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On March 25 2011 12:47 Alchemyst wrote:
Was deferred from MIT, and expected a rejection because of my craptastic essays, but somehow got in. Pretty sure it was thanks to the art portfolio of Lego I sent in, lol.
Reall cool. Did you send the art portfolio after your deferral or before? At the top top schools, deferral is almost always a polite rejection.
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TIL everyone on TL does really well in school. This thread makes me feel so lazy.
It seems like US schools are so hard to get into. I basically slacked and skipped class most of high school and didn't have any extracurricular stuff and got into engineering at UofT here in Canada which is a decent school here. I've been pretty lazy all of university and only had a GPA barely over 2 but I'm only going to have about $25k in debt when I graduate in a year with 4 years of school plus a year of exchange where I dropped out and just traveled. It's so easy to get free money here from grants and such.
Maybe some of you should apply to Canadian schools? Seems like it's way easier to get into. Oh but I guess it's too late for September.
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I got a 1420 on my SAT...back when a 1420 was actually a pretty decent score!
This numbers all seem very important pre-college, but once you get into a school they become meaningless. I'm applying to medical schools and not a single one asked what my SAT scores were, how many AP's I took or what my high school GPA was. (Of course there are different tests to take for graduate programs).
The reason I say this is not to disparage hard work in high school, but to let everyone who doesn't have an excellent high school "resume" know that college will give them another shot - so make the best of it!
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Why do all the Asians have insane GPA/score reports?
Can someone give a detailed-enough response for me please?
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On March 25 2011 13:14 Keitzer wrote:
Why do all the Asians have insane GPA/score reports?
Can someone give a detailed-enough response for me please?
Because we work harder on average. I don't know how detailed it has to get. If you have a decent IQ above 110, spends the time, you will be able to get 2000+ SAT.
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I've heard that most schools just look at unweighted because of the strange differences between schools on weighting. I have a friend whose school actually gives +/-'s, so an A+ would have a different GPA than a A. It was the first time I heard of such a thing.
On March 25 2011 13:02 feanor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 12:59 Blisse wrote:
What do American high school marks mean in Canada? O; And what's the difference between Universities and Colleges? As far as I know, I've only applied to universities? Basically Universities are larger and a collection of colleges that specialize in various things, IE your University will have a school of Business
Huh, didn't know that. So colleges make up a university sometimes. Yet in the U.S. there are some single schools that are named ____ college. Seems really arbitary.
On March 25 2011 13:03 cskalias.pbe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 12:47 Alchemyst wrote:
Was deferred from MIT, and expected a rejection because of my craptastic essays, but somehow got in. Pretty sure it was thanks to the art portfolio of Lego I sent in, lol. Reall cool. Did you send the art portfolio after your deferral or before? At the top top schools, deferral is almost always a polite rejection.
Thanks! I sent it before the deferral. After deferral I didn't send in anything else, minus the midyear report; kinda gave up.
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Yeah what the hell. Why do Canadian Universities look so terrible compared to American ones. 98 average getting declined? Insane.
I've been working my average up since grade 9. It was 92 the last few years and I've finally pulled it up to 94. Aiming for 95 by the end of the year. Second term marks due today. You guys are total nonsense.
My reasoning for Asians working harder is because more of them are immigrants, and they realized that their parents sacrificed a lot to bring them overseas, so disappointing them is really not an option. I can't speak for South Asians though. Maybe some are just naturally more disciplined.
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On March 25 2011 13:16 Jombozeus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 13:14 Keitzer wrote:
Why do all the Asians have insane GPA/score reports?
Can someone give a detailed-enough response for me please? Because we work harder on average. I don't know how detailed it has to get. If you have a decent IQ above 110, spends the time, you will be able to get 2000+ SAT.
Although, many asians are lacking in the EC department.
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Best way to get into a top college in US is to have strong grades, high test scores, and some high achievement in an area. For example, if you make mop for math, a science olympiad traveling team, or are a sick athlete or were a national debate champion, on top of good grades you stand a pretty strong chance. And there are typically enough people like this to fill up a lot of spots in top schools, which makes it hard to get in if you dont have this type of profile.
