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I have a 2.6 GPA 180 out of 260 rank got a 32 on the ACT and am into UMD (university of minnisota duluth)
one of the captains of my schools FIRST team that went to nationals and placed in the top half there.
I applied to michigan tech and a couple other places and got in everywhere. but all in all I don't think its really that hard to get into a decent college in america it costs quite a bit is the real sticking point you can get scholarships to places if you got the grades or (being frank here) are of a minority poor or am female. I am none of these so I'm going to have to go to a good paying career even if I really don't like it. (my current girlfriend wants to be a social studies teacher so I might have to help her out to if we make it though college together)
a Bunch of my friends are even going to community college for 2 years to get all their generals done before transferring to a real university beacuse its a lot cheaper.
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Best of luck to all attending. I graduated last December, and I wish I was starting over again. The real world sucks. Enjoy your time.
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On March 26 2011 06:20 ScrubS wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the diffrence is between college and university? In Europe, ppl go to University (if ur smart) or some other, lower specialized education (such as becoming a elementary school teacher)
As far I can tell, there really is no major difference. But if I were to generalize (a lot), colleges tend to be smaller and also tend to be liberal arts focused. Even then, the term "college" is interchangeable with "university". For example, I couldn't really tell you why Dartmouth is a college while Brown is a university.
A long time back it would have been ridiculous in the 1600s to call Harvard a university because it started with just a few students and couldn't compare to Oxford/Cambridge in the least. The name kind of stuck around until much later and I guess the same is true for a lot of American colleges?
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On March 26 2011 06:34 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 06:20 ScrubS wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the diffrence is between college and university? In Europe, ppl go to University (if ur smart) or some other, lower specialized education (such as becoming a elementary school teacher) I believe the terms are interchangable, however some public universities I believe are more of the level of ''HBO'' in our country. Either way, I was wondering what does regents accepted/rejected or regents mean?
In the US they're largely interchangeable. Technically I believe the difference is that universities offer post-graduate degrees or have multiple separate "colleges" within them (college of sciences, college of law, etc.). Places that use "college" tend to be smaller, but there are plenty of colleges that are extremely prestigious. This is unique to the US, I believe - everywhere else "college" is much less prestigious.
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On March 26 2011 06:38 jahre wrote:
Best of luck to all attending. I graduated last December, and I wish I was starting over again. The real world sucks. Enjoy your time.
Major?
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BA in English
Minors in History/Creative Writing
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In the united states, you typically use "college" to refer to going into higher education at all - example, a highschool graduate would say "next fall I am going to college" regardless of the actual school they're attending. You don't really hear people say "I am going to University"
As far as the actual distinction, which institution uses which name, as far as I can tell, it's about the size. For example, classes at Cornell University are separated into seven more specific areas, named "colleges" that function as independant units, choosing which students to accept, which courses to offer, which professors teach those courses, offering advising and other academic programs, etc. The colleges together make up the University that is Cornell. Many other schools operate by this system, including the one I attend. My twin sister however, attends a much smaller school than I do (literally about 1/6th the enrollment) that does not hold this separation. It uses the title of college.
tl;dr - university is a conglomeration of multiple "sub units" - these sub units are called colleges, but colleges can also be separate, not part of a university.
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i thought college was just an american thing  down here in New Zealand we use college somewhat interchangeably with high school (e.g. i went to Saint Kentigern College for year 9-13). We use University, uni or varsity for higher education, or we just call it tertiary education
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Accepted:
UC San Diego
UC Irvine
UC LA
Rejected:
UC Berkeley
USC
Waiting:
University of Pennsylvania
SAT: 2170
Korean w/ Listening: 790
Math 2: 750
Chemistry: 750
4.34 Weighted GPA, 3.9 Unweighted
Mostly 3's on a bunch of AP's... :\
Major: Chem E.
fffffffuuuuuu lost all hope of getting into Penn... =(
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On March 25 2011 12:43 Mailing wrote:
My question is...
Is it worth it to go to a super top tier University?
Sure places like Mudd have a high "graduate income", but you can get a good career making good money at almost any University if you put the work and time in... is 90k-120k a year as opposed to 50-60k a year worth throwing your entire age 15-30 experience away?
Not only that, but you basically HAVE to succeed in these schools, or you get out with massive dept and loans (over hundreds of thousands of dollars)?
I rank colleges/units as low/medium/high/top. I am 3 years into Uni at a mid level institution and am doing fine without massive stress or anything that I hear a lot of top uni students get..
