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On January 19 2015 15:17 Kenshin_915 wrote:Caved and bought a Seiko SARB033. It was fucking love at first sight... Will post wrist shots when it arrives. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j4RneUf.jpg) Isn't that an scvs003 ? I have the exact same one.
hmm, i guess the bracelet isn't the same, jubilee for the scvs003 vs oyster for the sarb033 :o
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On January 20 2015 00:20 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 15:20 lichter wrote:On January 19 2015 13:29 ShadeR wrote:solsken's response was as polite as they get. Both of the watches you linked look like ass. Besides why spend $200 when for half that you can get this with the same functionality. + Show Spoiler + this combines basically everything i don't like in watches 1. panerai 2. DLC/PVC coating 3. skeleton 4. pointless crown guard 5. badly applied lume 6. probably 47mm 7. probably fake leather band i'm actually impressed in a way i'm pretty undecided about panerai, it's such a crazy watch i can actually see its appeal. rolex explorer I next if I buy another watch before I'm 30. Otherwise probably a dress watch like jlc reverso :D
i love my reverso and don't regret it one bit, but it's the kind of watch that doesn't wow you or blow you off your feet at first. but whenever i pop it out off my cuff to check the time whenever i'm in a suit, it just perfectly peeks out of the sleeve every time, and i remember why i love it so much.
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This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative 
Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons.
Any suggestions?
Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price Same goes for cars btw.
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As I said earlier in this thread I really Love the sarb065 for a dress watch. I will atleast get one as soon as I find myself with extra money
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On January 20 2015 01:17 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 15:17 Kenshin_915 wrote:Caved and bought a Seiko SARB033. It was fucking love at first sight... Will post wrist shots when it arrives. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j4RneUf.jpg) Isn't that an scvs003 ? I have the exact same one. hmm, i guess the bracelet isn't the same, jubilee for the scvs003 vs oyster for the sarb033 :o
yeah wtf I just googled it and it looks identical? Maybe just the bracelets are different im not sure. The scvs also says "diashock" on the dial so there's that too.
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On January 20 2015 00:14 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 15:17 Kenshin_915 wrote:Caved and bought a Seiko SARB033. It was fucking love at first sight... Will post wrist shots when it arrives. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j4RneUf.jpg) check out seiko brightz SDGM003 (001 for white dial) It's some pretty good stuff, really going after GS in terms of looks imo edit: ah, oops, didn't read that you've already bought it, sarb is such a classic, congrats!
I'll look at it anyways, and thx man . I really love Japanese watches. A lot.
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On January 20 2015 03:18 _fool wrote:This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative  Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons. Any suggestions? Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price  Same goes for cars btw.
how much for '1 step up', easy if you could give us a budget
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On January 20 2015 14:23 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 03:18 _fool wrote:This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative  Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons. Any suggestions? Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price  Same goes for cars btw. how much for '1 step up', easy if you could give us a budget 
Probably between 300 and 500 euro's? Less and it wouldn't feel like a step up. More and my wife would get upset Also, I have kids around with zero respect for delicate things, that's another reason to stay on the modest side of things.
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On January 20 2015 16:26 _fool wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 14:23 Cambium wrote:On January 20 2015 03:18 _fool wrote:This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative  Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons. Any suggestions? Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price  Same goes for cars btw. how much for '1 step up', easy if you could give us a budget  Probably between 300 and 500 euro's? Less and it wouldn't feel like a step up. More and my wife would get upset  Also, I have kids around with zero respect for delicate things, that's another reason to stay on the modest side of things.
