On May 02 2011 23:37 Flaccid wrote: I live in uber-Conservative central Alberta, work in the natural resource sector and I'm going to do something today that I would have never imagined myself doing - I'm going to vote NDP.
This was a decision for which the process started roughly a year ago. For the first time, I found myself in a position where impending, controversial legislation was going to have a large negative impact on my life. For the first time I found myself contacting the Members of Parliament in my province looking for some explanation as to why this was happening.
It's nice to feel that democracy gives every citizen a voice but it becomes discouraging to find out how easy it is to go unheard when you finally have a reason to start screaming. I made some 20 calls, wrote some 20 letters and got a single response - from the leader of the NDP.
I disagree on a number of policies outlined in the NDP's platform, but what has become most important to me as I get older is voting for someone who actually gives a shit. And I don't think anyone can accuse the NDP of not giving a shit. The same cannot be said for the other parties and the other leaders.
I've followed the election closely and looked for any reason to cast a more traditional vote. Naturally, I haven't found one.
You my good sir are voicing the exact reasons why the NDP is second in the polls and has the best chance to defeat the conservative government this time around. Funny thing if the NDP does get a minority we wont be voting for another four years barring some major non-confidence vote.
On May 03 2011 01:38 garlicface wrote: Spoiled my ballot in the advanced voting. Wanted to vote Conservative, but didn't want to support the local Conservatives.
Thats awesome I love it when people spoil their ballots since it sends a political message without not voting which removes your voice entirely.
On May 03 2011 01:37 Warrior Madness wrote: That debate was fucking useless. I use http://openparliament.ca to keep track of my local mps voting history and recent statements in the house.
Wow, this is actually a great website. Thanks for sharing!
The Liberals and Conservatives had there chances already, time for the NDP to get theirs. If they fuck up then they will be just as good as the last 2 parties. I definitely am not voting for the Conservatives, lower our GST then force HST down our throats? You want to spy on my internet usage with your "lawful access" internet legislation? Osama Bin Laden is dead now apparently, are our troops coming back now? How much did you throw away during the retarded G8 and G20? 1 Billion? Not to mention the local Conservative ( or anyone at his office? ) is so fucking lazy he/they cant respond to any of the 4 emails I sent him/them when I found out Bell Canada as going to be allowed to charge UBB ( Usage Based billing - 25 GB cap ) on wholesale internet services ( I am with Primus - Unlimited cap ). Go away Harper!
On May 03 2011 02:59 gold_ wrote: The Liberals and Conservatives had there chances already, time for the NDP to get theirs. If they fuck up then they will be just as good as the last 2 parties. I definitely am not voting for the Conservatives, lower our GST then force HST down our throats? You want to spy on my internet usage with your "lawful access" internet legislation? Osama Bin Laden is dead now apparently, are our troops coming back now? How much did you throw away during the retarded G8 and G20? 1 Billion? Not to mention the local Conservative ( or anyone at his office? ) is so fucking lazy he/they cant respond to any of the 4 emails I sent him/them when I found out Bell Canada as going to be allowed to charge UBB ( Usage Based billing - 25 GB cap ) on wholesale internet services ( I am with Primus - Unlimited cap ). Go away Harper!
Tell me more yo! I know nothing about politics and need to vote in less than a few hours. Seems like i wont vote conservative although conservative being the leader in past few years seems like it hasnt impacted my life at all o_o
-Currently I am going for a BA in Crim and tuition is starting to become an outrageous amount for young people who wish to further themselves intellectually and I find that with all the rising costs that less and less people will go and become higher educated. While looking up information on each parties platforms I found that NDP by the looks of it is going to directly attack this issue and attempt to lower costs of tuition.
-Secondly, I find that the Torie approach to longer criminal sentences is not the right thing to do. (Prime example is the USA). We need to as a country develop from the ground up and further bring the standard of living up! By doing this you will in a sense make people less likely have to need to commit crimes to support their living means. (I could write a 30 page essay how exactly how this goes around and effects us but this is the just of it). I really like the NDP's plan of action to help the lower means of people to bring them up socially, to give them a chance like other citizens.