It's worth it if you're getting a job. It's less important if you're going to grad school
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Congrats to everyone getting into any school! It already puts you in a very high category in comparison to the rest of the world. Every college is different, but please don't go to college (esp. top schools) for the sole purpose of getting a degree, or just so you can leave and go to graduate school (or even worse.... just so you can flaunt your resume). You'll either find things impossibly hard or find other destructive ways to dump your stress. You are not your grades, your achievements, your failures, your school, or your resume - you are you. Find out what you like, work hard, and grow up. This coming from second-year junior applying to grad school next year who nearly did exactly that.
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On March 26 2011 06:37 sermokala wrote:
I applied to michigan tech and a couple other places and got in everywhere. but all in all I don't think its really that hard to get into a decent college in america it costs quite a bit is the real sticking point you can get scholarships to places if you got the grades or (being frank here) are of a minority poor or am female. I am none of these so I'm going to have to go to a good paying career even if I really don't like it. (my current girlfriend wants to be a social studies teacher so I might have to help her out to if we make it though college together)
it depends on your definition of "decent" college
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On March 26 2011 06:59 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 12:43 Mailing wrote:
My question is...
Is it worth it to go to a super top tier University?
Sure places like Mudd have a high "graduate income", but you can get a good career making good money at almost any University if you put the work and time in... is 90k-120k a year as opposed to 50-60k a year worth throwing your entire age 15-30 experience away?
Not only that, but you basically HAVE to succeed in these schools, or you get out with massive dept and loans (over hundreds of thousands of dollars)?
I rank colleges/units as low/medium/high/top. I am 3 years into Uni at a mid level institution and am doing fine without massive stress or anything that I hear a lot of top uni students get.. It's worth it if you're getting a job. It's less important if you're going to grad school
If you know that you want to go to grad school it's probably just as important to go to a top university. As someone who is in grad school now, and has seen many people go through the application process, I can say that students from top schools have a huge advantage when it comes to grad admissions at other top schools.
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Personally, I think in the end it is better go to a cheaper state university unless you really know what you want to do after undergrad. You can always transfer to another school. I mean..... having a B.S. and not knowing what to do with it after is just pointless.
I would however suggest going to a bigger university with a lot of programs, so you can pick and choose later when really deciding on what you want to major in.
Professional schools outside that of just going to grad school will take into account criteria that goes beyond just what school you come from. A specific major won't be required entering them. So GPA and such will vary from what kind of major you have had even within the same school.
In the real world... your boss won't care about your GPA or what class you took. If you can't get the job done, they will find someone else better to handle that position regardless of how awesome you look on paper.
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On March 26 2011 06:59 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 12:43 Mailing wrote:
My question is...
Is it worth it to go to a super top tier University?
Sure places like Mudd have a high "graduate income", but you can get a good career making good money at almost any University if you put the work and time in... is 90k-120k a year as opposed to 50-60k a year worth throwing your entire age 15-30 experience away?
Not only that, but you basically HAVE to succeed in these schools, or you get out with massive dept and loans (over hundreds of thousands of dollars)?
I rank colleges/units as low/medium/high/top. I am 3 years into Uni at a mid level institution and am doing fine without massive stress or anything that I hear a lot of top uni students get.. It's worth it if you're getting a job. It's less important if you're going to grad school
Of course, it's easier to get into, say, stanford grad school if you went to stanford.
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Probably means nothing to you crazy scholars, but I got into Engineering Science at the University of Toronto. Waiting for response from University of Waterloo though under Software Engineering.
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i don't think you guys need to tell milkis about going to a strong undergrad school lol
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4.1366 GPA (weighted)
2210 SAT
-740 Reading
-690 Math
-780 Writing
720 SAT II Biology
780 SAT II US History (would have been higher, but I took it ~9 months after my history class ended)
690 SAT II Literature
5 US History AP Exam
4 Chemistry AP Exam
--> Taking AP Physics, European History, and Literature this year
National Honor Society
Basketball
Track
Accepted:
Providence College
Hamilton College
Waitlisted:
Middlebury College
Colby College
Waiting:
Amherst College
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On March 26 2011 07:36 LosingID8 wrote:
i don't think you guys need to tell milkis about going to a strong undergrad school lol
Where did Milkis go to school again, I forget -.-
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4.0 GPA UW
2400 SAT (one sitting)
790 Physics
800 Math 2
790 Literature
5's on: Physics B, Chem, Calc BC, World History, US History, Lang
Science Olympiad president (we're decent...)
Baller violinist
Community service organizations and stuff
Music organizations and stuff
Some other stuff
Accepted to: University of Chicago
Likely letters from: University of Pennsylvania, Duke
Rejected from: MIT (yeah, well, I don't like you anyway)
Waiting for: Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Some others, but I stopped caring about them after Penn. =/
I'm a C- Protoss.
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