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On March 25 2011 12:57 feanor1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 12:56 CPTBadAss wrote:
You crazy kids. How do you have a GPA that's more than 4.0?? They cheat. Any honors or AP course is graded on a 5.0 scale(A=5,B=4...), and then weight it into your overal gpa And almost every school will recalculate your GPA to standardize it with all their other apps. So if your school doesn't weight it it doesn't matter the school will do it for you
Oh so that's why everyone's GPA was so high. I'm doing IB and A is a 4.5, so I was like wtf b/c some people had >4.5 GPAs which quite frankly I thought was ridiculous.
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On March 25 2011 08:36 Navi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 08:30 Froadac wrote:On March 25 2011 08:29 Wire wrote:On March 25 2011 08:05 cerka wrote:
Acceptances:
University of Michigan
California Pyrotechnical Institute: San Luis Obispo
Southern Methodist University
UCSB
UCI
Rejected:
Washington University in Saint Louis
UCLA
UCSD
Waiting to hear back from:
Berkeley
Cornell University
Lehigh University
Vanderbilt University
Wesleyan University
Stats:
4.72 weighted HS GPA (Freshmen through Junior year)
2260 SAT
SAT II:
800 Math II
770 US History
740 English
And a ton of extra curricular activities, leadership, etc. Damn you didn't make WashU? I'm there right now and my GPA is below yours lol 4.21. SAT better tho 2300. GL on Berkeley. I've always been a strong believer of the LA/Berkeley Tradeoff. If LA rejected you you just might get Berkeley There is something you aren't telling us. You'd get into washington U if you really had all this leadership stuff, etc. well that's one helluva sassy way to put it lol from what i hear wash u loves to accept a lot of their early application peeps and waitlist / reject a lot of the rest (the people who apply early usually have more motivation to go into wash u etc.) and thus their numbers (for # of students invited / # of students accepted) look really good on paper. kind of a dickish way to mess with the statistics imo
Freshman at WashU here. They had wayyyy more people accept offers than they expected last year, so the number of people admitted here is down 15% from last year even though the # of applicants increased by 15%. It also depends a lot on the major/area of study you applied for.
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I was accepted to CSUS (Sacramento State) earlier this month! Go Hornets!!
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Applied Early Decision to Carnegie Mellon, got accepted, so I'm going there. So happy! 
I also applied to USC's scholarship program (before my CMU decision) and got it, although its kinda stupid cos I can't even go there now hehe.
Stats:
IB Diploma student, 41 predicted
3.85 unweighted, 4.05 weighted
SAT: 2110 first try, 2320 second
780 Physics, 800 Math II, 720 US History
APs: 4 US History, 5 Calc AB, 5 Microecon
ECs: Varsity rugby, student council
Rec letters: I think they were pretty good, although theres no way of knowing for sure
etc,etc...
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On March 25 2011 12:43 Mailing wrote:
My question is...
Is it worth it to go to a super top tier University?
Sure places like Mudd have a high "graduate income", but you can get a good career making good money at almost any University if you put the work and time in... is 90k-120k a year as opposed to 50-60k a year worth throwing your entire age 15-30 experience away?
Not only that, but you basically HAVE to succeed in these schools, or you get out with massive dept and loans (over hundreds of thousands of dollars)?
I rank colleges/units as low/medium/high/top. I am 3 years into Uni at a mid level institution and am doing fine without massive stress or anything that I hear a lot of top uni students get..
Top tier universities are worth it in the sense that they can open up many more opportunities. In a tier 3 or tier 2 school, you won't be tossing your 15-30 experience away; in a tier 1 school, you can choose to toss your 15-30 experience away. I think that is the difference there. But of course there is a premium you have to pay on this choice, whether it is financial or time sacrificed in HS. When I was younger, it wasn't something I thought much about, but not that I've worked a few years, I've noticed that people do regard you different if you come from a tier 1 school. And by different, I mean both sides of it--admiration/respect as well as jealousy. Shrug, it is what it is.