I'm not sure if 500 could fetch you a mido, I always liked how those looked 
I think mido is just slightly up from tissot on the swatch ladder, so maybe you can find something interesting there
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On January 20 2015 23:34 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 16:26 _fool wrote:On January 20 2015 14:23 Cambium wrote:On January 20 2015 03:18 _fool wrote:This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative  Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons. Any suggestions? Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price  Same goes for cars btw. how much for '1 step up', easy if you could give us a budget  Probably between 300 and 500 euro's? Less and it wouldn't feel like a step up. More and my wife would get upset  Also, I have kids around with zero respect for delicate things, that's another reason to stay on the modest side of things. I'm not sure if 500 could fetch you a mido, I always liked how those looked  I think mido is just slightly up from tissot on the swatch ladder, so maybe you can find something interesting there
Hm, interesting! I knew there was the Swatch group (hogging all the ETA movements) but I never realized that there was a hierarchy within that group. What does Mido do that puts them above Tissot?
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Not familiar with Mido in particular, but Swatch Group is a massive collection of brands, with many subsidiaries operating completely independently of each other and free to distinguish and position themselves. You got the basic plastic Swatches, to the Hamilton and Tissots, all the way up to Omega, Blancpain, and Glasshutte, all under the "Swatch Group" corporation. The ETA movements are only present in the low/mid range watches.
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On January 21 2015 06:01 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Not familiar with Mido in particular, but Swatch Group is a massive collection of brands, with many subsidiaries operating completely independently of each other and free to distinguish and position themselves. You got the basic plastic Swatches, to the Hamilton and Tissots, all the way up to Omega, Blancpain, and Glasshutte, all under the "Swatch Group" corporation. The ETA movements are only present in the low/mid range watches.
Are the plastic Swatches any good? I'm super skeptical of a plastic watch but I really like the Seahawks colored one. I mean for it's price point btw, I know it's a cheap watch 
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On January 21 2015 02:14 _fool wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:34 Cambium wrote:On January 20 2015 16:26 _fool wrote:On January 20 2015 14:23 Cambium wrote:On January 20 2015 03:18 _fool wrote:This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative  Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons. Any suggestions? Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price  Same goes for cars btw. how much for '1 step up', easy if you could give us a budget  Probably between 300 and 500 euro's? Less and it wouldn't feel like a step up. More and my wife would get upset  Also, I have kids around with zero respect for delicate things, that's another reason to stay on the modest side of things. I'm not sure if 500 could fetch you a mido, I always liked how those looked  I think mido is just slightly up from tissot on the swatch ladder, so maybe you can find something interesting there Hm, interesting! I knew there was the Swatch group (hogging all the ETA movements) but I never realized that there was a hierarchy within that group. What does Mido do that puts them above Tissot?
That's hard to answer, mostly branding, advertisement and price point. It's all very arbitrary anyway. Probably slightly better construction and finish as well.
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Mido and Certina might use elabore grade movements. Not sure though.
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On January 21 2015 02:14 _fool wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 23:34 Cambium wrote:On January 20 2015 16:26 _fool wrote:On January 20 2015 14:23 Cambium wrote:On January 20 2015 03:18 _fool wrote:This thread turned me on to watches years ago. I've only bought a few (all auto's, all affordable, my daily beater is a skx007, which I feel is worth every penny) and I spend a significant amount of time every week, browsing for a new infatuation. Whenever I find something I really like, I dwell on it until I find a drawback. Then I let go, I mourn, and I start looking for an alternative  Currently I'm considering going 1 step up in price range, going from 21k bph movements to 28k bph. That means eta 2824, miyota 9015, etc become available. I like my divers, but a nice dresswatch is something I lack, so I'm open to suggestions in both categories. Watches I like: the Precista 82, the Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage Military, the lovely Aevig Huldra (all divers) the Tissot Visodate, and a few Hamiltons. Any suggestions? Also: @the guy that preferred a cheap watch AND a muscle car over a (very) pricy watch: watch threads should be about watches, not money or status. If the owner is comfortable with what he payed for his timepiece, then it was a good price  Same goes for cars btw. how much for '1 step up', easy if you could give us a budget  Probably between 300 and 500 euro's? Less and it wouldn't feel like a step up. More and my wife would get upset  Also, I have kids around with zero respect for delicate things, that's another reason to stay on the modest side of things. I'm not sure if 500 could fetch you a mido, I always liked how those looked  I think mido is just slightly up from tissot on the swatch ladder, so maybe you can find something interesting there Hm, interesting! I knew there was the Swatch group (hogging all the ETA movements) but I never realized that there was a hierarchy within that group. What does Mido do that puts them above Tissot?
