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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 19:26:08
March 17 2011 17:44 GMT
#1
http://www.examiner.com/cognitive-science-in-national/red-teams-win-more-than-blue-online-video-games

I don't have access to the sources referenced in the articles but this seems interesting. I've never really noticed a difference when playing team fortress 2 by being on red vs blue but I've always loved defense more than offense in TF2 on payload maps.

It interested me since GSL is (almost) always red vs blue, however, I have no idea whether that would make a difference in something that's not a twitch shooter from the summary written in the article.

I don't know if it makes a difference in real life but I live in canada so red ftw.

Edit:::: Adding more info

On March 18 2011 04:25 Lmui wrote:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v435/n7040/full/435293a.html

Found a little bit more of an article.

Apparently it'll make a small but measurable difference across ALL categories of real life sports. The advantage that red has over any colour can't be ignored I think. Being able to associate yourself with red and have the other guy see the opposition as red could probably make a difference in aggression of players in gsl however small that difference might be.

Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
March 17 2011 17:47 GMT
#2
On March 18 2011 02:44 Lmui wrote:

I don't know if it makes a difference in real life but I live in canada so red ftw.


Red is also the color of the communist regime.
It is what it is...
Facedriller
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden275 Posts
March 17 2011 17:49 GMT
#3
Red is the colour for aggression and blue is the colour for depression, i see the picture now.
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Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
March 17 2011 17:50 GMT
#4
uh, if theres something to this.. They should do purple and green!
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Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 17:52:30
March 17 2011 17:50 GMT
#5
I think it's probably just a coincidence... But in Starcraft I always keep my color as green, enemies as red, and allies as yellow...it makes things a lot easier to see on the mini map because, fr some reason, a red blip just jumps out at me.

Edit: stupid phone auto correct
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
March 17 2011 17:51 GMT
#6
Most players play as green and opponent always red(that mode you select near the minimap. I don't think your article can be verified for sc2.
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4531 Posts
March 17 2011 17:53 GMT
#7
I always thought this. Red's just a better colour.
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Zavi_
Profile Joined October 2010
100 Posts
March 17 2011 17:55 GMT
#8
On a related note, in world of warcraft, horde has a slight (note the word slight) winning advantage over alliance in every battleground but 1. As you might know, horde is red, alliance is blue.

just throwing it out here...
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 17:56:58
March 17 2011 17:55 GMT
#9
Everything can be proven with statistics.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 17 2011 17:55 GMT
#10
Red is such a terrible color. I'd pick blue any day.
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Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
March 17 2011 17:58 GMT
#11
French and Indian War anyone? Even though red lost, blue troops still proved to be superior...at least when everything was small.
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
March 17 2011 17:58 GMT
#12
Pretty sure they made a survey that also showed that football teams wearing red jerseys had a statistically higher win-rate than other teams. Red is a magic color apparently.
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Laggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States385 Posts
March 17 2011 17:58 GMT
#13
On March 18 2011 02:51 Superouman wrote:
Most players play as green and opponent always red(that mode you select near the minimap. I don't think your article can be verified for sc2.

They are playing as red and blue but when they hit that button their colors change but they are still red and blue.
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Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
March 17 2011 17:58 GMT
#14
In Starcraft you can't make yourself red. You can only make your enemy red and put yourself at a disadvantage.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 18:05:18
March 17 2011 17:59 GMT
#15
By analyzing anonymous results from a publicly
available source, we found that the red team may
have an advantage over the blue team in multiplayer FPS games. We do not think that this could
simply be explained by a preference of better players for the red teams because (a) we only included results from contests involving the top players; (b)
a red winning advantage of similar magnitude was
observed in sporting contests where the red or blue
uniforms were randomly assigned;
and (c) in a recent study about how FPS players perceive the
game situations, no preference for team color was
reported.
3


Basically, in Unreal Tournament 2004 you get to choose Red or Blue (someone confirm this please). The author is saying this does not matter because there are similar studies which colours are randomly assigned. Other than this section I think the paper is pretty solid (the p-value for the test is <0.00001

EDIT: For something that is less sketchy, you can also try to read Hill and Barton (2005), which is published on Nature. The result is the same.
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insectoceanx
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States331 Posts
March 17 2011 17:59 GMT
#16
Because of how light works red is harder to see than blue at distance. This is why military vehicles travel at night with red lights.
Hadron.
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
March 17 2011 18:00 GMT
#17
On March 18 2011 02:47 Dance. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 02:44 Lmui wrote:

I don't know if it makes a difference in real life but I live in canada so red ftw.


Red is also the color of the communist regime.


And the republican party.
TheAldo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States214 Posts
March 17 2011 18:00 GMT
#18
Isn't red normally the higher seed in these games?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 17 2011 18:00 GMT
#19
On March 18 2011 02:58 prOxi.Beater wrote:
Pretty sure they made a survey that also showed that football teams wearing red jerseys had a statistically higher win-rate than other teams. Red is a magic color apparently.


has to do with color psychology. football stadiums typically have the away team's locker room painted light pink because it has a deflating effect on aggression. Similarly, the home locker rooms are usually a combination of red and black because these colors evoke aggression.
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
March 17 2011 18:05 GMT
#20
They did the exact same study with Olympic wrestling. There was even a thread about it on Tl years ago. Red boosts testosterone.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
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