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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
March 14 2011 18:10 GMT
#41
I can't understand people here saying that Casey went too far. I think it's totally justified. When I would get punched in the face, I'd snap too (except that I wouldn't be able to slam the little guy in the ground). And actually, he didn't snap, he stayed calm, sort of. But when the little guy continued, that's when he snapped.

He finished it with one blow, hope he broke the kids leg or something. Casey's probably sorry now and thinking that he went to far, that's the kind of guy he looks like.
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Almin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States583 Posts
March 14 2011 18:10 GMT
#42
On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.



I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!

I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.

Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#43
On March 15 2011 02:58 Danjoh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand your argument, you want him to beat the smaller kid up, wich he didn't, wich you think was too far?

Or are you implying that several punches to the kids face, maybe a few kicks to the chest would have been better, and less harmful?


He means that the slam was too risky, if you're going to defend yourself at school you're better off punching and/or kicking. People don't realize how easily you could kill someone with a body slam. Even when playing pretend wrestling plenty of kids have died from such moves.
The spice must flow
kidleader
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)233 Posts
March 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#44
Hope the little fuck got a nice scar. The problem, as seen in the video, is there exists a line of bigger and equally thick-headed bullies who Casey can't pick up willing to take revenge.
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SmokeMeat
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada7 Posts
March 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#45
I think most people are missing the point here... It's that violence, while understandable in this situation, is never the solution. It just creates more problems.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 18:16:01
March 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#46
I'm happy to see the little kid get absolutely owned

I'm also happy to see the little kid didn't experience severe head trauma from Casey's slam otherwise Casey and his family would have to deal with a lot more shit from Casey's act of self defense.

edit: I wonder if Casey has read Ender's Game.
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FreddYCooL
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden415 Posts
March 14 2011 18:13 GMT
#47
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.



I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!

I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.

Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.


In case you missed it the bullied kid was alone while the bully had several friends around, if casey had tried to start a fist fight he could have ended up being beaten by several opponents. Much better to do it the way he did
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 18:19:42
March 14 2011 18:13 GMT
#48
You don't go in sissy punching someone outnumbered. They gang up on you. You gotta show you mean business.

And when someone punches you, is it only acceptable to punch him back once? Some deluded notion of fairness. No it fucking isn't. Someone starts shit for no reason? Good reason - to deck that idiot. Casey actions seen in such a negative light by some of the posters here is the problem itself behind bullying.

Violence isn't the solution? Nah school actions are NOT the solution, else bullying wouldn't be so prevalent.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
March 14 2011 18:13 GMT
#49
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Anyone?

Served that little prick right.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
Hypnotikdel
Profile Joined April 2009
United States333 Posts
March 14 2011 18:14 GMT
#50
The little shit had it coming. I back Casey 100% on this. I disagree with the people saying just to punch or kick back. You don't know how many friends that little kid had off the screen of the camera. If Casey just fought back I guarantee you that the rest of his friends would have jumped Casey. Set an example next time they wont pick on people.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 18:15:11
March 14 2011 18:14 GMT
#51
Right on Casey. That little prick would've deserved much more than just a throw out. Fucking hate these clowns who act like that. Punching a guy in the face..

People who disagree with this shit doesn't really understand what this kids life must have been for years.

Hopefully they'll stop bullying him. Most likely not going to happen, but as long as he keeps kicking this little pricks ass(and the rest), right on i'd say.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
March 14 2011 18:15 GMT
#52
On March 15 2011 03:11 SmokeMeat wrote:
I think most people are missing the point here... It's that violence, while understandable in this situation, is never the solution. It just creates more problems.

and the leading personel on the school probably thinks the same. I disagree though, you have to be tough on bullies (especially the ones like this). Kicking them from school won't help, suspension won't help, staying after class won't help. The bullied persons just have to stand up and let the bullies know that they're not the boss.
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 18:17:25
March 14 2011 18:15 GMT
#53
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.


There were at least three bullies. I think you missed that in the video. When there are multiple enemies, you take them down fast and hard, none of this punching and kicking nonsense.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 14 2011 18:16 GMT
#54
On March 15 2011 03:13 cascades wrote:
You don't go in sissy punching someone outnumbered. They gang up on you. You gotta show you mean business.

