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On October 26 2004 21:29 JoeUser wrote:
Yea, I heard about that, SC for TI. Somebody told me about it, but I didn't believe it untill now. It must be hard as hell to micro using the arrow keys =) It's definately going onto my calc =p
Anyway, ahh! Getting such mixed messages! Anybody who has had both want to tell me what is better?
Everybody's a fan of the 89 though. I had the opportunity to get a ti-89 last year, but I convinced my mom that the 83+ would be fine. I'm kicking myself about now...
I own every single TI calculator series from TI-83 to TI-92
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Holy fuck all of you are so fucking ignorant.
Ti 86 has a faster processor.
More memory.
Better resolution.
So go ahead and keep your 83(+)... while I'm happily spotting larger and faster graphs, editing programs, editing graphs, draw funny stuff, play better games, ... on my Ti86.
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All I need is somebody to help me find fuckin how to find derivative of a function on my calculator. I have 86
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There I study we arent allowed to use any calculators you can program on. Ie 83ti isnt allowed. Most of the times we arent allowed to use any calculator.
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Math courses in college shouldn't allow calculators. If you need that stuff you will write your OWN programs in Matlab, maple or mathematica (an awesome program). Upper level math courses involve proofs and many of them... You can't do them on a calculator.
As far as physics courses goes, yes.... you need a claculator. But I was a physics major, and I only had an 83. You should learn to use the computer programs that your college endorses.
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86 has a better processor and more memory if i recall it correctly so trading might not be a bad idea. (I have TI-86 =)
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What about the T82? I just bought one cause I couldnt afford anything else  Oh and can it run the starcraft game? 
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It can't. I've never seen an 82 with any games, much less mirageOS or Ion or any of the programs needed to play graphic games.
Alot of you are saying that TI-86 is worse than 83+. Why? Is it just the menu system, or is it something else.
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To people saying TI-86 has a better processor, you're wrong. 86 has a 6MHz ZiLOG, whereas 83+ has 8MHz ZiLOG running at 6MHz, so actually 83+ has the better processor (though they're equal in speed unless you tweak the 83+ proc to the maximum clock speed).
86 has 96K ram whereas 83+ has only 24K, but 83+ has an additional 160K Flash ROM which makes it possible to store large amounts of programs and games (it works so that you keep a certain amount of programs in RAM, and the rest in ROM. Whenever you need to use a program in the ROM, you just make room in the RAM by moving something to the ROM).
You people are forgetting that the 83+ is newer than 86. So, like i said, don't make the trade.
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Ti 89 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
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On October 27 2004 05:52 UniversalMoron wrote:
To people saying TI-86 has a better processor, you're wrong. 86 has a 6MHz ZiLOG, whereas 83+ has 8MHz ZiLOG running at 6MHz, so actually 83+ has the better processor (though they're equal in speed unless you tweak the 83+ proc to the maximum clock speed).
86 has 96K ram whereas 83+ has only 24K, but 83+ has an additional 160K Flash ROM which makes it possible to store large amounts of programs and games (it works so that you keep a certain amount of programs in RAM, and the rest in ROM. Whenever you need to use a program in the ROM, you just make room in the RAM by moving something to the ROM).
You people are forgetting that the 83+ is newer than 86. So, like i said, don't make the trade.
Ermm no, first of all, the Flash Rom only allows you to store downloaded apps, that means you can't store any of your own stuff on it.
Second of all, the 83+ runs at 6MHz, not 8, so...
Third, the 86 supports all Calculus funtion whereas the 83+ is very limited, heck, it can't even do derivitive, find slope, etc... go here for more information.. http://education.ti.com/downloads/pdf/us/graphing.pdf
Fourth, the 86 has a higher resolution, how much higher you say? Think 33% higher resolution.
Fifth, the 86 supports Basic Language Programming whereas you can only do ASM with the 83+, and with a measly 24K, you can store SOOOOOOOO MUCH code with it(83+).
Sixth, the 86 allows you to custom draw and capture a graph as a file, does the 83+ let you do the same thing?
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Ya I had a TI-83+ as well with a cable. Nothing fancy imo, get the one with the largest number :p
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Hmm at my college they told me 89s and the 92s are not allowed on any exam or quiz and that 83 and 86s are the best options for you.
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On October 27 2004 11:25 Sky101 wrote: Ermm no, first of all, the Flash Rom only allows you to store downloaded apps, that means you can't store any of your own stuff on it. Second of all, the 83+ runs at 6MHz, not 8, so... Third, the 86 supports all Calculus funtion whereas the 83+ is very limited, heck, it can't even do derivitive, find slope, etc... go here for more information.. http://education.ti.com/downloads/pdf/us/graphing.pdfFourth, the 86 has a higher resolution, how much higher you say? Think 33% higher resolution. Fifth, the 86 supports Basic Language Programming whereas you can only do ASM with the 83+, and with a measly 24K, you can store SOOOOOOOO MUCH code with it(83+). Sixth, the 86 allows you to custom draw and capture a graph as a file, does the 83+ let you do the same thing?
First, i have a 83+ and i know exactly how the Flash ROM works. You can always free more RAM for the apps by moving stuff to the ROM. It works like a hard-drive, very convenient.
Second, if you read what i said again, i DID say 83+ runs at 6MHz, but the processor is capable of 8MHz while 86 is maximum 6 -> 83+ processor has better potential -> 83+ processor is better.
This was a reply to all the people sayinng 86 has a better processor.
Third, you must be technically challenged if you cant find the derivatives and integrals from 83+. Read the manual and try again, thanks.
Fourth, you CAN program Basic with 83+. I don't know where you get your "information" from but its so incorrect.
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I've got an 83+ silver and it works like a charm, my hs told me to get a 83, and thats what I got. Didn't wanna bother with learning all that other extra crap. Although, one of my friends just got a TI-89 titanium, it looks so sexy lol.
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Ok I give, you keep your 83+, I'll keep my 86, we're all happy.
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if you people need calculators to find derivatives and slopes i feel bad for you anyway..those are the two easiest things to do 
edit: take that back. ive tought myself derivatives but i cant for the life of me get the derivative of a point on the upward curve of a negative parabola=(
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WHAT? WTF SC for calculators?! Tl86 was it?
/brb walmart
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