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On January 18 2015 20:32 solsken wrote:
You usually make a skeleton watch to show off a beutiful movement. Problem is that a 200$ watch rarely have much to show off. But sure you can probably raise an eyebrow or two from people that don't know watches with a cheap one.
I already have several more standard looking watches.
I'd say somewhere around 90% of people I'll run into wouldn't even have a clue about the difference between a beautiful movement or the ugliest movement available.
Considering how many people waste money on brand name crap (watches and otherwise) something different, functional, and cool looking is all I'm going for.
You have some examples of the scale of beauty in movements so I can at least imagine what you are getting at? If you are going to suggest one should spend significantly more, I'd at least like to see what you are suggesting I would be missing by getting a less expensive watch.
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No no, I'm not saying that you should spend any more than you want or can.
My point was that skeleton watches mainly came into existence to show off highly ornamented and artistic inhouse movements by the haute horologie brands.
As normally happen the low price segments follows that trend and start making skeleton watches that show a somewhat polished cheap movement that's really quite not anything impressive in terms of engineering or artistry.
That said I can see the allure of a watch that shows the inner workings of a watch, and you will get people noticing it that normally know nothing about watches. Meanwhile the people that do know watches will probably tell you it's a nice watch but think "why is that watch showing off something that's unremarkable"
This is a fairly expensive skeleton watch, but far from the highest end anyway.
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On January 19 2015 03:37 solsken wrote:No no, I'm not saying that you should spend any more than you want or can. My point was that skeleton watches mainly came into existence to show off highly ornamented and artistic inhouse movements by the haute horologie brands. As normally happen the low price segments follows that trend and start making skeleton watches that show a somewhat polished cheap movement that's really quite not anything impressive in terms of engineering or artistry. That said I can see the allure of a watch that shows the inner workings of a watch, and you will get people noticing it that normally know nothing about watches. Meanwhile the people that do know watches will probably tell you it's a nice watch but think "why is that watch showing off something that's unremarkable"This is a fairly expensive skeleton watch, but far from the highest end anyway. + Show Spoiler +
Yeah I wouldn't want to associate with people who thought something like that anyway. Not that they would have much interest in me either. I know all of a handful of families in my life that could even consider a purchase like the watch you showed and they are all universally snobby jerks.
If I had $50-60k to blow I still wouldn't be ridiculous enough to buy a watch like that.
I'd sooner get this
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and this
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Which would still be cheaper than this.
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I mean that watch is cool looking but it's just not worth ~350x more than my preferred options, to me anyway. I would need to be terribly selfish, self absorbed, and ridiculously wealthy to even consider spending more than $50k for a watch that practically has the same functionality as the $200 dollar options.
Hell it only has a 2-5 year warranty while even the Kenneth Cole watch offers a lifetime warranty. $50k cant even buy you a lifetime warranty?!?
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You're discussing a luxury good, it's hardly a rational logical purchase.
Don't need to get all aggressive on people who choose to spend their money that way.
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On January 19 2015 08:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
You're discussing a luxury good, it's hardly a rational logical purchase.
Don't need to get all aggressive on people who choose to spend their money that way.
I just don't see what the point of responding the way he did in the first place was. I was looking for advice or suggestions that would be helpful. Not someone to say that more basic watch internals are nothing special to look at compared to a $50,000 dollar watch.
It came off condescending as crap saying it might raise ignorant people's eyebrows but anyone who knows watches will think it's silly. I just had to make the point that people who think that suggesting that a $200 watch isn't remarkable enough compared to a $50,000 watch obviously live in a completely different world than I do. If anyone else had advice along those lines they could save time and keep it to themselves.
If someone had something to show me at like $300-$1000 maybe, but if the idea is anything under 50k is just going to get snide thoughts from people, I couldn't care less about people like that.
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Well, it's you that is going to wear the watch so do whatever is fine for you. I just gave My opinion about cheap skeleton watches. I would say that it's comparable to putting a Window on the hood of your Ford Mondeo to see the engine.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
90% of skeleton watches are ugly anyway regardless of price. it's a novelty that i don't think is attractive at all
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I agree fully, but taste is subjective and mine is heavily favored more classic and minimalistic while others seem to think Richard Milles are the bee's knees.
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Yeah I have plenty of more simple watches like this Skagen. (Lightweight titanium and simple)
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I would say it would be more like putting a window on a Honda with non-power aesthetic upgrades. If you want to go with an implicitly tacky reference.
But again I'd rather put the "window" on the hood of a Viper/Corvette/M3/etc... and the cheap watch. Rather than blow (my opinion) money on something only a tiny group of people would even have the required knowledge to appreciate beyond looking neat (which could be achieved for far less $).
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Have you considered an open heart rather than a skeleton though? I find it slightly more tasteful, though you may run into people mistaking it for a tourbillon.