And when someone punches you, is it only acceptable to punch him back once? Some deluded notion of fairness. No it fucking isn't. Deck that idiot.


If they gang up on you then so be it, at least you don't risk killing a kid and having to deal with the consequences for the rest of your life.
The spice must flow
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 14 2011 18:16 GMT
#55
On March 15 2011 03:01 Almin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 02:58 Danjoh wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand your argument, you want him to beat the smaller kid up, wich he didn't, wich you think was too far?

Or are you implying that several punches to the kids face, maybe a few kicks to the chest would have been better, and less harmful?

I think a few punches in the face and chest wouldn't have hurt the kid at all, except his ego.

A body slam on the floor, a few degrees off, could've broken the kids neck.

So yeah, I think punching the smaller kid is a better option.

Even a few kicks to the chest, would've definitely been a lot less harmful then throwing the kid upside down on the floor, pretty damn close to head first on the pavement.


So you want that larger kid to stand there and take the hits just because he knows that he could hurt the smaller child? Yeah ok... That'll happen, I would have done the same thing... Actually I wouldn't have let it get to that point, those other kids have obviously been picking on Casey for a while. The fact that he got suspended is reasonable I suppose, any school has to take action when there are fights and that is standard. However, I would like to see the schools not punish the children that are being bullied just for a while, I guarantee that bullying would stop or at least slow down.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
March 14 2011 18:16 GMT
#56
i think some of us can relate to one of these two kids, but as adults i think we should be more worried about their health/future than say stuff like "that little prick got what he deserved." they're children, for pete's sake.
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
March 14 2011 18:17 GMT
#57
On March 15 2011 03:13 FreddYCooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.



I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!

I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.

Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.


In case you missed it the bullied kid was alone while the bully had several friends around, if casey had tried to start a fist fight he could have ended up being beaten by several opponents. Much better to do it the way he did


While i agree that the slam could have been life threatening, from a vs. multiple opponents perspective, it is always recommended to hurt one and hurt that one bad. It discourages the rest and increases survivability greatly. His actions arent completely justified, but in terms of protecting himself, i think he did the right thing.

Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 18:20:13
March 14 2011 18:17 GMT
#58
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.



I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!

I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.

Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.


umm.. too bad that situation would've been equal to:
if another man hit you, and you hit him back, but your thumb nail accidentally scrapes his eye, severely damaging it. self defense is self defense dude, the police don't consider theoretical or accidental injury, i've been through self defense cases before myself.


edit: although perhaps aus has different laws regarding self defense, i have no idea
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
March 14 2011 18:18 GMT
#59
In these situations, you do not stop and think "Hmm, wonder what will happen if I do this? Nahh, he might get harmed, better to do something tamer".

A victim of bullying has the right to do anything short of drawing a weapon against his bully. If the bully gets crippled for life, well, he will at least not bully anyone ever again. When someone is in your face like that, there is no self-control. There is no you, you simply react on instinct and you react as violently as you can.
If the bully get seriously injured or killed, it's his own or the schools fault, never the victims.
Almin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States583 Posts
March 14 2011 18:18 GMT
#60
On March 15 2011 03:13 FreddYCooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.

Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.

With great size, comes great responsibility.



I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!

I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.

Are you fucking serious?

How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.

The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.


In case you missed it the bullied kid was alone while the bully had several friends around, if casey had tried to start a fist fight he could have ended up being beaten by several opponents. Much better to do it the way he did



Several? As far as I could tell, the guy holding the camera, and the skinny kid who came to the pipsquakes help.

They would've ganged up on him either way.


Look at this scenario: A few degrees off, the kid breaks his neck. He's in a wheelchair for the rest of his life, because of some 6th grade bullshit.

Do you STILL think its acceptable for the fat kid to fight like that? No, not at all, should've just beat him down.

Would rather Casey beat the crap out of them, and get a few punches on him, than nearly killing someone by nearly throwing them head first on the pavement.
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