Voting is a really fucking hard thing to do because there are so many things to look at and really becomes difficult because your attempting to choose your countries fate for not only the next 4 years but also everything they enact during that time which is have harsh consequences in the long term. While I may be voting NDP all i can really ask for is for all Canadians to read up on the political parties and just spend that 10 minutes and go out and vote.. It's really sad when later on we find out only 35 or so percent go out and vote..
Anyways lol, I don't wanna get into a big long essay but everyone in Canada who reads this, get your voice heard! It really can matter and as a citizen of this fucking awesome country, you should really honor it by placing a vote whether its for NDP, Tories, Libs, Green, Maxs, or even an independent... Every vote matters!
On May 03 2011 02:59 gold_ wrote: The Liberals and Conservatives had there chances already, time for the NDP to get theirs. If they fuck up then they will be just as good as the last 2 parties. I definitely am not voting for the Conservatives, lower our GST then force HST down our throats? You want to spy on my internet usage with your "lawful access" internet legislation? Osama Bin Laden is dead now apparently, are our troops coming back now? How much did you throw away during the retarded G8 and G20? 1 Billion? Not to mention the local Conservative ( or anyone at his office? ) is so fucking lazy he/they cant respond to any of the 4 emails I sent him/them when I found out Bell Canada as going to be allowed to charge UBB ( Usage Based billing - 25 GB cap ) on wholesale internet services ( I am with Primus - Unlimited cap ). Go away Harper!
Tell me more yo! I know nothing about politics and need to vote in less than a few hours. Seems like i wont vote conservative although conservative being the leader in past few years seems like it hasnt impacted my life at all o_o
Okay, if you want us to tell you who to vote for:
* The Liberals haven't had a cohesive platform since the mid-90s. They're the party that attracts career public servants and champions of the status-quo, since they still have yet to abandon their self-image as the natural party of government. Every Liberal candidate in the last decade has run as a Liberal because they figured it was an easy ticket to Ottawa.
* The Conservatives still have a backbone of fiscally responsible, small-government-minded red tories, but Harper and the Reform set are taking credit for all of their work and will use it to push a social conservative agenda of mandatory minimum sentences, more jails, more military intervention and painting anyone who disagress with them as socialists or separatists.
* The NDP have not had to resort to mudslinging or lies because everyone's already pissed off with the Libs and Cons. All Jack has had to do is sit back on his cane, play the senior, pension and HST cards and watch all the young progressives in Quebec swarm into his party because they don't give a shit about separation.
* The Green party's chances died when May didn't get in the debates. Sad, but true.
* The Bloc will win where there are enough old Quebecers who believe in separation, but their power is diminishing. The NDP are basically promising the same stuff, but on a national scale!
On May 03 2011 02:59 gold_ wrote: The Liberals and Conservatives had there chances already, time for the NDP to get theirs. If they fuck up then they will be just as good as the last 2 parties. I definitely am not voting for the Conservatives, lower our GST then force HST down our throats? You want to spy on my internet usage with your "lawful access" internet legislation? Osama Bin Laden is dead now apparently, are our troops coming back now? How much did you throw away during the retarded G8 and G20? 1 Billion? Not to mention the local Conservative ( or anyone at his office? ) is so fucking lazy he/they cant respond to any of the 4 emails I sent him/them when I found out Bell Canada as going to be allowed to charge UBB ( Usage Based billing - 25 GB cap ) on wholesale internet services ( I am with Primus - Unlimited cap ). Go away Harper!
Tell me more yo! I know nothing about politics and need to vote in less than a few hours. Seems like i wont vote conservative although conservative being the leader in past few years seems like it hasnt impacted my life at all o_o
LOL, I am not sure what to tell you. I am not going to sit here and tell you what to vote. That being said, if you want to know about digital policys, you can check out openmedia.ca. Although the Conservatives where to lazy to respond to them about there policy, just saying. Also if they get a majority government they will pass a "lawful access" internet legislation which means if they want to spy on you they can, no warrant needed. No privacy for you! =]
On May 03 2011 03:21 Shelke14 wrote: I voted NDP because......
