EPTThe Way I See it, if they can keep all remaining reactors from blowing up, the situation should Be sort of ok. Still, with at least 22 People getting treated for acute radiation illness Japan can consider themselves "lucky" that the wind hasn't changed direction (a us Navy Ship detected 7200 times higher than normal radiation 160km offshore. Tokyo is only 250 km from the broken down NPP iirc)
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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members. Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true. | ||
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mathemagician1986
Germany549 Posts
The Way I See it, if they can keep all remaining reactors from blowing up, the situation should Be sort of ok. Still, with at least 22 People getting treated for acute radiation illness Japan can consider themselves "lucky" that the wind hasn't changed direction (a us Navy Ship detected 7200 times higher than normal radiation 160km offshore. Tokyo is only 250 km from the broken down NPP iirc) | ||
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Japan514 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:44 Manifesto7 wrote: Canada has been on standby for some time, but as of yet has not been requested. Normally people get flag-blind and take offense (as comments on the CBC web page will show). However there is a massive logistical operation happening, and it is no use bringing in more people until you have a plan for them. I guess that makes sense. Still seems surprising that they wouldn't have a use for Canada though, considering this is the kind of thing Canada's army has most experience with. | ||
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Japan514 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:50 Alshahin wrote: The core of reactor 2 is now partially exposed, according to BBC according to unmentioned local media. Manifesto7, stop them being wrong. That will help. I will continue to be aggressive. Facts are on my side. Seriously, stop, or at least be more tasteful. The only thing worse than a nuclear meltdown right now is a panic. | ||
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Kadrix
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Alshahin
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:42 Alshahin wrote: You make it sound as if the original coolant water dried up or magically disappeared rather than that the coolant system failed. If you can't understand the seriousness of the likelihood of a meltdown being determined by improvised efforts to pump in seawater, you are lost. Look, all I am saying that these reactors are at risk. No system is immune to failure. Yet here we have people who somehow believe people have a delusional fear of nuclear energy and feel they need to argue against that by saying that this can't and won't go wrong. We don't know yet. A week ago you could have argued that nuclear energy is safe. You don't do that while we are in a INES 4 or 5 incident. Not to mention that the Japanese government was warned these reactors were not safe. They were lucky that the epicenter of this quake wasn't closer to the reactor itself. There is still a risk of it going very wrong. It is not theoretically impossible and not completely improbable either, but no one knows for sure. Show some humility. Your saying the act of pumping in sea water is an improvised effort? Such scenario is already thought of, that is why plants are built around big body of water. We aren't saying nuclear energy can't go wrong. We are just pointing out with the current scenario, you're just fear mongering. Edit: Nuclear power is such a hot topic right now, people talks about it non stop on radio. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27151 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:50 Alshahin wrote: The core of reactor 2 is now partially exposed, according to BBC according to unmentioned local media. Manifesto7, stop them being wrong. That will help. I will continue to be aggressive. Facts are on my side. The fact of the matter is that you are shitting up a thread that is a lot more important for me than it is for you. Stop being a fucking asshole, or get out. Clear enough for you? | ||
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Kr1pos
Norway67 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:51 mathemagician1986 wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12729138 The Way I See it, if they can keep all remaining reactors from blowing up, the situation should Be sort of ok. Still, with at least 22 People getting treated for acute radiation illness Japan can consider themselves "lucky" that the wind hasn't changed direction (a us Navy Ship detected 7200 times higher than normal radiation 160km offshore. Tokyo is only 250 km from the broken down NPP iirc) You: "acute radiation illness", article: "undergoing treatment for radiation exposure". You: "7200 times higher than normal", article: "low-level radiation". | ||
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Alshahin
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On March 14 2011 18:55 Manifesto7 wrote: The fact of the matter is that you are shitting up a thread that is a lot more important for me than it is for you. Stop being a fucking asshole, or get out. Clear enough for you? Actually, I am one of the few people providing worthy information while others attack me. Read the thread before criticizing me. I won't criticize you without reading your posts either. Show me the same courtesy. As for shitting up a thread, you calling me out has done exactly that and you have only yourself to blame. You should have taken it to PMs. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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mathemagician1986
Germany549 Posts
On March 14 2011 18:56 Kr1pos wrote: You: "acute radiation illness", article: "undergoing treatment for radiation exposure". You: "7200 times higher than normal", article: "low-level radiation". I read more than One source about this matter. I translated those from a german News Site, but As this is an english speaking Forum I See no point in linking to them. Thanks for your Input though, really helpful. | ||
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Kr1pos
Norway67 Posts
On March 14 2011 19:00 mathemagician1986 wrote: I read more than One source about this matter. I translated those from a german News Site, but As this is an english speaking Forum I See no point in linking to them. Thanks for your Input though, really helpful. My point is, if you're using other sources you should post them as well -- not give a BBC-link which doesn't actually back up what you're saying. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 14 2011 19:00 mathemagician1986 wrote: I read more than One source about this matter. I translated those from a german News Site, but As this is an english speaking Forum I See no point in linking to them. Thanks for your Input though, really helpful. yeah german newspost said yesterday supergau is already happening, so better don't read those stuff  I guess bbc and nhk is a good source for those who are only able to speak english. | ||
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mathemagician1986
Germany549 Posts
On March 14 2011 19:03 Kr1pos wrote: My point is, if you're using other sources you should post them as well -- not give a BBC-link which doesn't actually back up what you're saying. Why Not just say that instead of implying I'm too stupid to Read?:flowers: The Part about the radiation Level can Be Found here http://m.spiegel.de/article.do?id=750629 The Part about radiation sickness here http://m.spiegel.de/article.do?id=750714 | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/14/idINIndia-55559020110314 (English) http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=71053 (English) http://www.nownews.com/2011/03/14/91-2696490.htm (Chinese) Edit: English source added | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On March 14 2011 19:06 Toadesstern wrote: yeah german newspost said yesterday supergau is already happening, so better don't read those stuff I guess bbc and nhk is a good source for those who are only able to speak english. What? What newspost are you reading? bild? The german news might report more drastically than the rest (or at least than us/japan), but none reliable news reported a super-gau. (if I'm wrong provide a link) But please stop making the german news worse than it is. | ||
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elscuba
Japan34 Posts
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/videonews-com-live ( English) | ||
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fanta[Rn]
Japan2465 Posts
-Reuters Not the best news, but might not even matter | ||
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elscuba
Japan34 Posts
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Japan514 Posts
On March 14 2011 19:54 fanta[Rn] wrote: Latest on wind behaviour: the wind direction is expected to change at around 6 p.m. Tuesday local time, and instead of blowing south will blow inland, but at a slow speed. -Reuters Not the best news, but might not even matter I'm only half serious, but ignoring the difficulty of doing so in a timely matter, I wonder if it's at all possible to build a huge fan or array of fans to blow air offshore. That aside, NHK is saying there's a chance that the #2 rods are completely exposed... | ||
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Grettin
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On March 14 2011 20:04 elscuba wrote: At Fukushima1 no2 , rods all exposed.... TV said. god Not good, not good. I hope the engineers get the hell out of there before something like exploding happens. Last time 17 injured. | ||
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