On May 01 2011 06:26 Mastermind wrote: Unions are an outdated concept that are no longer needed to protect worker rights because their rights are already protected by laws that didnt exist when Unions were neede
Corporations usually shit on laws. What makes you think they wouldn't shit on workes despite the laws if it weren't by group unions and peer pressure?
This holiday is so silly. It was kinda useful like 100 years ago but now it's just outdated. In my experience it's just another excuse for some random 15-25 year olds to get drunk and bitch about stuff, even though most of them dont even work/have never worked. At least not manual labor.
In most western countries it just doesnt mean anything anymore.
What am i gonna do? Sit at home and play starcraft and tell anyone making any noise outside to shut up They always have some parade or party or whatever, silly people interrupting my starcraft gaming.
All I have to offer are the words of the inimitable Mark Steyn, at the time commentating about the London student riots:
But I found it more poignant earlier in the day when I went to a favorite coffee place hoping to enjoy a beverage outside on a pleasant spring day as the massed ranks of British layabouts marched by. Instead, the Polish and Balkan baristas were hurriedly dragging in all the sidewalk tables and chairs before the Socialist Workers’ Party chaps showed up in search of projectiles. Nobody in the Socialist Workers’ Party actually works, which is one reason why it’s Mitteleuropeans frothing your coffee rather than any of the natives.
Devastating and hilarious, all at once.
(Cracks me up, to be honest, how college students think their tuition deserves to be paid nearly in full by the government.)
Ford has the same unions as GM etc. yet they did not ask for a bailout, bad management ruined the auto industry not Unions.
Union negotiation for ridiculous pension benefits had no effect on the companies finance? Sure, the management was shoddy, but both parties were complicit (oh, and neither should have gotten a bailout).
This shit is even worse in Turkey. So many brainless people go out on streets and try to act like they are actually doing something useful. Just because of this reason, i won't be able to go to the library because it will be closed due to obvious reasons. Also, there will be a lot of traffic jam everywhere, so going out if out of question. For that, i can't thank enough to turkish communists. Long story short, fuck 1st of may.
On May 01 2011 06:26 Mastermind wrote: Unions are an outdated concept that are no longer needed to protect worker rights because their rights are already protected by laws that didnt exist when Unions were neede
Corporations usually shit on laws. What makes you think they wouldn't shit on workes despite the laws if it weren't by group unions and peer pressure?
Corporations may shit on laws, but the unions can still be more detrimental to an individual employee than they're worth..... And in the process, screw the company over as well.
I've had a union hold me back..... So I ended up quitting.
On May 01 2011 06:12 thopol wrote: I have been a strong leftist for pretty much all of my life. I have never celebrated the holiday as such, with a march or anything, but I have been proud sharing my birthday with workers' day.
This is a day when everyone who is working for the man every day can imagine working for all of the other workers instead, providing things for others without being owned by someone who claims to provide that service.
It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
On May 01 2011 07:22 Catch]22 wrote: It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
Fuck unions.
They are also the ones making sure we have doctors at all. Gotta love unions.
On May 01 2011 07:22 Catch]22 wrote: It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
Fuck unions.
They are also the ones making sure we have doctors at all. Gotta love unions.
No they aren't. The doctors union is responsible for the interests of people who are currently doctors, which means doing things to increase their wages, which they do by making sure there are LESS new doctors. Which means shittier healthcare for us in Sweden.
Our government has had several studies conducted that all pointed to the fact that we needed to increase the amount of alloted spaces on our educations for doctors, but the doctors union managed to throw a wrench in those plans to amp up doctor salaries.
On May 01 2011 07:22 Catch]22 wrote: It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
Fuck unions.
They are also the ones making sure we have doctors at all. Gotta love unions.
No they aren't. The doctors union is responsible for the interests of people who are currently doctors, which means doing things to increase their wages, which they do by making sure there are LESS new doctors. Which means shittier healthcare for us in Sweden.
Our government has had several studies conducted that all pointed to the fact that we needed to increase the amount of alloted spaces on our educations for doctors, but the doctors union managed to throw a wrench in those plans to amp up doctor salaries.
And noone would work as a doctor without the doctors union.