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On March 25 2011 15:01 gchan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 12:43 Mailing wrote:
My question is...
Is it worth it to go to a super top tier University?
Sure places like Mudd have a high "graduate income", but you can get a good career making good money at almost any University if you put the work and time in... is 90k-120k a year as opposed to 50-60k a year worth throwing your entire age 15-30 experience away?
Not only that, but you basically HAVE to succeed in these schools, or you get out with massive dept and loans (over hundreds of thousands of dollars)?
I rank colleges/units as low/medium/high/top. I am 3 years into Uni at a mid level institution and am doing fine without massive stress or anything that I hear a lot of top uni students get.. Top tier universities are worth it in the sense that they can open up many more opportunities. In a tier 3 or tier 2 school, you won't be tossing your 15-30 experience away; in a tier 1 school, you can choose to toss your 15-30 experience away. I think that is the difference there. But of course there is a premium you have to pay on this choice, whether it is financial or time sacrificed in HS. When I was younger, it wasn't something I thought much about, but not that I've worked a few years, I've noticed that people do regard you different if you come from a tier 1 school. And by different, I mean both sides of it--admiration/respect as well as jealousy. Shrug, it is what it is.
What is 15-30 experience, and what is a top tier school.
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On March 25 2011 15:24 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 15:01 gchan wrote:On March 25 2011 12:43 Mailing wrote:
My question is...
Is it worth it to go to a super top tier University?
Sure places like Mudd have a high "graduate income", but you can get a good career making good money at almost any University if you put the work and time in... is 90k-120k a year as opposed to 50-60k a year worth throwing your entire age 15-30 experience away?
Not only that, but you basically HAVE to succeed in these schools, or you get out with massive dept and loans (over hundreds of thousands of dollars)?
I rank colleges/units as low/medium/high/top. I am 3 years into Uni at a mid level institution and am doing fine without massive stress or anything that I hear a lot of top uni students get.. Top tier universities are worth it in the sense that they can open up many more opportunities. In a tier 3 or tier 2 school, you won't be tossing your 15-30 experience away; in a tier 1 school, you can choose to toss your 15-30 experience away. I think that is the difference there. But of course there is a premium you have to pay on this choice, whether it is financial or time sacrificed in HS. When I was younger, it wasn't something I thought much about, but not that I've worked a few years, I've noticed that people do regard you different if you come from a tier 1 school. And by different, I mean both sides of it--admiration/respect as well as jealousy. Shrug, it is what it is. What is 15-30 experience, and what is a top tier school.
15-30 experience is your life when you are 15-30 years old. He's saying that you can throw away your youth by staying shut inside studying and not doing anything "fun". A top tier school is a school that is considered among the most prestigious. Probably talking about U.S. Universities e.g. Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, etc
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still waiting for my private universities... got into UC Berkeley and other random UCs, but holding out. So many people getting rejected though I'm worried >.<
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dont go to berk, i hated it there
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I'm asian and I'm terrible, about third-tier in my school, if UCB/UCLA was 1st tier, and UCI/CalPoly was 2nd tier.
Probably going to American University in D.C. as a polysci major. Not too bad for my grades, they gave me a full ride ^^
Got rejected from UCI, UCD, CalPoly...still waiting for BU, but it seems like I'm grasping at straws here.
Sigh...I don't deserve much anyways. Haven't done well in school by my standards. Thought going to a top 40 HS in US would help, but apparently it doesn't.
Best of luck to those of you guys who've achieved better, you guys really deserve it.
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in general if you're smart and a hard worker (and know what that actually means) you will do well. That said, there are some jobs that almost exclusively hire from top tier schools (HMPSY) right out of undergrad, especially in finance( private equity, venture capital, hedge funds).
There are a lot of professions though where undergrad hardly matters at all (law, medicine).
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