Some examples:
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the frederique constant and the hamilton are above your budget, but the hamilton isn't that far off. it's a look to consider as an alternative to a full skeleton
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On January 19 2015 11:44 lichter wrote:Have you considered an open heart rather than a skeleton though? I find it slightly more tasteful, though you may run into people mistaking it for a tourbillon. Some examples: + Show Spoiler +the frederique constant and the hamilton are above your budget, but the hamilton isn't that far off. it's a look to consider as an alternative to a full skeleton
Thank you for the suggestion. I was considering something like that but hadn't seen any that appealed to me aesthetically.
Each of those watches has an element that appeals to me but none of them combine them to my personal satisfaction.
For instance if the Armani watch had the style of markers from the Seiko placed around the edge, (and different colors) that's something I could be convinced would be worth a little extra for myself.
Gives me something else too look at though.
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solsken's response was as polite as they get. Both of the watches you linked look like ass. Besides why spend $200 when for half that you can get this with the same functionality.
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On January 19 2015 13:29 ShadeR wrote:solsken's response was as polite as they get. Both of the watches you linked look like ass. Besides why spend $200 when for half that you can get this with the same functionality. + Show Spoiler +
Obviously we have dramatically different preferences.
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Caved and bought a Seiko SARB033. It was fucking love at first sight... Will post wrist shots when it arrives.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 19 2015 13:29 ShadeR wrote:solsken's response was as polite as they get. Both of the watches you linked look like ass. Besides why spend $200 when for half that you can get this with the same functionality. + Show Spoiler +
this combines basically everything i don't like in watches
1. panerai
2. DLC/PVC coating
3. skeleton
4. pointless crown guard
5. badly applied lume
6. probably 47mm
7. probably fake leather band
i'm actually impressed in a way
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They probably do a Hublot that'll impress you just as much lol.
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GreenHorizons got really angry really fast.
I don't see how you don't understand that people have different tastes. You think it's snobby to buy a 50k watch, I think buying a Dodge Viper is a really, really bad idea. It has literally nothing going for it other than looks. It's getting less bhp from a 8l engine than a supercharged subaru is getting from a 2l engine. What a joke of a vehicle.
And even though that's my opinion, I would still not call people who get Vipers stupid or snobby or etc. Even though you could get a LOT more functionality for that money from other cars (you know, ones that can actually go around corners at speed if you need them to).
It's the same thing with watches. I know people who are very passionate about watches and don't care about cars at all (just going on the same example, since you brought it up). They are people with millions in the bank who drive a honda civic, and are wearing watches that cost a lot more than their car. And the funny thing is, 99% of the people who would see those watches would not even realize it.
So how is it snobbish to buy a watch that basically only you know is worth $50k? It's far more cheesy to get an expensive car, or bike, or clothes, or "bling" than it is to buy something like that Blancpain, because it's clear that you're not doing it to be "ridiculous", but instead, it's your passion.
I wouldn't normally bother to comment on some silly argument like this but I thought that solsken was really polite in his reply and you jumped to the wrong ideas in a heartbeat.
Anyway, a tasteful, cheap, and good quality skeleton watch is the Swatch Irony Body & Soul. Not sure if it fits your tastes because it doesn't have any kind of highlights, but this is a watch that's actually worth the money (in terms of movement and build, materials, etc.). So the value/money ratio is much higher than the ones you showed.
http://cdn.watchshop.com/profiler/thumb_cache/additional/47283_v_1334676510.jpg
http://store.swatch.com/yas100g-body-soul.html
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On January 19 2015 15:17 Kenshin_915 wrote:Caved and bought a Seiko SARB033. It was fucking love at first sight... Will post wrist shots when it arrives.
check out seiko brightz SDGM003 (001 for white dial)
It's some pretty good stuff, really going after GS in terms of looks imo
edit: ah, oops, didn't read that you've already bought it, sarb is such a classic, congrats!
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On January 19 2015 15:20 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 13:29 ShadeR wrote:solsken's response was as polite as they get. Both of the watches you linked look like ass. Besides why spend $200 when for half that you can get this with the same functionality. + Show Spoiler + this combines basically everything i don't like in watches 1. panerai 2. DLC/PVC coating 3. skeleton 4. pointless crown guard 5. badly applied lume 6. probably 47mm 7. probably fake leather band i'm actually impressed in a way
i'm pretty undecided about panerai, it's such a crazy watch i can actually see its appeal.
rolex explorer I next if I buy another watch before I'm 30. Otherwise probably a dress watch like jlc reverso :D
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I don't like the regular panerais, though I've seen some nice black ones. Also just last week I saw a steel panerai on a steel bracelet, and that really looked much better than the gazillion ones on a brown leather strap.
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