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rotinegg
United States1719 Posts
On January 22 2011 01:59 mikeymoo wrote: It's more or less random, isn't it? At least that's all I can recall from statistical mechanics. yea it could happen tomorrow, or a thousand years from tomorrow | ||
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
On January 22 2011 02:00 rotinegg wrote: yea it could happen tomorrow, or a thousand years from tomorrow The phases leading up to a supernova in current models are well defined: If we could actually look into the star, we would most likely have no problem to pin down the date of the actual explosion down to a small timeframe. The problem is, that the actual information we get from stars other than the sun is very limited. Betelgeuze is one of the few stars that can actually be resolved by modern instruments. Still, what you can see is only the star's surface, and it can take a long time until the developments in the core actually influence the surface of the star. | ||
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The_Piper42
United States426 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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lololol
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On January 22 2011 00:29 Mannequin wrote: Jesus christ, its like the fucking talking wikipedia over here. If you get proven wrong, does your head collapse on itself? User was temp banned for this post. Oh come on, Empyrean was right (and intelligent) in everything he said up to that point and then someone calls him out on a common sense error and then ALSO proceeds to tell him what the Sun is? He didn't get proven wrong, the guy was splitting hairs for the sake of argument unrelated to the topic at hand. On-topic, it is disheartening to see more of this ridiculous astronomy/astrology based journalism lately that is completely baseless and exaggerated by shit reporters. On the other hand, it's always great to see people that know what's actually up spreading the wealth. I'm glad most people on here are ready to ask questions and clarify things about subjects that might be over their heads, albeit still interesting to them. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On January 21 2011 17:36 Haemonculus wrote: Woah. What do you think a few weeks of no darkness will do to the environment? That's got to screw with your circadian rhythm... I wonder if any animals or plants would get screwed up by that? Like nocturnal hunters/scavengers might be in trouble, o.o; The earth already experiences phases of 24 hour daylight, and 24 hour darkness for weeks on end way up in the northwest territories. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
 I agree with him though. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32027 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On January 21 2011 17:28 jstar wrote: I would love to see a super nova, and then suddenly becoming dark again knowing that a black hole is formed. If it ends up being a super massive black hole, we're screwed right? a super massive black hole cant form from a star, they form over millions of years as galaxies form. the heaviest objects naturally move to the center and slowly smaller blackholes and lage stars come together, the black holes merge and gobble up everything nearby until they become super massive. Also when they talk about it going supernova in 2012, they mean that we would observe it then and it happened a long time ago. It could have already gone supernova a thousand years ago (its about 1300 light years away) and we wouldn't have a clue until the light reaches us. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On January 22 2011 02:27 lololol wrote: 2012 bullshit again lol. It actually may not happen even by the year 1002012. It won't last another 100,000 years. Its in the final phase of its life, it will go supermova (from out point of view) very soon. Maximum within a few thousand years, more likely very very soon. | ||
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Babaganoush
United States626 Posts
In fact, a neutrino shower could be beneficial to Earth. According to Carter this "star stuff" makes up the universe. "It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium..... I'd hate to tell the guys at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176204 that, lol. That being said, a lot of this stuff is speculation considering that no one knows exactly when this sun will supernova or its effects on Earth lightyears away from us. | ||
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Babaganoush
United States626 Posts
In fact, a neutrino shower could be beneficial to Earth. According to Carter this "star stuff" makes up the universe. "It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium..... I'd hate to tell the guys at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176204 that, lol. That being said, a lot of this stuff is speculation considering that no one knows exactly when this sun will supernova or its effects on Earth lightyears away from us.[/QUOTE] On January 22 2011 03:40 eXigent. wrote: The earth already experiences phases of 24 hour daylight, and 24 hour darkness for weeks on end way up in the northwest territories. Yes I find that interesting too. While the planet does have that 24 hour daylight in the areas closer to the polar regions, animals anywhere else, such as closer to the equator will probably not be used to this sort of thing... | ||
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
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TymerA
Netherlands759 Posts
The first thing that came to my mind when i read the title was that the sun would somehow seperate its mass. God im dumb. | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
On January 22 2011 03:40 goiflin wrote: Technically, since betelgeuse is estimated to be (650?) light years away, this would all be past tense. It would have had to already go supernova in 1362 for us to see it in 2012. Holy shit, didnt even think about this... | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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politik
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Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
Whoever put this article up probably only saw the words "Supernova, second sun, explosion and scientist" and boom, we have a story. I mean it does sound like some exiting shit. | ||
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