-Currently I am going for a BA in Crim and tuition is starting to become an outrageous amount for young people who wish to further themselves intellectually and I find that with all the rising costs that less and less people will go and become higher educated. While looking up information on each parties platforms I found that NDP by the looks of it is going to directly attack this issue and attempt to lower costs of tuition.
-Secondly, I find that the Torie approach to longer criminal sentences is not the right thing to do. (Prime example is the USA). We need to as a country develop from the ground up and further bring the standard of living up! By doing this you will in a sense make people less likely have to need to commit crimes to support their living means. (I could write a 30 page essay how exactly how this goes around and effects us but this is the just of it). I really like the NDP's plan of action to help the lower means of people to bring them up socially, to give them a chance like other citizens.
Voting is a really fucking hard thing to do because there are so many things to look at and really becomes difficult because your attempting to choose your countries fate for not only the next 4 years but also everything they enact during that time which is have harsh consequences in the long term. While I may be voting NDP all i can really ask for is for all Canadians to read up on the political parties and just spend that 10 minutes and go out and vote.. It's really sad when later on we find out only 35 or so percent go out and vote..
Anyways lol, I don't wanna get into a big long essay but everyone in Canada who reads this, get your voice heard! It really can matter and as a citizen of this fucking awesome country, you should really honor it by placing a vote whether its for NDP, Tories, Libs, Green, Maxs, or even an independent... Every vote matters!
Yeah i agree with shelke, voting is too hard cuz there are way too many things to consider and everything u want wont be promised by the party you're voting for (everything i just said is what i assume to be true cuz i never researched politics before XD) Well, i guess im going for NDP lawl
Wow, are Canadian politics that savage? Oh wait, we do that crap too in the US, exclude people from debates just because they might take a part of your vote or you don't like what they say (Ron Paul anyone?)
On May 03 2011 03:53 P3T3R wrote: Yeah i agree with shelke, voting is too hard cuz there are way too many things to consider and everything u want wont be promised by the party you're voting for (everything i just said is what i assume to be true cuz i never researched politics before XD) Well, i guess im going for NDP lawl
Why don't you go to their sites and look at their platforms? Each party has a downloadable PDF that's at least 20 pages long where they state their policies and compare them with the other parties'.
Then you can look at the site I linked above. Look up where your riding is, who your current MP is and look at what he's said in the house and more importantly the bills he's supported during his term. http://openparliament.ca http://howdtheyvote.ca
On May 03 2011 03:53 P3T3R wrote: Yeah i agree with shelke, voting is too hard cuz there are way too many things to consider and everything u want wont be promised by the party you're voting for (everything i just said is what i assume to be true cuz i never researched politics before XD) Well, i guess im going for NDP lawl
Why don't you go to their sites and look at their platforms? Each party has a downloadable PDF that's at least 20 pages long where they state their policies and compare them with the other parties'.
Then you can look at the site I linked above. Look up where your riding is, who your current MP is and look at what he's said in the house and more importantly the bills he's supported during his term. http://openparliament.ca
As someone who has followed politics intensively all my life and studies them in university I can vouch for the vote compass as being a pretty solid little tool. Some have accused it of liberal bias but when you look at their complaints and compare them to how the test was designed it becomes clear the claims are baseless.
Voted NDP. This election is the beginning of the end for the Liberal party, I hope they enjoyed the 20th century because they wont be anywhere near a majority government ever again.
On May 03 2011 04:03 Warrior Madness wrote: You can even go here http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/votecompass/ It's a questionnaire that roughly places you in a party depending on how you answer the survey. Doing these is a start.
I feel so cool getting the party I voted for in that survey. /flex
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