I know a lot of students who aim at being a doctor and I know a few nurses, all of them are super-pro unions and some of them even socialism. (I know this is really irrelevant but I still want to show you that your view on it is very misled by your own opinions on unions)
I'm not really a fan of unions as they have (in the UK and from the things people are saying here also the US) been misused by the union leaders (e.g. the leaders claiming that their own opinion was supported by all of their union's members) which completely went against the entire purpose of unions: stopping the proletariat, which goes far beyond manual labourers, getting fucked.
Unfortunately, within the ruthless capitalist systems endemic to most of the world unions are very necessary... just one more reason to get rid of capitalism I guess :p
On May 01 2011 07:22 Catch]22 wrote: It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
Fuck unions.
They are also the ones making sure we have doctors at all. Gotta love unions.
No they aren't. The doctors union is responsible for the interests of people who are currently doctors, which means doing things to increase their wages, which they do by making sure there are LESS new doctors. Which means shittier healthcare for us in Sweden.
Our government has had several studies conducted that all pointed to the fact that we needed to increase the amount of alloted spaces on our educations for doctors, but the doctors union managed to throw a wrench in those plans to amp up doctor salaries.
And noone would work as a doctor without the doctors union.
I know a lot of students who aim at being a doctor and I know a few nurses, all of them are super-pro unions and some of them even socialism. (I know this is really irrelevant but I still want to show you that your view on it is very misled by your own opinions on unions)
May 1st is a national holiday in China, people just take a day off and nothing drastic happens. Usually combined with the two days from weekend, people can go out relax bit or have a short visit to another city to see family and stuff.
On May 01 2011 07:22 Catch]22 wrote: It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
Fuck unions.
They are also the ones making sure we have doctors at all. Gotta love unions.
No they aren't. The doctors union is responsible for the interests of people who are currently doctors, which means doing things to increase their wages, which they do by making sure there are LESS new doctors. Which means shittier healthcare for us in Sweden.
Our government has had several studies conducted that all pointed to the fact that we needed to increase the amount of alloted spaces on our educations for doctors, but the doctors union managed to throw a wrench in those plans to amp up doctor salaries.
And noone would work as a doctor without the doctors union.
I know a lot of students who aim at being a doctor and I know a few nurses, all of them are super-pro unions and some of them even socialism. (I know this is really irrelevant but I still want to show you that your view on it is very misled by your own opinions on unions)
Hahahaha, what? You are so far from reality it is scaring me
On May 01 2011 07:22 Catch]22 wrote: It's actually a pretty well known fact in Sweden that the Doctor's Union in Sweden is who are responsible for the horribly long lines in the healthcare system by lobbying to restrict the number of doctors that graduate each year.
Fuck unions.
They are also the ones making sure we have doctors at all. Gotta love unions.
No they aren't. The doctors union is responsible for the interests of people who are currently doctors, which means doing things to increase their wages, which they do by making sure there are LESS new doctors. Which means shittier healthcare for us in Sweden.
Our government has had several studies conducted that all pointed to the fact that we needed to increase the amount of alloted spaces on our educations for doctors, but the doctors union managed to throw a wrench in those plans to amp up doctor salaries.
And noone would work as a doctor without the doctors union.
I know a lot of students who aim at being a doctor and I know a few nurses, all of them are super-pro unions and some of them even socialism. (I know this is really irrelevant but I still want to show you that your view on it is very misled by your own opinions on unions)
Hahahaha, what? You are so far from reality it is scaring me
If I dont have a union protecting me and my right for my payment then I will not work as a doctor that takes years of hard studying just for a shitty payment. Simple logic.
The western world is so proud of having exterminated concentration camps during 2nd world war and beyond. Provided healthy and thriving conditions even for the lowerest class to such an extend that there is no need for unions anymore.
But look!!!, the concentration camps are still here just under another name (EPZ) so it can be legal!!! Even more hypocrisy - its the western world who contribute to their spreading.
But thats the 3rd world. The EPZs cant possibly spread to the western world you may say.
But i tell you this, if they succesfully can remove unionism then they will be coming for you and your life will be sucked out of you and you will be making big money, however this time the money will never reach your pocket.
EPT
They always have some parade or party or whatever, silly people interrupting my starcraft gaming.