Complicated answer. Much easier if you find a particular model and compare it with another... particular model.  In general, Mido are at a higher price range, which means better materials and finishing. Movements may not always be better, might even be identical in some models. For example, I really like the Tissot Le Locle because it sort-of reminds me of the Simplicity which I will never own. At some points during the year, it's cheaper to buy some models from Mido than it is to get the LeLocle (at least here in Romania). The new LeLocle now has the 2825 movement, while the lower-end Midos are based on standard 2824 (not elabore). Also, elabore is not the best you can get out of a 2824. There's also the chronometer version, and I think also something in between elabore and chronometer.
Anyway, the higher the price, the more work they put into the movement (usually). For example Hamilton has some in-house movements that have been given higher autonomy (up to 80hrs) and better shock protection on the Incabloc. BUT, these are still based on the good ol' ETA: http://new.hamilton-uni.com/en/hamiltonCalibers And this is true for a LOT of other brands. Even though they make their own adjustments, they are usually based on some form of the ETA movement. This is not to say that the adjustments themselves are not worth the price or whatnot, just that there are few brands that make their own in-house movements. Rolex is one of them, if I'm not mistaken.
And not sure if it matters, but I have a Steinheart Ocean 1 DLC and I love it. It's very, very well made for the price. The attention to detail is impressive for this price point, and definitely over most Tissots that I've seen (mostly the sporty models, might be worse than the higher-end models). I would also look into the Hamilton Jazzmaster series.
Edit: Found this gem: "Keeping the tradition going though is the COSC chronometer designation, a mark of stringent accuracy under duress - and in 2012, Tissot's Le Locle Chronometre was pronounced by the Concours International de Chronometrie to be the most accurate mechanical watch of the year." - The Chronometre version is considerably more expensive than the standard LeLocle, but just another example as to how you can find various movements even on the same model of watch, and just going by brand is not enough.
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Well shit, at first I scoffed at the Swiss Franc to Euro exchange rate debacle, but now that I actually read more about it it's become clear that buying now makes waaaay more sense than buying in 2 years time like I planned. An $8,000 watch now will cost ~$12,000 in 2 years (modest estimates of 10% increase from CHF, and 15% increases over the next two years). That means I'd have to find an investment with a 22% return just to ensure I don't lose money on opportunity cost.
So I might be forced to buy sooner than I expected.
After 2 years, time to browse again.
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On January 23 2015 21:19 lichter wrote: Well shit, at first I scoffed at the Swiss Franc to Euro exchange rate debacle, but now that I actually read more about it it's become clear that buying now makes waaaay more sense than buying in 2 years time like I planned. An $8,000 watch now will cost ~$12,000 in 2 years (modest estimates of 10% increase from CHF, and 15% increases over the next two years). That means I'd have to find an investment with a 22% return just to ensure I don't lose money on opportunity cost.
So I might be forced to buy sooner than I expected.
After 2 years, time to browse again. Or you don't buy a swiss watch
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On January 23 2015 22:14 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2015 21:19 lichter wrote: Well shit, at first I scoffed at the Swiss Franc to Euro exchange rate debacle, but now that I actually read more about it it's become clear that buying now makes waaaay more sense than buying in 2 years time like I planned. An $8,000 watch now will cost ~$12,000 in 2 years (modest estimates of 10% increase from CHF, and 15% increases over the next two years). That means I'd have to find an investment with a 22% return just to ensure I don't lose money on opportunity cost.
So I might be forced to buy sooner than I expected.
After 2 years, time to browse again. Or you don't buy a swiss watch  heresy
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That sounds like an easy solution until you consider that a lot of the non-Swiss manufactures are owned by Swiss companies. Glashutte Original will likely raise prices even though they are "German". And anyway I could just buy the non-Swiss next time :p
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Lichter, which ones are you considering this time around then?
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