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jeebuzzx
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada365 Posts
March 17 2011 18:06 GMT
#21
better red then dead
StateSC2
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)621 Posts
March 17 2011 18:07 GMT
#22
On March 18 2011 02:58 Ecrilon wrote:
In Starcraft you can't make yourself red. You can only make your enemy red and put yourself at a disadvantage.


Blizzard should patch this soon!
Fireblast!: "This guy is pointless and wonderful"
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
March 17 2011 18:08 GMT
#23
But quick question, aren't the Yankees blue and the Red Socks red?
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
March 17 2011 18:08 GMT
#24
de_dust2 is clearly a terrorist map! But I agree on the TF2 part, defending is waaay funnier.
StateSC2
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)621 Posts
March 17 2011 18:09 GMT
#25
On March 18 2011 03:08 Shiragaku wrote:
But quick question, aren't the Yankees blue and the Red Socks red?


They have been since 2004. ^^
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
March 17 2011 18:10 GMT
#26
On March 18 2011 03:08 Slakkoo wrote:
de_dust2 is clearly a terrorist map! But I agree on the TF2 part, defending is waaay funnier.

It's also significantly easier. You should see the map stats for defense vs offense on most of the maps.
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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 17 2011 18:11 GMT
#27
The study is complete nonsense.

First let's look at the possible explanations : "testosterone-driven domination" and "focusing on individual encounters". Good god, what a wash.

Then let's work our way back to "we observed only the top 10 deathmatch players". So did they actually account for which side they were playing on? Were they all clan members and thus on the same side? Possibly red? Can't you switch sides during TDM? Seeing nothing in the article here, maybe the original study has some info on how they tracked the players. Did they observe random TDMs?

I think a more likely explanation is that players prefer the red color and switch to red when they can, leaving the blue team undermanned until a new random guy joins, has to sit in blue, and eats the loss.



Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 17 2011 18:17 GMT
#28
On March 18 2011 03:11 Jinsho wrote:
The study is complete nonsense.

First let's look at the possible explanations : "testosterone-driven domination" and "focusing on individual encounters". Good god, what a wash.

Then let's work our way back to "we observed only the top 10 deathmatch players". So did they actually account for which side they were playing on? Were they all clan members and thus on the same side? Possibly red? Can't you switch sides during TDM? Seeing nothing in the article here, maybe the original study has some info on how they tracked the players. Did they observe random TDMs?

I think a more likely explanation is that players prefer the red color and switch to red when they can, leaving the blue team undermanned until a new random guy joins, has to sit in blue, and eats the loss.





Did you read some of the other studies? One of them is published in Nature.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 17 2011 18:21 GMT
#29
in halo 2 being the blue team was an advantage in team slayer because of the dark nature of most maps, and the dark purple scheme of the alien based maps meant you were slightly harder to see.

in objective games pre like the second game patch the red team had a massive advantage. red always attacked first, and if they did but the game was drawn, red was still awarded the win. if they failed to score, then blue score, red scored on their second attack, then blue failed - the game would be a tie even though blue scored first.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
March 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#30
Very strange, but I'm sure it's something psychological. It can't be anything else. It's probably some sort of chemical induced by red or blue?
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#31
This explains the old Bulls dynasty and further questions whether Michael Jordan was the GOAT in basketball. Maybe it was just the red all along?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#32
it seems kind of stupid that they had blue and red but also admitted that one side is defense and the other is offense. because blue and red are inherently different in play, it makes the study absolutely worthless
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Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
March 17 2011 18:28 GMT
#33
Noooo blue... :[
It is probably psychological...I don't believe the testosterone boosting and all those claims though, seems a bit farfetched and just doesn't seem possible.
Either way blue fighting!
End my suffering
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
March 17 2011 18:30 GMT
#34
That site is crazy ad-infested. :<

I usually don't trust anything that infested with ads, but the studies it links to seem very reputable, even if its own study is not.
NecroSaint
Profile Joined June 2010
England102 Posts
March 17 2011 18:32 GMT
#35
If there's any truth to it apart from coincidence, it will be because our eyes are naturally more sensitive to light closer to the red end of the light spectrum, so we see this much better than we see blues.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 17 2011 18:34 GMT
#36
Flash makes his opponents red. Doesn't seem to be hurting him too much.
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Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
March 17 2011 18:40 GMT
#37
Testosterone explanation seems pretty solid. There is also evidence that women are perceived to be more attractive when they wear red. (Link)
"Sir, the enemy has us sourrounded" - "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
March 17 2011 18:40 GMT
#38
On March 18 2011 02:51 Superouman wrote:
Most players play as green and opponent always red(that mode you select near the minimap. I don't think your article can be verified for sc2.

being red green colorblind is a bitch.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-17 18:41:28
March 17 2011 18:41 GMT
#39
On March 18 2011 03:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2011 03:11 Jinsho wrote:
The study is complete nonsense.

First let's look at the possible explanations : "testosterone-driven domination" and "focusing on individual encounters". Good god, what a wash.

Then let's work our way back to "we observed only the top 10 deathmatch players". So did they actually account for which side they were playing on? Were they all clan members and thus on the same side? Possibly red? Can't you switch sides during TDM? Seeing nothing in the article here, maybe the original study has some info on how they tracked the players. Did they observe random TDMs?

I think a more likely explanation is that players prefer the red color and switch to red when they can, leaving the blue team undermanned until a new random guy joins, has to sit in blue, and eats the loss.





Did you read some of the other studies? One of them is published in Nature.

OMFG Nature!!1
Well, here's another Nature article for you http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v437/n7063/full/nature04306.html where they show statistical significances from the same data pool (Olympia 2004) as the other nature article, and no red shirts.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 17 2011 18:42 GMT
#40
On March 18 2011 03:11 Jinsho wrote:
The study is complete nonsense.

First let's look at the possible explanations : "testosterone-driven domination" and "focusing on individual encounters". Good god, what a wash.

Then let's work our way back to "we observed only the top 10 deathmatch players". So did they actually account for which side they were playing on? Were they all clan members and thus on the same side? Possibly red? Can't you switch sides during TDM? Seeing nothing in the article here, maybe the original study has some info on how they tracked the players. Did they observe random TDMs?

I think a more likely explanation is that players prefer the red color and switch to red when they can, leaving the blue team undermanned until a new random guy joins, has to sit in blue, and eats the loss.


http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/cpb.2007.0122
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