on September 28, 2001, he stated: "I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act."[61] There was reportedly no way to prove the e-mail published in Pakistan came from bin Laden. The Taliban denied he had access to any communications.[62][63] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4c7CesfM_9EJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks cnn&cd=1&hl=pt-PT&ct=clnk&gl=pt&source=www.google.pt | ||
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Cubu
1171 Posts
We all knew this when donald trump got owned by obama's speech (the jokes about his birth and such). | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
[QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:10 GiantEnemyCrab wrote: [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:06 Electric.Jesus wrote: Could we please stop the Hitler comparison? This is totally stupid for two reasons: a) compared to Hitler Bin Laden was only a minor Pain in the ass. Sure, he killed 3.000 people in the US which is a vicious crime and a human tragedy. But lets face it, Hitler had a whole nation and several allied nations behind him which allowed him to produce death tolls in the millions. Whereas a terrorist can only create the fear of killing people on a grander scale, a tyrant leader of a powerful nation can actually do it. b) Hitlers death was a result of Germany and its allies losing the war. He killed himself because all was lost for the Axis. This is not the case with Bin Laden; his network still exists. This is also the reaons why some people here correctly point out that celebrating Hitler's death was essentially celebrating the end of the war, since Hitler's death was symbolic for that. Bin Ladens death, however, is not equivalent to victory over Al-quaeda (even if the media want to convince you of the oppsite).[/QUOTE] and we knew hitler was 100% behind the death at the jews. [/QUOTE] That is not even vaguely true. Ever heard of Heinrich Himmler, Goring, Reinhard Heydrich? [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:15 Ender985 wrote: Very convenient. Buried at sea, so no proof can be given. Plus, a lot of contradictory information: he was killed by a shot in the head when he was 'resisting', but the attack was conducted by 2 helicopters? And one of the 2 went down but 'no american was harmed'? And all this happened on friday, but today he has already beed buried (dumped) to the sea? Given that we have not seen any image of him for the last 5 years, I give much more credit to the reports that he died of tuberculosis back in 2003.[/QUOTE] It makes little sense to fake the killing of Bin Laden right now. What advantage does it give to anyone? (P.S. I doubt that the attack was conducted by two lone helicopters and no ground force. Does it say that?) EDIT: can't seem to fix quotations...wtf | ||
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Butterz
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Grettin
42381 Posts
Good job i would say. Sadly i woke up too late to witness the first news out there.  | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
[QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:15 ImFromPortugal wrote: [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:10 GiantEnemyCrab wrote: [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:06 Electric.Jesus wrote: Could we please stop the Hitler comparison? This is totally stupid for two reasons: a) compared to Hitler Bin Laden was only a minor Pain in the ass. Sure, he killed 3.000 people in the US which is a vicious crime and a human tragedy. But lets face it, Hitler had a whole nation and several allied nations behind him which allowed him to produce death tolls in the millions. Whereas a terrorist can only create the fear of killing people on a grander scale, a tyrant leader of a powerful nation can actually do it. b) Hitlers death was a result of Germany and its allies losing the war. He killed himself because all was lost for the Axis. This is not the case with Bin Laden; his network still exists. This is also the reaons why some people here correctly point out that celebrating Hitler's death was essentially celebrating the end of the war, since Hitler's death was symbolic for that. Bin Ladens death, however, is not equivalent to victory over Al-quaeda (even if the media want to convince you of the oppsite).[/QUOTE] and we knew hitler was 100% behind the death at the jews. [/QUOTE] That is not even vaguely true. Ever heard of Heinrich Himmler, Goring, Reinhard Heydrich? [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:15 Ender985 wrote: Very convenient. Buried at sea, so no proof can be given. Plus, a lot of contradictory information: he was killed by a shot in the head when he was 'resisting', but the attack was conducted by 2 helicopters? And one of the 2 went down but 'no american was harmed'? And all this happened on friday, but today he has already beed buried (dumped) to the sea? Given that we have not seen any image of him for the last 5 years, I give much more credit to the reports that he died of tuberculosis back in 2003.[/QUOTE] It makes little sense to fake the killing of Bin Laden right now. What advantage does it give to anyone? (P.S. I doubt that the attack was conducted by two lone helicopters and no ground force. Does it say that?)[/QUOTE] Leaves Obama in a stronger position. Then again this conspiracy theory is as retarded as all the others. | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:14 zatic wrote: No they would not. Please. Even if that nuke Al quaida is babbling about blows up in Munich German's will ask for an faster exit out of nuclear power rather than for the death of the attackers. And I am only half joking. People aren't celebrating. They're happy.. that's all. To say your country wouldn't be happy AT ALL is ridiculously biased and stupid. Good night. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
[QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:28 The KY wrote: [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:15 ImFromPortugal wrote: [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:10 GiantEnemyCrab wrote: [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:06 Electric.Jesus wrote: Could we please stop the Hitler comparison? This is totally stupid for two reasons: a) compared to Hitler Bin Laden was only a minor Pain in the ass. Sure, he killed 3.000 people in the US which is a vicious crime and a human tragedy. But lets face it, Hitler had a whole nation and several allied nations behind him which allowed him to produce death tolls in the millions. Whereas a terrorist can only create the fear of killing people on a grander scale, a tyrant leader of a powerful nation can actually do it. b) Hitlers death was a result of Germany and its allies losing the war. He killed himself because all was lost for the Axis. This is not the case with Bin Laden; his network still exists. This is also the reaons why some people here correctly point out that celebrating Hitler's death was essentially celebrating the end of the war, since Hitler's death was symbolic for that. Bin Ladens death, however, is not equivalent to victory over Al-quaeda (even if the media want to convince you of the oppsite).[/QUOTE] and we knew hitler was 100% behind the death at the jews. [/QUOTE] That is not even vaguely true. Ever heard of Heinrich Himmler, Goring, Reinhard Heydrich? [QUOTE]On May 02 2011 20:15 Ender985 wrote: Very convenient. Buried at sea, so no proof can be given. Plus, a lot of contradictory information: he was killed by a shot in the head when he was 'resisting', but the attack was conducted by 2 helicopters? And one of the 2 went down but 'no american was harmed'? And all this happened on friday, but today he has already beed buried (dumped) to the sea? Given that we have not seen any image of him for the last 5 years, I give much more credit to the reports that he died of tuberculosis back in 2003.[/QUOTE] It makes little sense to fake the killing of Bin Laden right now. What advantage does it give to anyone? (P.S. I doubt that the attack was conducted by two lone helicopters and no ground force. Does it say that?)[/QUOTE] Leaves Obama in a stronger position. Then again this conspiracy theory is as retarded as all the others.[/QUOTE] If Obama wanted to fake Bin Laden's death, now is not the time. Any poll boost he gets from this will be significantly reduced by the time of the 2012 election. | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:18 vyyye wrote: Based on this thread I more than half believe you. Germans in particular seem to be very much against celebrations, death of Osama.. Well, the whole situation. Funny how different cultures are and how much they affect the people's views, even neighbouring nations aren't as extreme. Solely based on this thread, I'm obviously implying I'm an expert on Germany. Germans are very much against America, is how I would put it. €dit: Don't mean to generalize, not all of them of course. But the amount of anti-american racism in Germany is disturbing. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:29 vyyye wrote: Then again this conspiracy theory is as retarded as all the others. What in the definition of conspiracy theory implies that all objects of that criterion are retarded? Im sure you are well aware of many cospiracies that are well verified and documented, so why immediately reject those who have limited proof? | ||
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cdhstarbuck
Austria84 Posts
On May 02 2011 20:10 Awesomeness wrote: @cdhstarbuck Sorry, but saying that outlawing child pornography is compromising the (UN) human rights by any means is just ridiculous. The opposite is true. You should probably read them. What? I am fully aware that the human rights declaration by the UN is against child pornography. However I am not aware of an article that says that the government is allowed to censor media of any kind distributed on different mediums (which is what I was talking about). Maybe I am completely wrong there. If I am, just please tell me the article number and I withdraw that statement as an example of "making exceptions is okay". Also I am fully aware that governments mostly ignore the declaration. My point was that not a lot of people say that they are against human rights altogether because they make exceptions. User was warned for this post | ||
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